Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple May Be Working on 8K Display and New High-End Mac Mini
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
If it costs an extra $2K per monitor, it'd better be noticeable.
My last several monitors have all cost around $3K and I have gotten excellent results from them, a few more pixels would not have made any difference from my standpoint, but if you feel it's worthwhile, feel free to shell out the cash.
Laser printers, even the best ones, are for presentations or proofing, not final output.
In that recent interview with Apple, the question was asked about the Mac Mini. Although Phil said the Mac Mini is "important" (for how long?) he spent a lot more time expounding on the importance of having and adhering to Steve Jobs' matrix of four products... to the point that it is a core belief at Apple.
That doesn't bode so well for the mini, especially since he made a point of bringing up a FOUR product strategy.
I think the Mac Mini as we know it will eventually end up being toast, and the new new Mac Pro will be something none of us could have ever imagined.
That doesn't bode so well for the mini, especially since he made a point of bringing up a FOUR product strategy.
I think the Mac Mini as we know it will eventually end up being toast, and the new new Mac Pro will be something none of us could have ever imagined.
mac mini pro
Your post evoked a thought: it's interesting to me that Apple has been able to sell a relatively high-end smart phone that has had mass appeal, but largely the opposite it true when it comes to their computer line up. Yes, I know it has a lot to do with the fact that Windows conquered a lot of market territory during the 90's while Mac OS languished along with Apple. But still, you'd think there'd be more interest in Apple's computer lineup among the public in general given the quality of the gear they make and the popularity of the iPhone. And at this point there's no excuse for claiming you need Windows software since you can run that on a Mac anyway. It'd be nice to see Apple return to its roots and re-invigorate its computer lineup over the next year or so, and hopefully attract new customers as a result.
[doublepost=1491609680][/doublepost]
I think the bungled LG display launch absolutely factored into this week's revelations from Apple, and was a major embarrassment to them as a company. Not that there was tons of bad press on it, and it's been fixed since then. But Apple simply DOES NOT tolerate a lack of quality like that in their hardware generally speaking. Since Apple was associated with this product, they took it personally, I think. Someone high up the food chain, after hearing the incessant complaints from pros and the LG display, finally said "OK, enough of this, we have to pull up our sleeves and get back to our roots as a computer company".
Did not say I personally in the market for one.... but then I have never needed top of the line monitors.... what I need is monitor prices to come down. I could easily use 8K -- but I never buy until around the 3rd generation (I use to buy 1st gen) and for prices to come down something new and improved have to be above it (now 8K). I have one directly in front, one on the left and right (the last one I retired) -- all together 8Kish -- once I replace them all..... I since I don't have one thing on all of them I don't need a Ultra-Wide.... just do it in multiple monitors... It will be a good 3+ years after every monitor company has an 8K for it to come down in price.... then they might have 16K.... Top end is usually a small niche market.... but future generations it is the status quo.
And the laser printers I have given are just standard office printers (nothing that special about them).
Early generation hardware is expensive.... my first PC (IBM) retailed for $8,400 for a smidgen extra memory, 2 floppies, CGA monitor, and DOS 1.1.... and at that time you basically had to replace it every few years.... I calculated my Mac Pro 2008 (which has had the processors running flat out at "750% to 800%" for 4.5 months) is 10,000 more CPU power. I am sure that it was inconceivable that anyone would need that much horsepower. I still remember when people added more memory -- others would say you would never need that much.... In fact when my I added 10GB to my Mac Pro 2008, I was told I was crazy - you would never need it. If the hardware vendors did not push the limits and listened to all those that said .... it is good enough we would all be running much less powerful hardware with much lower resolution monitors - with dot matrix printers.
I will let others go for the bleeding edge these days.
[doublepost=1491613773][/doublepost]AppleHQ dot news has an open letter to Apple on this subject
Apple recently said it is working on a "completely rethought" Mac Pro with a modular design that will be accompanied by an Apple-branded pro display.
Apple did not share any specific details about the external display, but if the blog Pike's Universum is to be believed, it could feature an impressive 8K resolution. The report did not offer any additional details about the display, including a potential release date, but Apple said it won't be ready this year.
8K displays are just starting to reach the market now, led by Dell's new 32-inch UltraSharp 8K display, which retails for $5,000 in the United States. Apple has yet to launch a display with greater than 5K resolution, as found on the iMac with Retina 5K Display and the UltraFine 5K Display it partnered with LG on.
Apple confirmed that it had exited the standalone display market after discontinuing the Thunderbolt Display in June 2016, but it has evidently reversed course. It's a smart move, given concerns that Apple was no longer focused on pros, and considering that LG's UltraFine 5K Display had a hardware flaw.
On the Mac mini front, the blog said that the next high-end model "won't be so mini anymore," suggesting the most expensive configuration might have a larger or taller design to accommodate for upgraded tech specs. Apple last updated the Mac mini in October 2014, a span of 903 days, per the MacRumors Buyer's Guide.
Apple recently said the Mac mini is "important" within its product lineup, but it remained tight-lipped about the prospects of future updates.
The current Mac mini models, which are designed to be connected to a display, keyboard, and mouse purchased separately, range in price from $499 to $999. The base model is equipped with a 1.4GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 processor with 4GB of RAM, a 500GB hard drive, and integrated Intel HD Graphics 5000.
Intel has released faster Kaby Lake processors appropriate for the Mac mini, but no other rumors have surfaced about the entry-level computer as of yet. At least one other plausible addition is Thunderbolt 3, which is already included on the MacBook Pro and rumored to be added to the next iMac models as well.
Pike's Universum is best known for spotting references to unreleased Macs or upcoming software versions hidden within Apple's operating systems. The blog does not have an established track record of reporting on Apple's plans based on its own inside sources, so this rumor should be treated with caution for now.
Article Link: Apple May Be Working on 8K Display and New High-End Mac Mini
An update to the the previous quad mini server is all that's really needed.
A quad i7, 2ram slots, space for 2 hard drives and integrated graphics. Perhaps add a mobile gpu as an option?
I'd buy a 4.0 GHz i7, 16gb ram (with capability for 32gb), 256 ssd with 1TB spinner in an instant. That would be a great little machine
For the display, they should really do a 21:9 version of the 5k display - I hope that's what they mean when they say 8k. Throw in OLED and it'd be the perfect monitor. Comeon Apple - innovate baby! This is an easy one compared to the stuff you've done!
Bold: You gotta be kidding, there is not one single person i am aware of which believes the Apple Displays are not the most beautiful displays.
LOL, Dell.
You don't want OLED on a display where there is a lot off static content because of image retention.
That is not true. Apple has always extended things until a replacement is ready, if they intended to keep providing such a product. They are not poorly managed. If they intended to release a new Apple display, they would have worked on it a long time ago. Leaving a 2 year gap with nothing to sell is absurd.
They have the prettiest case designs. There are technically better displays, but they aren't usually worth the cost for general use.
I believe the 2013 Mac Pro design would have worked successfully in the Mac Mini ecosystem, and I'd be very happy to see a new Mini with ideas borrowed from the cylinder Mac Pro.
How the heck did i miss this ?
Won't users get confused and buy this thinking they just bought an iMac?
I can't see the Mini being "better" an iMac resolution, since u connect a Mac Mini to any HDMI-display you want. No one will upgrade to a better display just to use a desktop machine.. That's crazy talk ,, unless Apple states what displays you can use with it, (in which case people will freak out as to why)
Won't users get confused and buy this thinking they just bought an iMac?
I can't see the Mini being "better" an iMac resolution, since u connect a Mac Mini to any HDMI-display you want. No one will upgrade to a better display just to use a desktop machine.. That's crazy talk ,, unless Apple states what displays you can use with it, (in which case people will freak out as to why)
People that want to buy an all-in-one know they want to buy an all-in-one and unless they are completely oblivious to the fact there is a box next to the monitor with a long cable.... it is hard to miss.... will know that is not an all-in-one (regardless of naming). Those that don't want an all-in-one (tend more to the technically competent side) and don't need the power of a Mac Pro will gravitate to a mac mini. I will never buy an all-in-one computer.
Whether the monitor is internal or external it is connected by a cable, external at least the monitor uses standards. The only plus with an internal monitor is that the manufacturer does not have to rely on industry standards, the negative for consumers is that the manufacturer does not have to rely on standards. I remember being at a client site that was a Mac shop in the old days with the base and the monitor that would rotate and they had a large number of broken macs .... all with issues with the monitor or the monitor stand.
With a mini and an external monitor I can replace the monitor easily -- or use the monitor for multiple computers easily...
For people that are afraid of their computers and averse to plugging in a cable -- then the iMac is for them.
Displayport 1.4 is what you would use for an external 8K monitor -- in 2018 the SuperMHL standard should be out as well.... HDMI tends to lag and probably should just be dropped going forward.
I love my current Mac Mini - but I am liking the proposed spec of the new iMac - I might get that as the power and capabilities would last me a good long while. Very happy about this news.
It's definitely doable if they go to arm chip. I think Apple should go to arm for all non pro products.
[doublepost=1491661529][/doublepost]What I want in an Apple display is OLED, 2k resolution, about a 21 inch screen...and all that less than $500. I want to able to add a couple of these to my rMBP.
If they are talking about an 8K screen then the display is going to be massive and the price is going to be massive as well.
I hope they at least come out with different display sizes and varying price points.
All iof us at Apple and Macrumors are deeply disappointed to hear your decision. That being said we wish you the best of luck in the future with your new choices and look forward to frequent updates with how it is all working out for you.
-Tim, Phil and the entire Apple team.
I'm perfectly serious. Everyone has been begging for slimmer mac devices (according to certain Apple execs).