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When I say "entry level Mac", I mean a cheap yet powerful little box. When Apple says "entry level Mac", they mean the smallest amount of soldered memory and a spinning drive. The consensus on MacRumors was that they had killed the Mini with the 2014 model. Let's not pretend the walking zombie is still alive.
 
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Give us a PC that runs Mac OS. Sure, charge more for it; don't under spec it; don't under sell it. But please, give us a PC that runs Mac OS. Oh, and if you want to make the new Mac Mini, erm, cube shaped, then please do so. I didn't have two cents to run together when the original Mac Cube came out. I feel like I missed out.
 
People that want to buy an all-in-one know they want to buy an all-in-one and unless they are completely oblivious to the fact there is a box next to the monitor with a long cable.... it is hard to miss.... will know that is not an all-in-one (regardless of naming). Those that don't want an all-in-one (tend more to the technically competent side) and don't need the power of a Mac Pro will gravitate to a mac mini. I will never buy an all-in-one computer.

I am to referring to Apple users in all cases, but them u say "Yes i've seen iMac and know what they are because i buy them, but now this new Mini-style comes along, but its looks the same as an iMac does"

True, when they see someting is different, they will "know" but the inital perception would more be "oh,, its an iMac"

It will still raise more questions than u walking into a store and physically seeing a difference at first look. Its only after a second look as "Did u see that right" people would understand "No this is not an iMac, Its a Mac mini"

Not every display can do the same refresh rates, and not all displays can display all resolutions either. The issue that the Mac mini is designed to work with any HDMI display must them mean all idpslays must do the same refresh rate or offer the same "native" resolution, which is not gonna happen..

You can downscale, but then that is no longer 'native' althogh would look good as well.
 
I am to referring to Apple users in all cases, but them u say "Yes i've seen iMac and know what they are because i buy them, but now this new Mini-style comes along, but its looks the same as an iMac does"

True, when they see someting is different, they will "know" but the inital perception would more be "oh,, its an iMac"

It will still raise more questions than u walking into a store and physically seeing a difference at first look. Its only after a second look as "Did u see that right" people would understand "No this is not an iMac, Its a Mac mini"

Before they did away with the Apple Monitor, you would walk into the store and see the Mac Minis with an Apple Monitor already.... why would changing the components on the inside suddenly be a problem?
 
why would changing the components on the inside suddenly be a problem?

because its not the inside that the user will see,, its the casing. All i'm saying is, there is a psychical difference large enough to notice. This is not the same as "Something we have seen for years"
 
because its not the inside that the user will see,, its the casing.
You missed my point, the picture in the rumour is that of an existing Mac Mini. The monitor is an Apple monitor. This combination is not new.... only the insides of both would change. If I walked into the store in the past I would see this combination. If the rumour is true I would walk into the store and see the same combination. The combination is not new, just the insides.... so if it is confusing.... it is already historically confusing.

BTW, I would not be surprised if this is partially true but not "together". I expect they are working on an 8K monitor for the new Mac Pro. I would not be surprised if they are working on a new Mac Mini with a quad core (similar to 2012 model); and/or a cylinder version of the iMac (though less likely) -- but the fact that the "new" mac mini being able to handle 8K.... well the Macbook Pro can already handle 8K resolution in total.... So if they brought that build to a Mac Mini it would just be the same -- nothing that new.
 
Very nice indeed but,Too little too late Tim. Gave you as long as I could and then went non-Apple.

I was so very close to that course of action. I held off. It's a painful wait. I'm being trusting that prior lessons have been learned for sure, and so I hope we see something worthwhile in the fall.

As you'll no doubt point out, my trust may be foolish, but I do want to believe that Apple will deliver...
 
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Genius predictions, these.. :)

I think the current Mac Pro would make an excellent higher-end mini replacement. They just need to drop the price another $1-2k or so.

But, in all seriousness, if they put an i7 in the 'trash can' with a reasonable GPU, it would sell like hot-cakes! Reasonable size, crazy quiet, elegant compared to most PCs, competitive pricing, and with that much cooling, it could be run hard with no worries.

It would be a perfect prosumer machine.
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As you'll no doubt point out, my trust may be foolish, but I do want to believe that Apple will deliver...

I think they will deliver. I'm more worried about 5 years out (possibly sooner if things keep declining on the software front so rapidly). It's the software, not lack of hardware, that has me most concerned.
 
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Don't know how they are going to drive this on the 'fisher price' hardware they put in macs these days. The benchmark gap between average macs, and average windows PC, grows wider everyday, and on the wrong side of the curve. But prices get higher.
 
Make it fatter with a nice heavy heatsink. Maybe a small but dedicated GPU, Latest i7, 16GB RAM minimum, lead solder throughout, 256MB Flash SSD system drive, space for a 3rd party SATA or M2 SSD, 2 USB 3 and 2 USB C, 2 Thunderbolt II, and Ethernet. Give an option to leave out the IR sensor, WiFi, and Bluetooth. I'd rather sacrifice those for better/more internals and ports.
 
Genius predictions, these.. :)

I think the current Mac Pro would make an excellent higher-end mini replacement. They just need to drop the price another $1-2k or so.

But, in all seriousness, if they put an i7 in the 'trash can' with a reasonable GPU, it would sell like hot-cakes! Reasonable size, crazy quiet, elegant compared to most PCs, competitive pricing, and with that much cooling, it could be run hard with no worries.

It would be a perfect prosumer machine.
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A great way to not throw away all that R&D. Quad i7, decent graphics and TB3...boom!

Do it .
 
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> On the Mac mini front, the blog said that the next high-end model "won't be so mini anymore,"

After so much money/time invested in the current Mac Pro case, its enclosure will become the new Mac mini. Switcheroo!
 
We need all the big boys pushing 8K so in a few years I can get a display and graphics card to push it at a reasonable price. ;)
 
Genius predictions, these.. :)

I think the current Mac Pro would make an excellent higher-end mini replacement. They just need to drop the price another $1-2k or so.

But, in all seriousness, if they put an i7 in the 'trash can' with a reasonable GPU, it would sell like hot-cakes! Reasonable size, crazy quiet, elegant compared to most PCs, competitive pricing, and with that much cooling, it could be run hard with no worries.

It would be a perfect prosumer machine.

I would buy that.
 
I was so very close to that course of action. I held off. It's a painful wait. I'm being trusting that prior lessons have been learned for sure, and so I hope we see something worthwhile in the fall.

As you'll no doubt point out, my trust may be foolish, but I do want to believe that Apple will deliver...

So are we who wait insane? Apple just keeps doing things the same and we keep expecting different results...

So we wait and hope, wait and hope, wait and hope....Maybe this year...nope. Maybe this year...
 
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