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So if this year is a further tweak of the 6 design (6SE etc) then 2017 is the "all-new" iPhone 7 that would make 2018 the new "S" year...maybe?
 
No it makes sense, I mean it will be iPhone's 10 year anniversary.

If that's true, then I have no problem saying if Steve were alive that would never happen -- he hated nostalgia, and was quite outspoken about anniversaries and related products.
 
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So if this year is a further tweak of the 6 design (6SE etc) then 2017 is the "all-new" iPhone 7 that would make 2018 the new "S" year...maybe?

I mean, we have to ask ourselves, why are we the consumers demanding a new iphone every year, what are we getting? Incremental spec upgrade, thinner products, 16 gigabytes of storage, drop the headphone jack. With Steve Jobs at the helm I'm confident he wouldn't allow a 16 gigabyte model phone or 5400 rpm drive to be released on an Apple product in the year 2016 because it's so antiquated and offers such an inferior experience.

Steve had a passion for the Apple family, putting forth a cutting edge, visionary approach that rivals couldn't compete with; the heck what anyone else thought. Tim cares about higher profit margins. Nothing else.
 
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A totaly black iPhone with a seamless OLED screen? Please, take my money! Cant wait to see a moving wallpaper on a device like that!

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I couldn't resist to make a quick mock-up about my idea of a totaly black OLED iPhone. Would love to see it blacker than black.

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Yes please!
 
Nice, I think it's a great plan. I'm a bit torn as I think the metal casing just looks and feels more premium, something about the iPhone 6s+ that screams luxury until you turn the screen on, then it screams ghetto with those comically sad huge bezels. But for durability you can't beat gorilla glass. I abuse the living hell out of my Note 5 and run with no covers or skins at all and there isn't a single scratch on the back. Never in my wildest dreams would I ever run an iPhone without at least a skin as just looking at the metal casing will scratch it. I hope they blend the metal frame with the glass as well, as I can't stand 2 tone designs like the Note 5 where the frame is a light grey and the phone is black/blue/white, etc. It just looks gaudy, similar to chrome frames a couple of generations ago.

My biggest hope is that they reduce the humungous bezels and make the entire footprint of the phone smaller, but keep the same screen size, or alternatively make the screen larger and keep the same footprint. The iPhone has by FAR the most beautiful front because it has no logos at all, I don't know why other companies don't understand this and insist on uglifying their phones with huge logos plastered on the front.
[doublepost=1459094881][/doublepost]I'm curious how they will handle their tick tock schedule. If we get an IP7 this summer then will they skip next year and go IP8? Or will they introduce an entirely new flagship but keep the 7s?
 
I just feel the iPhone is stale and it's becoming harder and harder to defend Apple and justify buying a new iPhone anytime soon.
Than don't. Use the one you have for five years before you upgrade again. It's a very powerful and expensive mobile computer, not the Apple Watch Band of the season. They just added a new secondary touch gesture, 50% more megapixel camera, 4K video capability, double the RAM and stronger glass and aluminum in Rose Gold. If that isn't enough for you to justify a purchase, than you probably already own a very recent iPhone. Don't act up like a spoiled child. MacBook customers would freak out if you would tell them they get +70% CPU +90% GPU and a 6nm DIE shrink on top for under $1000. The 6s is a solid s-cycle upgrade and this newest KGI rumor points exactly in the bezel-less direction everybody wants to go.
 
"Apple is planning a major overhaul of the iPhone for 2017..."

Soooo, I guess the pending 2016 iPhone 7 is going to be a bust of an upgrade?
 
Than don't. Use the one you have for five years before you upgrade again. It's a very powerful and expensive mobile computer, not the Apple Watch Band of the season. They just added a new secondary touch gesture, 50% more megapixel camera, 4K video capability, double the RAM and stronger glass and aluminum in Rose Gold. If that isn't enough for you to justify a purchase, than you probably already own a very recent iPhone. Don't act up like a spoiled child. MacBook customers would freak out if you would tell them they get +70% CPU +90% GPU and a 6nm DIE shrink on top for under $1000. The 6s is a solid s-cycle upgrade and this newest KGI rumor points exactly in the bezel-less direction everybody wants to go.

Will there still be a 16 gigabyte version?
 
Don't you realize how absolutely inane that statement is? You could use the same logic to justify an 8GB iPhone. After all, if you need more you can just pay $100 to double, another $100 to go further, etc. right?

A phone with a 4K camera simply should *NOT* have 16GB of storage. That's just pathetic. you can shoot barely 20 minutes before you have COMPLETELY filled up your storage. Wow. Especially when it would have literally cost pennies for Apple to have put 32GB instead. No joke, not even a dollar. NAND flash has gotten so cheap but Apple seems stuck in 2011. It's sad and pathetic.

But worst of all, a $750 phone with 16GB...???? Come on now. There are Android phones less than HALF that price with 32GB. What a joke.

I used to be an iPhone guy even since the first back in 2007. But these days the iPhone is an awful joke, a punch line.

I hope that this year, when Apple does move to 32GB (it really just had to at this point), I hope their profit margins take a HUGE dive because they truly deserve it.

Likewise, your argument could be used to criticize the low-end of every product of every company.

A 4K TV should not be just 40", you can't possibly need all those pixels at that size. It would be a negligible cost for Samsung to make it 45" instead. Especially for a $700 television! Even 10 years ago larger CTR TVs cost less than that!

A 4-door car that seats 5 people should not have a 3-cylinder 74hp engine, that's just not enough to get 5 grown adults to the speed necessary to go on a highway. Mitsubishi should make it at least a 4-cylinder turbo with at least 120hp. The cost would be negigible, they make so many other engines. Especially for a $13,000 car, that is pathetic. This is 2015, we need to move past 3-cylinder tiny engines.

If it's not a good product for you, don't buy it. What good is it to criticize products that aren't meant for you? Buying a 16GB iphone and then complaining that you can't store more than 20 minutes of 4K video is like buying a Mitstubishi Mirage and then complaining that it can't tow your trailer. Obviously the buyer picked the wrong product for the needs. I know people that get by just fine with 16GB - they only bought a smartphone because feature phones don't really exist anymore. If you don't do anything more than email, text, navigation, and the the occasional photo, 16gb is plenty.

Why don't you focus your criticism on the people who foolishly buy a 16GB phone with the unreasonable expectation of filling it with dozens of games, hours of 4k video, offline music, and thousands of photos?
 
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An iPhone 7 that's a greatest mash-up of the 4S and 5S design? Shut the F up and take my money.

I still have my old 4, and whatever they used for the glass on the front gives such better image quality than what they use now. Richer colors, deeper blacks. And overall, much clearer and crisp. And then OLED on top? Sounds great. Plus, adding glass to the back (again) will give the phone some needed weight, which is good because they keep getting lighter and more prone to slippage.

Also, for what it's worth, not sure if MR reported on this, but the rumor of Apple using OLED in the iPhone 7 Plus seems to be supported elsewhere: http://techreport.com/news/29881/report-apple-next-iphone-will-use-oled-displays-from-samsung

At 60,000 sheets per month (e.g. probably >10x that when cut down into 5.8" sizes), both sites seem to suggest that OLED screens will find their way into the *next* iPhone, meaning the iPhone 7.
 
So Apple will be launching in 2017 what Samsung has been shipping now for a couple of years?

This passes for news around here? Elsewhere this type of information might fall under the "too little, too late" headline.
 
If Apple doesn't update the phone this yea the press will have a field day claiming they lost all innovation. Which might be somewhat true, but any products update cycle will slow down as it mature's its only natural. Lets hope WWDC blows us all away with the software if the hardware won't be updated that much this year.
Agreed about critical media and a discerning customer base. Yes there's a lot of mindless lemmings who purchase iPhone, but many of us more knowledable consumers will pick Apple apart if they choose profit and limited iteration over significant ideation--especially in a year when the expectation is a new design. Due to Android Marshmallow and N's parity with iOS, it's a delicate balance Apple must strive for moving forward.
 
I get the OLED part, but what is the benefit/ purpose of a "curved" screen? Maybe because I haven't owned a device with a curved display, I can't imagine what such a screen could do for me.

I've tried out the Samsung S7 edge and I'm not really a fan of the curved screen. It looks cool but i prefer the day to day functionality of a flat screened phone. I would like to see Apple give me either a larger screen with the same overall size or a 5.5" screen with a smaller footprint.
 
Why don't you focus your criticism on the people who foolishly buy a 16GB phone with the unreasonable expectation of filling it with dozens of games, hours of 4k video, offline music, and thousands of photos?

Why offer a 16 gigabyte option in the first place? With apps getting larger, offline Apple music playlists, higher res. photos, 4k video (heck 1080p video), 16gb (realistically 12) is becoming less feasible for the vast majority of consumers by the hour. A 32gb default option makes complete sense in the year 2016. I know Tim Cook likes his high profit margins but please don't set the bar so low for a few extra dollars Apple.

When I talk to foolish people who buy 16GB iphones I feel ashamed of the principle Apple is pushing, that they are offering a product that doesn't meets the basic every day needs of consumers, and in the year 2016 Steve would not want that to happen to members of the Apple family.
 
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As an Apple Shareholder I worry that a minor upgrade this year will result in lackluster iPhone sales and poor stock performance. From a customer perspective, I'm not really sure what else the iPhone needs to compel an upgrade other than design. In the past, upgrades were easy to rationalize because they gave the consumer something substantial they didn't have before (iPhone 5 gave us LTE and iPhone 6 gave us larger screen sizes). The only things I would really like to see are reduced bezels and better battery life. Wireless charging? Meh...
 
Than don't. Use the one you have for five years before you upgrade again. It's a very powerful and expensive mobile computer, not the Apple Watch Band of the season. They just added a new secondary touch gesture, 50% more megapixel camera, 4K video capability, double the RAM and stronger glass and aluminum in Rose Gold. If that isn't enough for you to justify a purchase, than you probably already own a very recent iPhone. Don't act up like a spoiled child. MacBook customers would freak out if you would tell them they get +70% CPU +90% GPU and a 6nm DIE shrink on top for under $1000. The 6s is a solid s-cycle upgrade and this newest KGI rumor points exactly in the bezel-less direction everybody wants to go.

Mine is a 6 Plus. I'm very intrigued as to what they'll bring to the iPhone 7, but to be honest I'm about to become a student and don't really wanna fork out for £600 for a phone in September. We'll see though, but my 6 Plus will easily last a few more years. Unless iOS 10 kills it off. ;-)
 
My 2 cents: If Apple decides to keep their screens without an option for higher resolution / OLED, I might skip the 7 as well.

I already skipped the 6S and bought an iPad 12,9"
Apple has strange ideas about their product lines.

If the next Skylake MacBooks are disappointing from a pricing perspective, I might go Linux Only again.
If you look at the iMac 5k pricing, you could buy a MSI Vortex, if you don't want to build PC's.

(I would never buy neither, just wanted to point out Apple's insane pricing.)
 
Well, we will find out in few months if this rumor has any validity. If the 7 is pretty close in design looks to the 6S then I believe it.
I am not sure Apple will do this. People have high expectations to a redesign every couple years.
In the meantime my 5S is working just fine.
 
I hope Apple creates a new standard for wireless charging, something similar to WiTricity. Preferably I like things to charge when I am in the same room as the charging device, but if that is not feasible, at least create a bowl where I can put all my devices.

I also like to see a Mac Book Pro that can charge the iPhone wirelessly, and an iPhone that can charge wireless ear buds or an Apple Watch
wirelessly.

We need a whole eco system for wireless charging.
 
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