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Remember folks Apple knows what we want before we even know what we want. i mean who would want to have a power pack for a long flight/journey to keep your phone running and want to listen to music on your expensive headphones that you already own.Also a DAC will need its own power or drain the battery even faster. Only plus side could be that Hi Res files (greater than CD quality) can be listened to as at the moment 24bit is not possible through the 3.5 jack and only through the lightening connector via a DAC.
Reminded me of this:

Throughout his career, Steve Jobs famously eschewed market research and relied on his intuition. In a1985 interview with Playboy, he said: “We built [the Mac] for ourselves. We were the group of people who were going to judge whether it was great or not. We weren’t going to go out and do market research.” Twelve years later, he told Business Week: “A lot of times, people don’t know what they want until you show it to them.”
 
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In that case I'm going to ask them to replace my Beats headphones for new ones when buying the new phone. But it still would suck, especially if you'd want to listen to music while charging the phone.
 
So, in addition to the lightning cable and charger and power bank I already have to carry because of the iPhone's still poor battery life, I'll need also an adapter for my existing, industry standard 3.5mm jack equipped headphones because the iPhone needs to get thinner? Making sense.
 
Adapters are great! More adapters, Apple!
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This article and the subsequent thread is the demonstration of what MR has been lately. A clickbait news with the consequent storm of haters on the forum, and 12 pages of Apple bashing in a few hours.

BTW I don't really believe in such a decision on Apple's part for the iPhone 7, and I don't like it. If true (and a big IF) I'd like to know how Apple is going to implement it (the single USB-C port on the MacBook is a solution I really don't like).
Adapter for the headphone ? Not something Id like to carry with me all the time.
 
Not heard that saying before. Quite like it.
Well, I made it up, the saying that is. However it's based on famous Lucky Luke's ability to shoot faster than his own shadow. (Belgium comic)
So I don't claim all the credit. :)

Total rubbish. In places where BT just won't work then listening to 'stuff' via wired headphones is the only way to go.
The last time I flew from LHR to LAX BT was just impossible. Well, there seemed to be 200+ others trying to use it as well.
Talk about choppy reception so going wired was the only way to go. For a 10 to 11 hr flght being able to charge the device is also pretty well a 'must do' action.

Care to revise tour statement?

I strongly advice you to get your ears checked...
You folks apparently missed my "/s" below these statements.
They were purely sarcastic.

In short: I'm with you guys! :)

Maybe the sarcasm detector wouldn't be such a bad invention after all. :p

Glassed Silver:mac
 
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I JUST bought a line in cable for the car this week because I'm so damn tired of bluetooth lag in the car. Siri is unusable it takes so long to register a command.

So I charge and listen to music at the same time a lot. They need to preserve charging and audio out simultaneously or this is DOA.

I've been using BT head units in my vehicles for many years now (current one is a Kenwood).

It has a USB port on the rear, from which I have run a Lightning cable to the dock on the windscreen (or a 30 pin in years gone by).

I can use the phone/listen to music via BT, or, I can listen/make calls via the cable connection whilst charging at the same time.

[Edit] - Just to add, that due to me now having a 6S+, I (very) rarely charge the device in either car, just get in and go, knowing that the phone has connected to the Kenwood and I'm ready to make/take calls as & when.

In 2015, a lack of a 3.5mm jack shouldn't be an issue when it comes to cars.
 
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In 2015, a lack of a 3.5mm jack shouldn't be an issue when it comes to cars.

Plenty of cars only have an aux 3.5 port...

I've gotten so tired of stuffing around with bluetooth in the car I've gone back to just plugging in. Simple, easy, don't have to remember to turn bluetooth on the phone on/off.
 
Oh move on people. Either use EarPods or buy yourself some Bluetooth headphones. Or don't buy the iPhone 7!! Easy!!
 
Did someone hit re-publish on last year's story by mistake?
As bad as this sounds, making us have non-standard headphones, it's totally an Apple move in the stoopid quest for thinner hardware
 
Well this is the new Apple for the last 5 years. It used to be about providing the customers the best possible experience. Now it's about a "good enough so the sheep will keep their wallets open" experience.
There are no sheep, but happy customers.
My last iPhone always is the best iPhone I ever owned...

Thicker is a plus at this point. I've never used a case before, now I need a case just to make the damn thing thick enough to hold comfortably. Uglier -- open your eyes and look around the latest iPhone designs are knockoffs of high end android phones.

User experience, I have to agree with you. When the 5 came out I jumped ship to a galaxy S4 for the bigger screen. Android is beyond awful; the screen on that phone still puts my new iPhone 6s to shame, but android really is horrible, and I'm happy to be back on iOS.

But if the iPhone doesn't have a headphone jack I will keep my 6s as long as possible and suck it up and switch back to android.
iPhone design knockoffs of android phones ? Lol, in which parallel dimension ?

Great. Apple managed to squeeze in a 3.5 mm Audio connector into your sweet spot design iPod Touch 6, so no need to remove it for thinness then. The other reasons you apologetically mentioned sound to me like solutions to problems which doesn't really exit.

But great for MR to finally find a threat heading towards the weekend which is able to go beyond 70 replies.

Slow news week, huh?
yep. Only news about Black Fridays sales .... boring week.

Hang the obsession with thickness. You've gone beyond diminishing returns. Time to start listening to your customer base. Increase the thickness to 7.5mm and give us better battery life! Innovate something else before Jobs comes back from the dead and slaps some sense into you.
do not confuse customer base with forum members .....
 
Apple now thinks innovation is making things thinner and forcing people to buy adapters when most people would prefer a thicker iPhone 7 with a better battery then the iPhone 6 and a headphone jack.

You can't possibly define "most people" though.

There are circa 50 million iPhones sold each quarter, and you can't speak for "most" of them.
 
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Hopefully for the iPhone 7 they switch to USB C. I know—it's a major pain in the butt, however considering that USB C is the connector for Thubderbolt 3, can easily handle video connections, is reversible and is used on the new MacBooks, and is compatible with any USB-C charger, I think it's the perfect time to switch. I just wish it didn't have an internal component. Lightning is stronger, and Apple has control over it for licensing. Two compelling reasons to keep it for now.
 
Fine with me.

This is going to be an awesome thread to read in a few days. The amount of "I'll switch to Android!!!" Always cracks me up.
People will have to switch to android, if like me they use their iPhone as an iPod, if you are at a party and want to play your music, just plug it in... oh.
 
iPod Nano: 5.4mm thin. Still includes a headphone jack. Either this rumor isn't true, or Apple will be ********ting us about removing the headphone jack for "thinness."

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We've been continuously been charging our ears with cellphone electromagnetic radiation over the past 15 years. Time to harvest that energy and charge the iPhones via headphones using lightning adapters.
 
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