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If you are using the phone as a camera often (vacation, job, fun, whatever) and record 4K60 video, or take RAW photos just check how many GB that amounts to.

Also not everyone is making incremental backups regularly. I need to force my parents to do a backup once a year. Can you imagine how long it takes for 256GB to sync over wifi? hahah

Following some of the fantastic logic posted in this thread one could argue not to improve the camera system at all since no one is gonna use that and USB 2.0 is enough for transfer speed anyways.

If you engineer a device capable of creating large amounts of data - make sure you offer the best I/O to move that data. I don't see how this is even controversial.

"640K ought to be enough for anybody." don't be that guy guys
Hopefully you are in the moment on those vacations instead of capturing. I just came back from NYC and I captured a lot of photos and videos, but I tried being in the moment too.
 
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they did not remove the port/cable, it's still there, just the worst version of it. They chose to castrate it and give it 2.0 speeds for greed. How has this anything to do with tech evolving and moving from one mass medium to another?
The phone hasn't even released yet, and you're already accusing them of greed based on a rumor. It's easy to see where your bias is.
 
Rumor also has it that people shoot video in places without high-speed wifi networks.
Then they need to buy a portable wifi router? A laptop with WiFi 7? Why do people immediately become incredibly incapable of solving the simplest technology problem when they want to complain?
 
Then they need to buy a portable wifi router? A laptop with WiFi 7?
Yeah. Or you could buy a single cable that provides a fast, bulletproof connection without the need to carry and power additional gear into the field like a ****ing wifi router. You don't understand the use case here, so move on, mate, you're just embarrassing yourself.
 
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Just buy your own Thunderbolt 4 cable. I have TB4 cables that support up to 240w, bough them for less than $50. Same with lightning, I don’t buy Apple cables.
 
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That's why the "one cable for all" thing creates more confusion than it solves problems.

Not all devices require the same capabilities, so of course the manufacturers won't ship a high speed USB-C cable if it's meant to be bundled with a pair of headphones.

So now you end up with different cables that share the same appearance but not the same capabilities. Before that, you could visually tell what was a video cable, what was an audio cable, now they all look the same but don't work the same.

Thanks EU.
 
The phone hasn't even released yet, and you're already accusing them of greed based on a rumor. It's easy to see where your bias is.
Sorry, my bad. I thought we‘re discussing a rumor on this rumor forum and I based my opinions on these rumors. I‘ll eat my words if Apple implements fast data transfer speeds on the basic iPhone line. OK?
 
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Yep. I suppose there are some who are still steamed Apple ditched floppy and CD drives.
Yeah, I remember when everybody at work wanted the sexy new PowerBook Titanium and I made sure that each one was ordered with a USB floppy drive to avert the afloptoclypse which would surely follow.

They mostly sat in drawers and by the time most users actually needed theirs they'd forgotten which drawer it was in, and came and borrowed mine. It's not that they were never used it's that one drive between about 10 people - kept by someone who could remember where they had put it - was about the right level of provision. Apple weren't dumb back then and by the time they dropped floppy drives they were too small and slow to be of any use to most people most of the time and they'd already stopped using them. You can always find a pocket of people who are using ancient tech (floppies, RS232, whatever) because they depend on some $250,000 industrial kit and while it's good if there is a solution for them it's really not a case for having it built in/bundled.

(The problem with USB-C is that fans of the One True Port tried to gaslight us into thinking USB-A/full-sized DisplayPort/HDMI/MagSafe had gone the way of the floppy, despite masses of mainstream consumer products still shipping with so-called "legacy" ports and USB-C offering zero performance advantages in most cases - but that was all about Apple making Macs with just 2-4 USB-C ports totally replacing 5-7 "legacy" posts and Aple have partly backtracked on that - USB-C always made sense on phones where you need just one do-it-all-port and the only standard alternative was the awful MicroUSB connector...).

Fast USB-C or even TB4 connections are going to be great for some people using their iPhones for serious photo/video work but even they are probably still going to want a thinner, lighter, longer, more flexible cable or three for daily charging (who has only one charge cable and isn't gonna need several with the switch to USB-C?)
 
What’s your point? It’s still 40 gbps right?
If they're thunderbolt 4 cables, they're all required to support 40gbps whether passive or active. Thunderbolt 3 cables were sometimes only 20gbps if they were longer than 2.6 ft (the passive ones could not support the full 40gbps), but the Thunderbolt 4 standard did away with this and forces all longer cables to be active.

Cables longer than about 2.6 feet are generally substantially more expensive for this reason.
 
If they're thunderbolt 4 cables, they're all required to support 40gbps whether passive or active. Thunderbolt 3 cables were sometimes only 20gbps if they were longer than 2.6 ft (the passive ones could not support the full 40gbps), but the Thunderbolt 4 standard did away with this and forces all longer cables to be active.

Cables longer than about 2.6 feet are generally substantially more expensive for this reason.
Still, it’s completely unnecessary spending £120 for that privilege, vast majority don’t need it and the Amazon cables will suffice
 
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Sounds about right for apple. Nuke the charging/transfer you can do with the cable in the box and upcharge for something pretty much every other OEM includes in the box... So much courage.
It used to be you paid higher prices for Apple, but in return they took care of you.

I’ve lost a lot of goodwill towards them with crap like this.
 
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