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Apple Media Event Announcement? iPod Updates Later...
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Well if it wasnt billed as a 'music event'... i have a suspicion apple has been working on a tiny but very impressive camera...
iTunes -> iPod
iPhoto -> ???
iTunes -> iPod
iPhoto -> ???
doogle said:
My shuffle fits in my change pocket.
I dont know how I feel about the phone yet. I mean, it is, of course, useless. On the otherhand, my v180 is crap and needs to be upgraded. This is a good excuse...
Also, and Airport Express with A/V would be just too sweet.
Kobushi
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Tomorrow (err... later today)... expect only the ROKR iTunes phone. If I remember correctly, the original media invite included the words "Here we go again..." (as we all know), but they were printed at the top of a front jeans pocket. We all know where we usually keep our cell phones. I think that makes it obvious based on Apple's usual marketing hints, that it's the ROKR that's going to be officially unveiled.
I 100% expect the shuffle and mini updates as reported earlier (NOT the single-model "Nano" - dumb), but not at this media event. I think they'll be more quietly introduced with a simple press release. They're just not that big a deal to merit a media event, and Steve is not going to be at the Paris Expo, so that probably rules that out. I expect the new 512MB/1GB/2GB shuffle lineup, as well as the slimmer color-screen 4/6/8GB flash minis to be announced sometime between now and the Paris event, via press release only.
I don't think Steve is ready to introduce a new 40/80GB iPod video lineup (not enough industry support for video distribution yet), but I think that is certainly coming before the beginning of the Xmas season. But on-device video viewing will be secondary to the ability to playback high-quality video content on a TV. I don't think movie trailers and music videos warrant a video iPod. Apple needs to make some deals for movie or syndicated TV series distribution on iTunes. Pixar/Disney would be a good start.
Just basing all this on Apple's previous product introductions and getting into Steve's head a bit. 😉
I 100% expect the shuffle and mini updates as reported earlier (NOT the single-model "Nano" - dumb), but not at this media event. I think they'll be more quietly introduced with a simple press release. They're just not that big a deal to merit a media event, and Steve is not going to be at the Paris Expo, so that probably rules that out. I expect the new 512MB/1GB/2GB shuffle lineup, as well as the slimmer color-screen 4/6/8GB flash minis to be announced sometime between now and the Paris event, via press release only.
I don't think Steve is ready to introduce a new 40/80GB iPod video lineup (not enough industry support for video distribution yet), but I think that is certainly coming before the beginning of the Xmas season. But on-device video viewing will be secondary to the ability to playback high-quality video content on a TV. I don't think movie trailers and music videos warrant a video iPod. Apple needs to make some deals for movie or syndicated TV series distribution on iTunes. Pixar/Disney would be a good start.
Just basing all this on Apple's previous product introductions and getting into Steve's head a bit. 😉
doogle said:
My guess is the new slogan will be "100 movies in your pocket". They said this is the year of HD so this is going to be a big release.
iTunes 5.0 with HD movies to purchase (maybe a completely seperate store)
New Airport Express with HD hookups since no one wants to watch movies on a computer
And the big annoucement of the new Ipod HD Movie player (80gb). Same size as the current fullsize models but the whole front is a screen. Maybe the round touchpad pops out the side. Instead of a docking station, they'll have a stand to make it look like the new iMacs for better viewing. It will also have optional cables for HD hookups as well.
I don't think Apple wants to take baby steps with a video player. There is no way to buy HD movies at the moment, so Apple would get a jump start before the release of HD DVD players. This is the only revolutionary thing they can do. I could be way off because I'm not sure how many HD movies in apple's new format would fit on an 80gb drive. Maybe it will only be 50 HD movies in your pocket.
jlewis2k1
macrumors 6502a
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it seems that all of you tend to believe anything that is thrown at you. Regardless if its some pathetic stupid mockup someone did or one small speculation and then people tend to dwell on it. sure, its fun and gets you going for the event. But, seriosuly people lets think more realistically. Lets think more what Apple would actually do at this very moment. Yea there could be these so call video iPod that all of you seem to be drooling over. But, is this something that Apple would actually do at their current state of iPod lines? Probably not, you also have to consider what PortalPlayer provides for Apple. Now, this Nano crap you guys been dwelling on, this is just a freaking mock-up this is not something Apple has created or prototpye. Get out of your stupid little closets and realize what is possible and what isnt at this moment.
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it seems that all of you tend to believe anything that is thrown at you. Regardless if its some pathetic stupid mockup someone did or one small speculation and then people tend to dwell on it. sure, its fun and gets you going for the event. But, seriosuly people lets think more realistically. Lets think more what Apple would actually do at this very moment. Yea there could be these so call video iPod that all of you seem to be drooling over. But, is this something that Apple would actually do at their current state of iPod lines? Probably not, you also have to consider what PortalPlayer provides for Apple. Now, this Nano crap you guys been dwelling on, this is just a freaking mock-up this is not something Apple has created or prototpye. Get out of your stupid little closets and realize what is possible and what isnt at this moment.
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ok my friends, listen up!
This is most definately, obviously, logically NOT just the stupid phone. i have very (very) close ties with an advertising (type) firm, obviously one of the few places you can keep a secret from... even though they still do. but, the word around the business is that this is the most secretive they've ever been about any product. straight from the horse's mouth. can we all say SMOKESCREEN? the phone is a red herring my dearies, this is going to be big! and if it's not, then ok, i give up. if apple has so much lost ingenuity and innovation and all that smart, little guy type stuff, then i'm sad.
This is most definately, obviously, logically NOT just the stupid phone. i have very (very) close ties with an advertising (type) firm, obviously one of the few places you can keep a secret from... even though they still do. but, the word around the business is that this is the most secretive they've ever been about any product. straight from the horse's mouth. can we all say SMOKESCREEN? the phone is a red herring my dearies, this is going to be big! and if it's not, then ok, i give up. if apple has so much lost ingenuity and innovation and all that smart, little guy type stuff, then i'm sad.
Rod Rod
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80GB will hold between 10 and 20 feature-length high definition H.264 movies. High quality H.264 HD content has pretty mcuh the same data rate as MPEG2 standard defintion. Downloads of between four and eight gigabytes per HD movie would (probably) be tedious for most people.iamoneagain said:
Lepton
macrumors 6502a
I'm not an insider, I just think I'm a pretty good guesser, even though I was so very, very wrong on the Intel thing... anyway here's some guesses, so after the announcement I can either yell out I told you so, or, umm, slink away in disgrace.
There's an iTunes phone. The most predicted model is the ROKR E1 - the Moto e790. People say it will be sold with 256K or 512K memory by Cingular in the US, T-Mobile in Germany, O2 in the UK. The iTunes on it will sync up with your iTunes on Mac like a Shuffle. Cingular will also let you buy iTunes music for $2 to download straight into the phone. By the way, that's notable because it would be the first time you tranfer a tune FROM the portable device INTO iTunes on the computer - iPods have been one-way sync.
But is that worth this big "here we go again" announcement? Even with some good iPod bumps tossed in? Moto announced, way back when, there will be a whole line of iTunes phones. So here's my big guess: We will see more than one model announced, and the top of the line will be more than a phone with iTunes software stuck on top of it. It will be a phone based on hardware identical or similar to the Moto e680i. It is a phone, yes, an 'iPod' yes, but it is also the first 'Video iPod'.
That phone can hold at least 2GB memory on an SD card. It runs a fast Intel 300MHz XScale CPU. It runs Linux, and that makes it incredibly customizable. Apple can drop in a simple iTunes program, but it can do more - now, or later through downloadable firmware updates. It could replace just about all the software, or it could change things module by module - the UI, the PDA, syncing, whatever. Think about Apple making a phone from scratch. It would pretty much have the hardware in this thing. A decent set of chips, Intel based, *nix kernel. The hardware and software in this existing, tested phone is a great place to start.
The hardware is a GSM phone, controls that look a bit iPod-ian, even has the headphone jack on the top. Standard fast mini USB port for syncing and charging. The screen is 320x240, touch sensitive with stylus. There's an FM radio, stereo "3D sound" speakers, the new stereo Bluetooth and a VGA camera with 8x zoom. Vibration. And the logo lights up in multiple colors.
The software is Linux. There's Java, 3D graphics, PDA functions. An MPEG4 decoder. It plays video in landscape mode. It records video. It plays MP3, MIDI, and RealVideo. IT does texting, handwriting recognition, voice recognition, IM, MMS, POP and IMAP EMail. GRPS data, WAP and Opera. The Linus does Samba and even telnet.
If you were Apple, would you use this phone, smaller than the Sony Ericsson 910, that sells now for less than $350 without subsidy, as a starter for an Apple phone/music/video pod? I would.
And I'd expand the video stuff you can get now on the iTunes Music Store. SHORT, pocket sized video for geeks on the go - 2 minute news and weather, 3 minute music videos, 4 minute video podcasts like Rocketboom and Tiki Bar which are there already. Cartoons. Animations...
There's an iTunes phone. The most predicted model is the ROKR E1 - the Moto e790. People say it will be sold with 256K or 512K memory by Cingular in the US, T-Mobile in Germany, O2 in the UK. The iTunes on it will sync up with your iTunes on Mac like a Shuffle. Cingular will also let you buy iTunes music for $2 to download straight into the phone. By the way, that's notable because it would be the first time you tranfer a tune FROM the portable device INTO iTunes on the computer - iPods have been one-way sync.
But is that worth this big "here we go again" announcement? Even with some good iPod bumps tossed in? Moto announced, way back when, there will be a whole line of iTunes phones. So here's my big guess: We will see more than one model announced, and the top of the line will be more than a phone with iTunes software stuck on top of it. It will be a phone based on hardware identical or similar to the Moto e680i. It is a phone, yes, an 'iPod' yes, but it is also the first 'Video iPod'.
That phone can hold at least 2GB memory on an SD card. It runs a fast Intel 300MHz XScale CPU. It runs Linux, and that makes it incredibly customizable. Apple can drop in a simple iTunes program, but it can do more - now, or later through downloadable firmware updates. It could replace just about all the software, or it could change things module by module - the UI, the PDA, syncing, whatever. Think about Apple making a phone from scratch. It would pretty much have the hardware in this thing. A decent set of chips, Intel based, *nix kernel. The hardware and software in this existing, tested phone is a great place to start.
The hardware is a GSM phone, controls that look a bit iPod-ian, even has the headphone jack on the top. Standard fast mini USB port for syncing and charging. The screen is 320x240, touch sensitive with stylus. There's an FM radio, stereo "3D sound" speakers, the new stereo Bluetooth and a VGA camera with 8x zoom. Vibration. And the logo lights up in multiple colors.
The software is Linux. There's Java, 3D graphics, PDA functions. An MPEG4 decoder. It plays video in landscape mode. It records video. It plays MP3, MIDI, and RealVideo. IT does texting, handwriting recognition, voice recognition, IM, MMS, POP and IMAP EMail. GRPS data, WAP and Opera. The Linus does Samba and even telnet.
If you were Apple, would you use this phone, smaller than the Sony Ericsson 910, that sells now for less than $350 without subsidy, as a starter for an Apple phone/music/video pod? I would.
And I'd expand the video stuff you can get now on the iTunes Music Store. SHORT, pocket sized video for geeks on the go - 2 minute news and weather, 3 minute music videos, 4 minute video podcasts like Rocketboom and Tiki Bar which are there already. Cartoons. Animations...
EricNau said:
That was based on my initial reaction when I first saw the actual invite. Take a look at the invite if you can find it and the way it's laid out. It just made me chuckle and seemed obvious that this was to be the iTunes phone introduction. I wasn't thinking too hard, it was a first impression. 🙂
I hope there IS more to it, but I doubt it.
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Kobushi
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jlewis2k1 said:
k, instead of just yelling at everyone, why not show the site that shows that the iPod Nano, although nifty looking, doesn't exist?
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/sitenews/mobile_sitenews/ipod-flash-concepts-winner-announced/
JCentourage
macrumors newbie
No New Music this Tuesday
I feel (read I hope) that the lack of any new music added today (Tues) means that there is a big enough change coming to iTunes / Music Store content, that they need to wait until after tomorrows event and reveal. This hopefully means video, but at least means more than a stupid phone.
I feel (read I hope) that the lack of any new music added today (Tues) means that there is a big enough change coming to iTunes / Music Store content, that they need to wait until after tomorrows event and reveal. This hopefully means video, but at least means more than a stupid phone.