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Apple Memo Says Original iPad Pro and Strangely the 'Apple TV HD' Will Become Vintage Products Next Month
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My IPP 12.9 is really great, got one on launch day and I use it every day. Been wanting to upgrade to the newest one for years and have never found a reason to. Rarely has an Apple 1st gen device performed so well.
Same here, my 12.9 is a great device and I have no reason to upgrade.
The Apple TV HD is a Wifi 4.2 (802.11AC) and 2 GB RAM deviceHas to be a typo for the AppleTV HD but the sooner they get it off sale the better
Apple 4K 1st gen = 3GB RAM
Apple 4K 2nd gen = 4GB RAM
iOS 16 has been likely requiring 3GB RAM to support GUI improvements around multitasking/moveable windows and I suggested that this requirement would also effect older devices like the iPad mini 4 and Apple TV HD that also use the same specs.
A 3 GB requirement is extremely unlikely. iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 both only have 2 GB RAM.
Don’t worry. iPad OS hasn’t done anything new or interesting since…they called it iPad OS. I doubt that’s going to change this year. Rumors so far seem to indicate taking yet another stab at multitasking. Hopes not high for that either.
Don’t get me wrong I love my iPad, but mine is the last before the M1 and I feel a shafting coming on. But it’s fine for what it is and should always be, which is basically a portable TV and document reader and occasional second monitor.
That was also mentioned in a another thread when this was talked about. Both are also 802.11AC (4.2) models. In a few days we will find out if these assumptions against what will be cut is correct.
Yes but Apple TV runs tvOS which likely doesn‘t need windowing support although extra ram for games is always welcome and it is a fork of the original iOS variant I guess.
id suggest that window support could become an M1 feature - something available for the price of a 5th gen iPad Air now. It’s also been called ‘pro mode’.
back to the AppleTV though. If Apple are looking to make more money out of software because hardware is likely to be constrained with chip shortages I’d suggest they need to look to getting a new model Apple TV out there with at least an A13 cpu, preferably an A15 to be fair. If a base iPad can get an A13 then the Apple TV deserves better.
even though a loophole enables Apple to get rid of an old remote control from the Apple TV HD I get the impression that the quickest way for Apple to draw users to the Apple TV device is buying live sports rights. Buying in TV shows and films has a lead time involved
American sports is fine but Apple missed out on the chance to bid for BT sport in the UK earlier this year which might have brought them premier league football, champions league football, premiership rugby union, Ashes cricket, and various other sports For a valuable market.
interestingly BT sport has now merged with Eurosport which has AR studio tech in the form of ‘the cube’.
Yes and so does the 7 Plus, but both the 8 and 7 have only 2 GB RAM.
You can buy Apple TV 4K often at a discount. Even in the absence of a discount, Apple TV 4K is easily worth $30 premium for:
- Significantly faster and more responsive performance, even for 1080p (thanks to A12 and 3GB RAM, vs A8 and 2GB RAM)
- Longer tvOS updates and support
- Thread networking, arguably the best standards based smart home protocol
- Output audio to HomePod or HomePod mini
- More reliable and faster Wi-Fi 6 (vs Wi-Fi 5)
- Gigabit Ethernet
- And of course, 4K, HDR10, Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos
You can't assume that. iOS vs iPadOS vs tvOS share similar build numbering, which means they do have some things in common even if it isn't used.
- iOS 15.6 beta 2 (19G5037d) - May 31, 2022
- iPadOS 15.6 beta 2 (19G5037d) - May 31, 2022
- watchOS 8.7 beta 2 (19U5037d) - May 31, 2022
- tvOS 15.6 beta 2 (19M5037c) - May 31, 2022
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Basically all that suggests to me is that 2 GB RAM will likely be the minimum for both iOS 16 and iPadOS 16.
BTW, Apple Watch only has 1 GB RAM.
I guess due to the specific IOS fork the RAM could be less (watch). I was saying that iOS/iPadOS 16 would be 3 GB RAM min.
But the iPhone 8 was only discontinued in April 2020, I think we're looking at another few years of support for that at this stage.
The iPhone 7 was discontinued in September 2019.
If we're looking at removing iOS support for older phones it might suggest that A9 devices such as 6s are on the chopping block this year - but even then the original SE stuck around till September 2018 meaning A9 CPU products might get a stay of execution till 2023.
Apple could therefore be looking at introducing features such as Pro mode for M1 iPads or some for phones which internally have more RAM.
Yes, as I was suggesting all along, there is no way Apple will make 3 GB a requirement for iOS/iPadOS 16. It will most definitely support some 2 GB devices.
It's possible A10 is required, but I'm not so sure about that.
And absolutely no one in the general public would have a clue about all that when they go to buy one. That is all geek stuff, most real world people think is gibberish. What they will know is the HD model is usually cheaper and works fine with their existing tv. Thats what the sales guy said.
Exactly. It's basically my communications hub, e-reader (pdfs etc), video player, and sketchbook. It's not about computing power, it's about the screen size/form factor.
What's funny is that I like the big bezels on this. The new ones with no bezels are a bit more awkward to hold IMO.
iOS16 and iPadOS16 are separate things and can have separate hardware requirements. The iPhones wont get windows even if the iPad do.
Still doesn’t make me happy bout it as I too have the original & far too early to mark obsolete.
I was looking at making an appointment to have the battery replaced in my X and I was surprised that it seemed like it was going to allow me to make an appointment for my 4s battery.
That was the iPhone 4... if you are going to mock, learn which devices actually had the issue.
This is all the more reason for Apple to discontinue Apple TV HD.
It would be one thing if Apple TV HD sells for around $99, perhaps with few additional cost saving measures, such as 16GB storage and no Ethernet. But $149 is just ridiculously expensive for what you get.