Samsung is going to make a pro workstations?? no and what is dell and hp going to do?
Drop the HP-Z down from what it is now???
HP-Z is killing mac with hardware right now.
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Apple Mulling Preview of New Modular Mac Pro at WWDC in June
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Drop the HP-Z down from what it is now???
HP-Z is killing mac with hardware right now.
You just need to look at Apples past designs to conclude this is a very good *possibility*.
At the moment, Apple isn’t a reliable company if you want a good beefy Pro desktop machine.
Edit: *And expandable
At the moment, Apple isn’t a reliable company if you want a good beefy Pro desktop machine.
Edit: *And expandable
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I hope it ships by June.
Maybe Apple should just spin the computer stuff off into its own company. They just don't seem that interested in them anymore compared to other product lines.
Maybe Apple should just spin the computer stuff off into its own company. They just don't seem that interested in them anymore compared to other product lines.
I wonder what Apple would charge for an iMac Pro minus display? Given Apple's high margins, I doubt it'll cost less than $3,500
One thing Apple seems to pride itself on is its integration between software & hardware. Plus, Apple probably wouldn't want its reputation tarnished if cheap hardware manufacturers made Macs.
While that's a start, how many compatible CPUs and GPUs will there be? Plus, if the rumors of an ARM Mac are true, I fear that'll cut down on compatible CPUs & GPUs.
I wear my Mac Pro every day. I’m very flattered that Apple thinks of people like me when they are designing their Mac hardware. It’s all about style, not the actual work performed on expensive computers.
Look at all the excitement in this thread! Not for a new modular Mac Pro, but the excitement of all the possible future criticisms of Apple when it's previewed/released! The anticipation is palpable.
Anyone who’s stuck around THIS long will assuredly wait another year.
Still not sure. If instead he was complaining about an insufficient number of teaser ads, I still think we should relax. Our new Mac Pro is coming, and they’ll start promotions when they’re ready. The pros who will bail on Apple have already bailed, and those who haven’t know it’s coming and are patient enough not to get hung up on the timing of an early promo.
What does "beefy" mean? Most of the software that people run on pro machines is legacy stuff that isn't even that optimized for the current state of the hardware or the newest versions of the OS. Software is always behind the curve.
If the modular pro mac looks good, yes, you could see Samsung suddenly start developing a pro modular computer.
Samsung can copy Apple's business plan to mitigate increased competition from Chinese smartphone manufacturers.
I’m not sure why you feel the Mac Mini is overpriced. That’s a fair price for those internals and the IO. I think anyone using a Mac Mini would probably just hang drives off it anyway, so even the 128 GB in storage is not terrible if you just plan on having a handful of lightweight apps.
Their lack of commitment to say the least...
Look at the Macbook Pro which is a product fool of failures and inconsistencies.
I just hope the new Mac Pros are more affodable price range than the iMacs Pro... other wise I'll forget Apple...
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Also big FU to the Pro community are all the so called "PRO" products. Look at the Macbook Pro, one of the worse products ever and the iMac Pro that in addittion to be prohibitively expensive has the same old 10 year external design than the regular iMac that you still cannot adjust the vertical position on a 10k Pro computer? Have Apple looked at the Surface Studio?
what he meant was that the fact that they are mulling it over means that they are nowhere near finishing it. WWDC is the perfect platform for such device and it shouldn't be a question at all. The MP should be shown by default. In 2016 they realised they have a problem, in 2017 they said they are working on it and 2019 is the year for release. By now they should have a prototype that works etc. and is probably in final stages. So previewing a video (just like nMP in 2013) is a must. If they are mulling then that signals that the product may not be nowhere near solid and that what he was referring to.
Personally, I'm pissed off with Apple too. nMP was cool concept but silly in practice. I was mostly disappointed with no dual cpu setup. Most rendering is CPU based.
Anyway, if they don't preview it at WWDC then I doubt we will see it in 2019 and therefore Apple fails us again.
The whole Mac Pro is a disaster. They should have sticked to the cheesegrater and work from there. 12 core 2010 Mac Pro was by far the best computer I had from Apple.
Now I have ****** 2017 MBP which is all gimmick and no fun.
So, waiting either for iMac and go there or the updated Mac Pro if they don't mess up again.
It's quite amazing (and a little sad) that a longterm forum member like obiwan can really believe that is a direct quote from Apple.
Seems pretty obvious that the "mulling" over part is about showing what they have at WWDC or waiting for a separate even closer to launch. Not about "mulling" over a pro product at all.
Look at what Apple did on 2013. Over engineered try to make slim and extra compact something that did not needed to be. And this problem is just not only to Mac Pro, but Macbook Pro and iMac as well.
Looking at current Apple pricing increases, I doubt the new Mac Pro would be nothing close to affordable.
Mac Mini up 65%, Macbook Pro up 30%, and so on...
That ain't real — someone made a comp off a rumour/what they would like to see. Nothing has been announced, described or introduced other than to say they are working on something they will reveal when ready. this article is talking about when that may be.
$799 for the base Mac mini, with 8GB RAM and 128GB SSD is overpriced, and it just gets worse from there. Upgrading to 16GB is $200; you can get a 8GB stick for under $50, and a 16GB stick is around $100.
1TB is an $800 add-on from Apple. A top of the line, 1TB Samsung 970 Pro is $350, and you can find slower (but still very fast) 1TB NVMe SSDs for $150-250. A 2TB NVMe can be had for $550 or less; Apple wants $1,600 extra for that.
Move away from NVMe, and you can get 2TB for under $300. But of course a 2.5 inch SSD won't fit into the Mac mini, because Apple focuses so much on making it, well, mini. But then to add storage at an affordable price, you've got to go to external storage, as you suggested. At this point, why do I care that the mini is mini? I'm not saving any space on my desk, and now I've got an additional tangle of cords. And so much for the speed advantages of NVMe.
And what an odd pairing high performance NVMe SSD is with low-end, integrated graphics. Want better performance? Throw an external GPU on your desk and credit card. Now your computer isn't looking so mini in size or price.
The Mac mini reflects the worst of Apple right now. Too expensive to be entry level, too limited to be high end. Add external devices to overcome the limits, and its compactness is no longer an advantage. What is the niche Apple is trying to fill here?
I fear the next Mac Pro will take everything wrong with the mini and crank it up a few notches. We don't need an "modular" Mac; we need an upgradeable one. There's a simple elegance to being able to easily add memory and storage, and to keep everything neatly contained inside a single box, so you don't have a tangle of cords and devices. I could do that with my PowerMac towers. Even my 2009 iMac I was able to upgrade with an SSD and an internal hard drive (I removed the DVD).
As I said before, this doesn't need to be complicated, but Apple insists on making it so. Apple's hubris is to blame. They think they must "innovate" for the sake of being different when tried-and-true solutions are not just less expensive, but superior. And they are looking for ways to milk their customers. Why allow people to install their own RAM for $50 when we can charge them $200? Why allow them to upgrade later when we can sell them a new machine (if we ever get around to releasing a new machine)?
I'm not going to say, that's it, I'm moving to Windows. I won't. I hate Windows. I love macOS. I used to love Apple. Which is why it's so frustrating to see them with their heads up their you-know-what. The irony is that they'd produce better machines if they tried a little less hard. If I sound frustrated, it's because I am. It's hard to believe that such a group of smart, talented people can be so stupid.
1st Gen Mac Hardware (i.e. new designs) often have "issues", so I'll be watching for that. On the other side we have the impending switchover to A series processors coming so that's a push (if you want Intel) to buy one in that first (possibly buggy) release.
You are aware that you're posting at a website named MacRumors, right?
You are aware that you're posting at a website named MacRumors, right?
6K will not only be the monitor resolution but will probably be the base price with a monitor. I bet typical configs will be $10K+
Yep, that's the third thing that makes me skeptical. They admitted they made a mistake with the design of the 2013 Mac Pro, while essentially telling us, "Give us a few years to make a new mistake."
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this modular Mac Pro will blow us out of the water, and make us say, "Wow, why didn't I think of that? Why didn't anyone think of that?" But I expect it to be an overcomplicated solution to the basic problem: Customers want fast machines that they can easily upgrade with RAM, storage, and GPU, at reasonable prices. (Upgradeable CPU would be nice too, but that's not something Apple has historically offered much support for, so I don't expect that).