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I get the impression that some folks think the concept picture in this article is what Apple will be shipping.

No the new Mac won’t look like a Mac Mini nor have a Touch Bar.

i really wouldn’t be so sure about it not looking like a mac mini

it’s just going to be a double height mini with xeon and a gpu

that’s why they gave the mini such terrible graphics
 
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This is a class of computer it makes perfect sense to preview. Pros have long purchase delays due to approvals of high price point equipment, software changes, and workflow changes.

You know Apple is going to change a bunch of stuff, not merely make a faster more modular MacPro.
That will make a bunch of changes to macOS that’s for sure.
 



Apple is considering previewing its upcoming redesigned Mac Pro at its Worldwide Developers Conference this June, according to a new report by Bloomberg today.

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Modular Mac Pro concept from Curved.de

Apple has said it is working on a high-end high-throughput modular Mac Pro for its pro user base that will be easily upgradable and will feature components for the most system intensive tasks.

According to sources who spoke to well-connected Bloomberg journalist Mark Gurman, Apple has "internally weighed previewing a new version of the high-end Mac Pro" at this year's WWDC, although no firm decision appears to have been made.

According to executives Craig Federighi and Phil Schiller, Apple is committed to making the Mac Pro the highest-end desktop system able to accommodate VR and high-end cinema production. Apple has also put together a "Pro Workflow Team" to tailor the Mac Pro and other Apple products to its professional users.

The modular workstation is expected to ship alongside an upcoming Apple-branded pro display, which rumors suggest will be 31.6 inches with a 6K resolution and have "outstanding picture quality" enabled through a new Mini LED-like backlighting design.

We still have no word on when in 2019 the Mac Pro is coming, but Apple did promise a 2019 launch date in early 2018. If it's anything like the last Mac Pro in 2013, we should indeed get further information at WWDC, which Apple is planning to hold from June 3 to June 7 in San Jose, California, based on permit filings uncovered by MacRumors.

Article Link: Apple Mulling Preview of New Modular Mac Pro at WWDC in June
This is the same Bloomberg that has the unverified and unretracted story about Chinese spy chips, correct? OK, just checking.
@jclo , @Joe Rossignol , @arn , @WildCowboy @earthTOmitchel - IMHO, every Bloomberg story ought to have an asterisk with the title regarding their journalistic integrity. </.02>
 
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Release the damn thing already! it's a computer! most people can build one in a weekend! They are getting my nerves with dragging it out so long. They announced they had a dedicated team working on it 2 years ago.. So lets assume a team is 4 people working 40 hours a week, how can it take 2 years! I'd expect 3 months at the most!
 
For sure it will have a soldered SSD for security with T2 (and its encoding). Maybe it will have Nvme slots for other disk.
eGPU makes already Mac mini and MacBook Pro incredibly power, for sure you will be able to plug eGPU there too so the default GPU needs to be very powerful like Radeon VII for both pro and gaming or they could put an advanced integrated only GPU and optional modular eGPU
What would be the point in making a pro system only to have to attach an eGPU. Also pros want/need Nvidia cards with CUDA. Options for alternative cards.
 
Release the damn thing already! it's a computer! most people can build one in a weekend! They are getting my nerves with dragging it out so long. They announced they had a dedicated team working on it 2 years ago.. So lets assume a team is 4 people working 40 hours a week, how can it take 2 years! I'd expect 3 months at the most!
Because you are thinking only about designing it and building it, but how much time does it take to write all software changes and support for new hardware and test it?
 
Two things make me expect disappointment:

  1. Mac mini pricing (with decent amounts of RAM and storage) is absurd, and there's no way the new Mac Pro will be more affordable.
  2. The fact that it's taking them this damn long guarantees that we'll get an over engineered, over complicated, and over priced machine. It doesn't take years to design an expandable chassis.
I've been using Apple products since my family got an Apple ][+ when I was a kid. I've used Windows machines in various jobs, but I've never once purchased a non-Apple computer. I hope never to have to, but Apple pisses me off lately.

Apple is becoming a victim of their own success. Johny Ive and crew have produced some beautiful designs, from Macs to iPods to iPhones. But now it's design and flash über alles, practicality be damned.

I used to be able to say, "Apple doesn't sell low end computers, but what they do sell is price competitive with comparably equipped PCs." Take a look at the Mac mini, and you'll see that's not true anymore: In many ways (particularly GPU), it's a low-end machine at high-end prices. Granted, the Mac Pro will be a high-end machine (at launch anyway; we'll see if Apple leaves it to languish again), but I expect the prices will start out high and quickly rise to ridiculous once options are added.

Apple, just give us a box we can open easily, that we can add RAM and storage (both SSD and HD) ourselves, with an upgradeable GPU. You did this a decade ago, and every other PC maker does this today. You can differentiate yourself from the others by making the box not ugly, and of course, with Mac OS. It's not that complicated, so stop making it so.

You summed up my thoughts well here. Over-engineered, over complicated, and in the end we get something beautiful for marketing that nobody wants or buys, which is why they’ve shifted resources away from pros. Self-fulfilling prophecy here. Do you make incredible machines for real users with real needs, or do you make sexy? Apple has chosen sexy.
 
Given Tim's extra care about the Apple Software and Mac Hardware, I will guess that the modular Mac Pro will be a top of the line CPU attached to a top of the line GPU with 20 UCB -C ports.
 
Sadly this is what happened somewhat with the Mac Pro 2013. When I finally was able to buy it, it was long overdue. Made me feel pro users were no longer important to Apple.
IMO, Pro users aren't that important to Apple. I remember hearing years ago that Apple sold more iPhones in something like 5 years than Macs in its entire multi-decade history. I feel that the "Pro" market is way too niche for Apple now. Look at the Xserve. However, I feel it's a bit of a Catch-22. Apple doesn't upgrade them because people don't buy them. People don't buy them because Apple doesn't upgrade them. CPU & GPU companies have updated their things since the last Mac Pro was announced, so that hasn't been too much of an issue. Plus, Apple introduced TB 3. There are many of hardware upgrades that could be put into a new Mac Pro.
 
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Why is this so hard? There are a million companies making modular, upgradeable chassis for professionals. I have one sitting under my desk, running Linux. This is not a laptop where every millimetre counts.
Life only becomes difficult when Apple makes proprietary machines that are impossible to service, upgrade, or repair (macbook pro, imac pro, current mac pro). But that's not the goal this time, right Apple? ....Apple?

I don't think it's hard, but rather unprofitable. Why make something that people can upgrade and last 5 years, when you can make it so that they buy a new one every 3 years? I'm making up the numbers, but hopefully you get the idea.

Also, it's a reputation thing. I'm sure Apple's afraid people would run out and get an unsupported 3rd party hardware thing and then complain how awful Apple is that it's unsupported.
 
Wow!! Well if they are only ‘considering’ previewing it in June! Then it isn’t going to launch till 2020... Apple really doesn’t seem to know how to handle resources properly considering its size and massive cash flow. No doubt this ‘pro’ Team is made up of members taken from other teams and they haven’t been replaced, because Apple apparently doesn’t like hiring new engineers?

Meh it’ll no doubt be Uber powerful and I’ll want one and it’ll be Uber expensive and I really will have zero need for it! And it’ll look sexy. This is Apple..
 
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I don't think it's hard, but rather unprofitable. Why make something that people can upgrade and last 5 years, when you can make it so that they buy a new one every 3 years? I'm making up the numbers, but hopefully you get the idea.

As opposed to Apple's current winning sales strategy of not releasing anything new in the last 5 years? ;)
 
If they wanted to release something they could have already done it. There isn't any magic needed, all a pro wants is a desktop that can run OSX. That doesn't require any spaceage design, their previous generation (not the trash can) case would be just fine, then use off the shelf components (possibly not the motherboard) and problem solved. If they wanted to do this it would have already been done. This is just another Apple cluster F that seems to be very common lately. If anything the only thing they really need to do is just make the software drivrers needed to interface with the hardware that they use.
 
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JUNE??!! That guarantees it will not be released in 2019. Thanks Tim, you have again clearly proven how much Apple cares about the Pro user.
 
I am guessing "Pro workflow Team" will make this "the most expansive Mac we have ever shipped!" This is ridiculous, businesses have to plan for purchasing of equipment. All this secrecy over a desktop computer is complete nonsense and a giant "FU" to every professional user that has supported Apple.

Possible, but I don't think that's likely.

The Lisa? The Macintosh IIfx? Bring those prices from then for those products to 2019 dollars.

Even with Windows workstations, the most architecturally specced-out ones can run upward of $50,000.

(Heh. I first read "expensive." That said, it is Apple's challenge to make this a compelling computer.)
 
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Apple is considering previewing its upcoming redesigned Mac Pro at its Worldwide Developers Conference this June, according to a new report by Bloomberg today.


Apple has said it is working on a high-end high-throughput modular Mac Pro for its pro user base that will be easily upgradable and will feature components for the most system intensive tasks.

According to sources who spoke to well-connected Bloomberg journalist Mark Gurman, Apple has "internally weighed previewing a new version of the high-end Mac Pro" at this year's WWDC, although no firm decision appears to have been made.

According to executives Craig Federighi and Phil Schiller, Apple is committed to making the Mac Pro the highest-end desktop system able to accommodate VR and high-end cinema production. Apple has also put together a "Pro Workflow Team" to tailor the Mac Pro and other Apple products to its professional users.

The modular workstation is expected to ship alongside an upcoming Apple-branded pro display, which rumors suggest will be 31.6 inches with a 6K resolution and have "outstanding picture quality" enabled through a new Mini LED-like backlighting design.

We still have no word on when in 2019 the Mac Pro is coming, but Apple did promise a 2019 launch date in early 2018. If it's anything like the last Mac Pro in 2013, we should indeed get further information at WWDC, which Apple is planning to hold from June 3 to June 7 in San Jose, California, based on permit filings uncovered by MacRumors.

Article Link: Apple Mulling Preview of New Modular Mac Pro at WWDC in June


So does this mean they’re going to offer a buyback for all the current Mac Pros? They RAPED the owners of the current Mac Pro, and offered NO updates to firmware, no upgradability, support, or dedication to the machine like their others.

I bough a bastard, and I want out!
 
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