Last week's release of the Sibelius Symphonies 3 & 4 performed by the Orchestre Métropolitan de Montréal under Yannick Nézet-Séguin is already available at archive.org?
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Apple Music Classical Now Available for Pre-Order on the App Store, Launches Later This Month
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I'm sure ATMA Classique would be very interested in this
I want a metal music app, now! Only this way I would sign to Apple Music
There are some performances that are in the public domain, but many are not. With classical music, listeners often aren't just looking for any recording of a piece but for one with a particular conductor, performer, or orchestra. Most of these are not yet in the public domain.
Think of it this way: The song "Whiskey in the Jar" is in the public domain (it's from the 17th or 18th century), and there are most likely quite a few public domain cover versions available for download or streaming. But that's not much help if you want to hear the version recorded by Metallica, because that's decidedly not in the public domain.
It's an optional app that you can simply choose not to download, if you don't need it. How is that more bloat than an additional, mandatory tab in the main app?
Probably just a way to generate hype (and show off their pre-order feature, I guess) . All it does is send you a notification when the app is released.
While I too would prefer all music live under one Music roof, classical music, as a category, is an entirely different beast when compared to pop music. Simply put: Music was not built to accommodate the depth of classical music from, say, a search component. Unlike pop tunes, artists, bands, albums, classical music can’t be organized nor structured like pop music. Motzart is the artist. He wrote a piece that a gazillion orchestras have performed, countless conductors have led. It goes on and on. To accommodate adding classical music to Music, they would require either a complete rewrite of Music (which I do think there is some value in that) or a separate app. They went with B. Which at first I was bothered by, but honestly, it is the best approach to quickly address the current need. At least for now.
This says better what I tried to convey.
Here’s why Apple is making an app just for classical music lovers
Apple acquired Primephonic, a service for classical music enthusiasts. The company plans to build a custom Apple Music app for classical music lovers.
thenextweb.com
What I find more interesting about this launch is trying to locate the app in the App Store. For those whining about Apple’s preferential treatment of their own apps, it’s interesting to note that searching “classical” in the AS, did not yield the Apple Music Classical app at all. Nor did searching “classical music.” It wasn’t until I typed the exact Apple Music Classical name that I located the app. And even then, it was exactly the 12th option.
“App Store unfair!”
“Tim’s the worst!”
“Apple is doomed!”
“Side loading!”
🙄🤣
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But it’s not covered by copyright in the same way a new book is. It’s debatable whether the layout of a book is protected by copyright, it’s not automatic, so you might be able to justify copying pages from it since the text itself is not protected. The cover design is probably protected, especially if it has an image.
Now we will be able to search for and locate classical music wonderfully. And, we will be able to play it on....our AirPods??!! How sad. Great search, lousy playback.
Of course Apple isn't speedy about releasing products and features. Continuity of experience doesn't seem to be a high priority for the company. We spent around seven years without being able to get an Apple monitor and finally have the the Studio Display. Pages was without a mail merge function from the time that Pages 09 was replaced (in 2011 by my recollection) until Pages 12 was released this past year. That is around 11 years without a mail merge feature. I'm hoping that a Mac version will be coming in this decade (ha ha). Then we will be able to actually play in a quality environment the great music that we found on Apple Music Classical.
Of course Apple isn't speedy about releasing products and features. Continuity of experience doesn't seem to be a high priority for the company. We spent around seven years without being able to get an Apple monitor and finally have the the Studio Display. Pages was without a mail merge function from the time that Pages 09 was replaced (in 2011 by my recollection) until Pages 12 was released this past year. That is around 11 years without a mail merge feature. I'm hoping that a Mac version will be coming in this decade (ha ha). Then we will be able to actually play in a quality environment the great music that we found on Apple Music Classical.
Tell me you know nothing about classical music, without telling me you know nothing about classical music.
FWIW, What HiFi believes that it isn't a coincidence that the Classical app launches on the same day as the new Sonos products, along with Sonos support for spatial (and perhaps hi-res?) from Apple. That's a long shot, imo; but would be nice if true.
Much needed.
I listen to perhaps a dozen different versions of Pathetique or Goldberg Variations. The algorithms in the regular Apple music just ignore it, and are not attuned to the subtleties of the different performances.
I listen to perhaps a dozen different versions of Pathetique or Goldberg Variations. The algorithms in the regular Apple music just ignore it, and are not attuned to the subtleties of the different performances.
Because the AppleMusic app (and the service) sucks. Hopefully one day the AppleMusic app will become this. Nothing like listening to an album and then halfway through they swap out a track for a live or alternate version. (Ya, I'm one of those guys that listens to a full album from time to time.)
I'd argue if we need a separate app, just make the original one better. Doubt we'll ever see that though. Hopefully the current music app will become as good as this. 😉
Agreed, there's only a few hundred million devices out there that can use it. 🙄
First time I pre-ordered an app, did not know this was a thing.
This is the final nail in the coffin for my iPhone 4S at-home music player, iOS 15.4 and above only.
This is the final nail in the coffin for my iPhone 4S at-home music player, iOS 15.4 and above only.
You nailed it. For my 72 year old ears, classical is the only music that really excites.
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Translation: People who like different things than I do frighten me, so I find ways of demeaning them so in my head they don't seem as much as a threat.
What if you want to compare any existing recordings of Gershwin's song "Shall We Dance"--how do you weed out from your list of hits the Richard Rodgers song of the same name? How do you find the 2009 Beatles remasterings instead of the 2018 ones? Why can't you search by label number? Why can't you search the sidemen on jazz albums, or even see a roster, when they are listed on the CD/LP? Burt Bacharach just died, maybe you want to find out more about recordings of his music; but typing in his name and then choosing him as artist will NOT give you a comprehensive list of albums or individual songs. Maybe you're into K-pop; which Roman alphabet transcription of your favorite artist's name do you use? And so forth.
It's eminently possible to fix all of this. iTunes was half-baked when first launched, and Apple has never remedied its deficiencies; so let's hope Apple Classical is just the beginning of a sophisticated redesign of Apple Music that treats music with love and care, and takes musicians and listeners like serious adults.
With the right metadata. This was never a tech problem, always a metadata problem. That metadata was available for classical from Primephonic because they'd spent years putting it together, and it's probably the key to Apple's decision to acquire. But who's got a database saying that, for example, Burt Bacharach was one of the "Five Blobs" who recorded the title theme from "The Blob" -- the original with Steve McQueen? There isn't one, unless you count Wikipedia. Apple would have to curate it all together. If Apple decided it was going to do that, though, it would do wonders for the employability of people with degrees in library science.
[Edit] I mention this example because I captured it as a ringtone for my iPhone and literally used to wake up to it.
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the most used source of music by classical music people is YouTube. Most classical listeners don't care much about sound quality, it turns out. I think you are conflating audiophiles (the majority of which don't play an instrument and have a love for technology and acoustics) and and classical music listeners (the majority of which are people who learned to play an instrument in school, something very prevalent in the UK, Japan, Korea, less prevalent in some other western markets). Think about the number of youth orchestras, church orchestras etc. That is a much, much bigger group than audiophiles.
"There are simply two kinds of music, good music and the other kind..." – Duke Ellington. There is bad music in the 'classical' industry, but it's a very low percentage. Bad music elsewhere is the norm.