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Oh get off your high horse!

We are talking about music. If I want to listen to The Beatles forever then I will, and it has nothing to do with my desire to learn new things by reading books etc.

If the Beatles float your boat, that's great!
 
I don’t get it, there is a new post by MacRumors that saying that both AirPods max and pro will not support the regular lossless audio format… what am I missing?
For which users/devices this service was created?
 
Audiophile question...will non-Apple branded headphones like Sony's WH series with LDAC be able to stream lossless audio or would they need to specifically support Apples ALAC codec?
No they will not. LDAC isn’t supported on iOS. And Apple is still using AAC as far as I can tell.
 
Not compatible only in terms of Dolby Atmos using the built-in speakers.

Still seems very odd to me, that this is supported on any stereo-speaker iPhone (7 and up, that is) but not on the first two gens of iPad Pro with their 4-way stereo speaker array. Wonder what the reason is, since also the 3rd gen Air supports it.

However to reiterate, neither does this limitation apply to Dolby Atmos using supported headphones, nor to Lossless in general. For that iOS 14.6 is the only requirement.
Thanks for the clarification! Glad to know I can still listen to the higher quality music with headphones while working.
 
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I don’t get it, there is a new post by MacRumors that saying that both AirPods max and pro will not support the regular lossless audio format… what am I missing?
For which users/devices this service was created?
Apple TV and Airplay devices.
 
Any idea what quality we are talking about here? Also listening music on Spatial Audio is not exacty what most artists expected. CD quality would be great.
 
Nope. Lossless (ALAC) will not play natively on any AirPods. It will be compressed to AAC.
This. So much confusion. In fact Apple appears to be banking on it. Imagine everyone running to buy new air pods because they now are “lossless” except they aren’t. They will sound the same as your old air pods. Seems like this is Apple marketing at its best.
 
yeah I agree, there is one particular album that no longer has the unedited/nonclean version either to purchase or stream. or with some 'woke' artists that had certain tracks removed and now my album is messed up.

I am curious do you use any sort of DAC or receiver with your tidal listening? or is it just through headphones?
I am sure i could benefit from a DAC, and have been on the hunt for one that's portable enough to not become a deterrent, but I just plug in directly into the phone or ipad now.

There's definitely a difference however in the standard hi-fi tracks and the 360 tracks on tidal..the soundstage is very different, and feels more studio like. I imagine that would be to a greater degree with a DAC.
 
Any idea what quality we are talking about here? Also listening music on Spatial Audio is not exacty what most artists expected. CD quality would be great.
Artists (or someone else) will have to create special surround mixes of their songs. Sony has been doing this for a couple of years (their "360 reality" audio is what Deezer's and Tidal's "spatial" audio is based on).

 
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Then you should say that it sounds subjectively better to you, not that it's "hi res". LDAC is just another lossy codec otpimized for Bluetooth.
LDAC is widely considered “hi res”. You are just arguing for the sake of it. Fully expected on an Apple forum.


And yes I’m aware of LDACs faults and flaws. I agree it’s not the perfect codec. I was hoping Apple would actually develop the perfect one.
 
LDAC is widely considered “hi res”. You are just arguing for the sake of it. Fully expected on an Apple forum.


And yes I’m aware of LDACs faults and flaws. I agree it’s not the perfect codec. I was hoping Apple would actually develop the perfect one.
That's Sony marketing. By that definition AAC is "hi-res" too, since it supports 24 bit audio at up to 96 KHz sample rate.

It is not possible to transmit lossless (CD quality and up) audio over Bluetooth A2DP without making proprietary modifications to the wireless system. It simply doesn't have the bandwidth.
 
Movies and books have value, they provide inherently new and unique experiences. I also started listening to music when I was 16 as it was suggested to me by a professor when I was in my first year of university to reduce my concentration instead of being too focused on one task.
Music provides "inherently new and unique experiences" too, and if your music doesn't, then you are likely listening to the wrong music. You're content listening to 275 songs for decades, and that's fine, but you can't act like it's crazy for people to have life-long passions for music. You simply don't care about music, and that's fine - for you. The fact that a professor could come to you and say "stop listening to music" and you did speaks volumes about how important music is to you. (Read: it's not.) If a professor did that to me I'd probably have stopped taking much of what he or she said. I would go insane being limited to a playlist like you have.
 
I'm glad those who really dig the subscription service will be able to take advantage of this news, it's pretty awesome especially if there is no price increase.

I have A/B'd to death and cannot tell a difference between 256 AAC and high res on how I digest music. I have 30,000+ ripped albums so as long as Apple doesn't completely remove the ability to sync and store local music I'll be OK.
 
I have A/B'd to death and cannot tell a difference between 256 AAC and high res on how I digest music. I have 30,000+ ripped albums so as long as Apple doesn't completely remove the ability to sync and store local music I'll be OK.

Ditto. I've got an audiophile setup with stupid-priced headphones and cant tell the difference so I have no idea what people with airpods hope to accomplish.

Only time I felt lossless was worth it was this one Live DVD I got once. But between CD vs. AAC, nope, notta.

I'll be A/B testing out the ass when this comes out in hopes of it improving my experience but I have a good idea my opinion wont change.
 
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I have A/B'd to death and cannot tell a difference between 256 AAC and high res on how I digest music. I have 30,000+ ripped albums so as long as Apple doesn't completely remove the ability to sync and store local music I'll be OK.
The vast majority of people can't. AAC has undergone extensive subjective testing, and 256 kbps is considered transparent.
 
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You consider it odd that I wouldn't want the best versions of songs and compositions I have listened to and enjoyed for two decades? How one earth do you come to the conclusion that having a library so large you could never possibly listen to it all is better than having music that you care about in the highest quality?
On the first question: When you are stating that you use said music as background music, as a timer, and not “active listening”: Yes, I find that odd. But hey, people do odd things.

The second question is a strawman, that’s not what I said at all.
 
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