No, that's not how it works. Say you want to burn a playlist of four MP3s and four AACs. Selecting the Data disc option will put all 8 on a CD (in their original formats). Choosing the MP3 CD will put the 4 MP3s on a CD and do nothing with the AACs.
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Apple Music Media Event - October 16th? [Updated]
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No, that's not how it works. Say you want to burn a playlist of four MP3s and four AACs. Selecting the Data disc option will put all 8 on a CD (in their original formats). Choosing the MP3 CD will put the 4 MP3s on a CD and do nothing with the AACs.
Pre-paid cards?
Pre-paid cards are a fine idea, but I think people are making things overly complex. Why not just modify the iTunes Music Store so it can accept Apple Gift Cards? It would be much more versatile and it would be a whole lot simpler.
Pre-paid cards are a fine idea, but I think people are making things overly complex. Why not just modify the iTunes Music Store so it can accept Apple Gift Cards? It would be much more versatile and it would be a whole lot simpler.
I beg to differ. So far the other "Music Stores" don't support the iPod. The iPod already has more the 50% of the portable music player marketshare. As long as that remains the case, as soon as Apple releases iTMS for Windows they'll get all of those customers.
Re: Pre-paid cards?
THAT is a good idea. My .mac membership is about to renew and I'm trying to decide what to make my free gift. I don't want the Sims, or Everquest, and I don't see myself making an Apple Store purchase anytime soon. But if I could take that $20 and make it an iTMS credit I'd be happy.
THAT is a good idea. My .mac membership is about to renew and I'm trying to decide what to make my free gift. I don't want the Sims, or Everquest, and I don't see myself making an Apple Store purchase anytime soon. But if I could take that $20 and make it an iTMS credit I'd be happy.
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God, I hope not. MS is going to be entering the online music store arena, and if iTMS is dependent on IE's rendering engine, I can easily see MS releasing a patch to IE that would cripple iTMS. And, of course, would MS be blamed for this? Nope. People would complain that Apple couldn't write good software.
No. I think it would be foolish for Apple to open themselves up to that kind of attack. I hope that they make iTMS self contained.
God, I hope not. MS is going to be entering the online music store arena, and if iTMS is dependent on IE's rendering engine, I can easily see MS releasing a patch to IE that would cripple iTMS. And, of course, would MS be blamed for this? Nope. People would complain that Apple couldn't write good software.
No. I think it would be foolish for Apple to open themselves up to that kind of attack. I hope that they make iTMS self contained.
Will there be a charge?
iTMS is a freebie on Mac - or else it costs $$$ and you get a free Mac with your purchase
Do you think there will be a charge for the windoze version? Or will this be a give-away, too?
iTMS is a freebie on Mac - or else it costs $$$ and you get a free Mac with your purchase
Do you think there will be a charge for the windoze version? Or will this be a give-away, too?
Re: Re: Another Nice Addition
Hmm...
Here's an interesting thought. I buy a pre-paid card and have it sent to my address. Then, I send it to my friend in Barcelona. Because the card was registered to my address (in the USA), would my friend in Barcelona now be able to use the iTMS, before iTMS-Europe is online?
Hmm...
Hmm...
Here's an interesting thought. I buy a pre-paid card and have it sent to my address. Then, I send it to my friend in Barcelona. Because the card was registered to my address (in the USA), would my friend in Barcelona now be able to use the iTMS, before iTMS-Europe is online?
Hmm...
Re: Will there be a charge?
They would be absolutly stupid to charge for iTunes. If they do then it will bomb big time. But I don't think they will.
Originally posted by yellow_lab
iTMS is a freebie on Mac - or else it costs $$$ and you get a free Mac with your purchase
Do you think there will be a charge for the windoze version? Or will this be a give-away, too?
They would be absolutly stupid to charge for iTunes. If they do then it will bomb big time. But I don't think they will.
not before 2004
definitely. A french web site (http://www.clubic.com/n/n10189.html) reports that AOL is planing to launch a "iTMS"-like system during the second semester 2004
next week AOL will launch in UK a digital radio, but nothiing related to iTMS.
definitely. A french web site (http://www.clubic.com/n/n10189.html) reports that AOL is planing to launch a "iTMS"-like system during the second semester 2004
next week AOL will launch in UK a digital radio, but nothiing related to iTMS.
Re: Re: Re: someone back me up here...
That's a good point, but still, with regards to the original question of porting Safari to Windows, if they want to avoid IE's engine, they could just use Mozilla's Gecko engine without spending a lot of time and money porting KHTML.
But who knows, maybe they have ported KHTML to Windows, due to familiarity? That means a Safari-Windows port would be easier to do, but still unnecessary and unlikely, I think.
That's a good point, but still, with regards to the original question of porting Safari to Windows, if they want to avoid IE's engine, they could just use Mozilla's Gecko engine without spending a lot of time and money porting KHTML.
But who knows, maybe they have ported KHTML to Windows, due to familiarity? That means a Safari-Windows port would be easier to do, but still unnecessary and unlikely, I think.
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But business wise it will be a really good idea for Apple!!!
imagine they get the money (pre-paid card) before you even start buying any music track on iTMS.
In addition it will be a way for Apple to "distribute iTMS" in Europe without having to negociate to deeply with European distributors.
But still I do not understand this problem in Europe.
Universal Music is the biggest Music Major , but it is a french company, so European, so whereas they had no problem to say YES to Apple for iTMS in the US; why the hell they start making a mess in Europe.
I guess yes
But business wise it will be a really good idea for Apple!!!
imagine they get the money (pre-paid card) before you even start buying any music track on iTMS.
In addition it will be a way for Apple to "distribute iTMS" in Europe without having to negociate to deeply with European distributors.
But still I do not understand this problem in Europe.
Universal Music is the biggest Music Major , but it is a french company, so European, so whereas they had no problem to say YES to Apple for iTMS in the US; why the hell they start making a mess in Europe.
Gecko engine
I seem to remember that the guy who put together the Mozilla Chimera browser moved to Apple and was instrumental in building Safari. I would have thought that pointed to a use of the Gecko engine for Windoze ITMS HTML rather that the appalling IE engine. Of course I may well be making it all up. David.....something
I seem to remember that the guy who put together the Mozilla Chimera browser moved to Apple and was instrumental in building Safari. I would have thought that pointed to a use of the Gecko engine for Windoze ITMS HTML rather that the appalling IE engine. Of course I may well be making it all up. David.....something
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If you can do that, then why couldn't you give a pre-paid card to a friend in Europe and have it work. Instead of setting up your iTMS account with a US credit card, it would be set up with a US pre-paid card number. For all intents and purposes the songs would be purchased from the US.
That's what I like about Mac users ... always thinking beyond the obvious.
Is there any reason why I couldn't "authorize" a friends computer to play my purchased songs ... even if that friend lives in Europe?
If you can do that, then why couldn't you give a pre-paid card to a friend in Europe and have it work. Instead of setting up your iTMS account with a US credit card, it would be set up with a US pre-paid card number. For all intents and purposes the songs would be purchased from the US.
That's what I like about Mac users ... always thinking beyond the obvious.
So if I try to burn a playlist that has nothing but AAC files in it, as an MP3 disc, I'll get a blank CD? Seems strange, at best. I'll have to check this out...
But iTunes already does have streaming "radio" built in and it's very easy to use. Why would they add that to the iTMS which is also built into iTunes? Maybe I misunderstood??
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I suppose you could, but that'd have to be one VERY good friend. Since your iTMS account is directly linked to your credit card, they would be able to go on a spending spree and buy as much music as they want. While I'm sure most people wouldn't screw their friends that way, I can think of some people that would. Personally I would never do something like give out my iTMS account for those very obvious reasons.
I still think the gift card idea is a great one. This is really no different than getting that gift card for Virgin MegaStore or a department store for your birthday, to go buy what you want with it. Would make an excellent stocking stuffer for teens and adults alike!
I suppose you could, but that'd have to be one VERY good friend.
Since your iTMS account is directly linked to your credit card, they would be able to go on a spending spree and buy as much music as they want. While I'm sure most people wouldn't screw their friends that way, I can think of some people that would. Personally I would never do something like give out my iTMS account for those very obvious reasons.I still think the gift card idea is a great one. This is really no different than getting that gift card for Virgin MegaStore or a department store for your birthday, to go buy what you want with it. Would make an excellent stocking stuffer for teens and adults alike!
It seems Apple is taking a page from the MS playbook here, and I couldn't be happier. It is absolutely critical that you get your products to market first. By doing so, you build a larger customer base faster and make it less beneficial for users to switch to other options. MS has done this with tons of technologies and peices of software, and it's worked every time. If people pick up the Apple music store first, it's competitors will find it harder to break into the market. This is great for Apple.
There are only two problems I see:
a) iPCTunes turns out to be slow and cumbersome on the PC platform. People don't want to use slow software, as evidenced by QuickTime PC...
b) People are forced to play music from the iTMS through iPCTunes. I don't want to play stuff through Apple's software no matter how good it it is. I want foobar2000. Apple better have something nice up their sleeves (like a system codec) to fix this potential hold-up.
I am leaning more to the side that iPCTunes will be a successful venture for Apple. I bet you they will at least make back some of the cost of development within a week or two of downloads, too
There are only two problems I see:
a) iPCTunes turns out to be slow and cumbersome on the PC platform. People don't want to use slow software, as evidenced by QuickTime PC...
b) People are forced to play music from the iTMS through iPCTunes. I don't want to play stuff through Apple's software no matter how good it it is. I want foobar2000. Apple better have something nice up their sleeves (like a system codec) to fix this potential hold-up.
I am leaning more to the side that iPCTunes will be a successful venture for Apple. I bet you they will at least make back some of the cost of development within a week or two of downloads, too
Actually I'm pretty sure you won't even get a "blank" disc... I'm pretty sure last time I tried that iTunes just said that there was nothing to burn and wouldn't burn the disc at all... so you wouldn't have a blank disc... just a "new" one...
Performance
I would be interested in seeing the performance of iTunes on a windows box. I bet it would be pretty quick, compared to my newer 12" G4 with 4K songs
I would be interested in seeing the performance of iTunes on a windows box. I bet it would be pretty quick, compared to my newer 12" G4 with 4K songs
Gah! If you are going to rip off peoples sales slogans at least quote it accurately please.
-MICROSOFT: Where do you want to go today? LINUX: Where do you want to go tomorrow? BSD: Are you guys coming or what?
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iTMS for Windows should offer nothing but AAC files.
The iPod should be able to play mp3, AAC, WFM, and every other type of audio file out there. The killer device shouldn't be completely tied to the store or it won't continue to be the killer device.
If a manufacturer comes out with a halfway decent iPod-like player that plays everything (including AAC files), and is priced less, it will be the Mac vs. Wintel story all over again...
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The iPod should be able to play mp3, AAC, WFM, and every other type of audio file out there. The killer device shouldn't be completely tied to the store or it won't continue to be the killer device.
If a manufacturer comes out with a halfway decent iPod-like player that plays everything (including AAC files), and is priced less, it will be the Mac vs. Wintel story all over again...
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That just reminded me. Didn't Universal music and NBC just merge? Or was it GE bought Universal? I haven't read too much into that deal yet. But perhaps if Universal has been bought out by an American company getting iTMS to Europe would be easier.
Then again, NBC already has partnerships with MS going...
That just reminded me. Didn't Universal music and NBC just merge? Or was it GE bought Universal? I haven't read too much into that deal yet. But perhaps if Universal has been bought out by an American company getting iTMS to Europe would be easier.
Then again, NBC already has partnerships with MS going...
In regards to the "buy later" feature....I'm not sure why the shopping cart wouldn't fill that need, unless you want to put everything you'd like to buy in the "buy later" category and periodically move some of it to the shopping cart for actual purchase.
If that's the deal, then maybe Apple could implement a wish list. They've already used Amazon's other purchase technologies, that would make sense.
I agree with the person who said there ought to be a way to track what you couldn't find. That way at the end of any given iTMS buying spree you could quickly fire off to Apple what you wanted that wasn't there.
Gift cards and pre-payment would be cool too, though for the pre-paid option you could use a pre-paid Visa like the Student Buxx thing they had a while back. The idea of that to give kids a card that worked wherever Visa was accepted, but instead of a credit limit, their parents put money on the card and could see their kids' transaction history. That's available today and could work for a prepayment solution.
If that's the deal, then maybe Apple could implement a wish list. They've already used Amazon's other purchase technologies, that would make sense.
I agree with the person who said there ought to be a way to track what you couldn't find. That way at the end of any given iTMS buying spree you could quickly fire off to Apple what you wanted that wasn't there.
Gift cards and pre-payment would be cool too, though for the pre-paid option you could use a pre-paid Visa like the Student Buxx thing they had a while back. The idea of that to give kids a card that worked wherever Visa was accepted, but instead of a credit limit, their parents put money on the card and could see their kids' transaction history. That's available today and could work for a prepayment solution.