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Because you can't listen to a specific song or album with radio. Why would I sit there and listen to randomly generated songs when I can listen to exactly what I want to listen to? Radio is fine for background noise, but paying 10 bucks a month to listen to exactly what I want to hear when I want to hear it is well worth the minimal cost.


If you use iTunes gift cards from Costco and pay for an annual subscription it's only about $7 a month.:)
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It's even better than that. The $99 Apple Music annual subscription works out to $8.25 per month.

If you fund it with discounted iTunes gift cards from Costco (at $94 for a $100 card), that drops to $7.83 per month.

Occasionally Costco offers iTunes cards at $85 for a $100 card, yielding an Apple Music cost of $7.08 per month. A bargain...


Plus, I think apple gave a free month on annual renewals
 
I don't use music streaming service, but this is such a huge number especially for those who were preaching the Apple Apocalypse on how bad Apple Music was compared to Spotify.
 
I was an avid Spotify fan for years, but for the last year or so Spotify have let me down. Seems to me that everytime the Spotify UI is updated, it's for the worse.

1. The last few updates have made it harder to browse the discography of an artist, and instead focus on the most popular singles and 'suggested' albums.
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You seem to be implying that it is not easy to browse an artist's discography in Spotify. That is not the case. Certainly not with Android or Windows. It is very simple and easy.

Edit: simple, easy and quick
 
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Love AM Family Membership subscription here. Playback via cans on iPhone & iPad, CarPlay in the car, SONOS in kitchen & bedroom and AirPlay2 to the AVR in the lounge.

Love that I’ve been able to merge my music that isn’t available on AM to iCloud Music Library (CD rips from super deluxe boxsets, Beatles in Mono etc). Love having my music on demand at work, home and anywhere & everywhere else.

Love the Deutschland Grammophon classical curated playlists, through which I’ve discovered so much great music including the great Herbert Von Karajan.

With a couple years worth of Like/Dislike tagging, For You routinely surfaces music that really does appeal to me. Only downside is the Browse tab where I have to scroll through the latest releases of stuff that really is of no interest to get to the Genres sections.

Before signing up with AM, I was a Spotify customer. Both remain great services, with the upper hand being gained on secondary features depending on what one is after. Compared to my historic monthly spend on CDs and iTunes downloads, the £14.99 monthly Family membership continues to be an absolute steal for me.

Glad to hear the subscriber numbers for both services continue to climb upwards. My younger self in the late 80s/early 90s would have paid handsomely for the then equivalent of having unfettered after hours access to the entirely of the local records shops.

Apple should fix the music player in iOS. The basic usability has decreased. These are what mainly bugs me:

-When you select some song, you can't easily see the song list of the full album (remember when you did see those by just tapping the cover?)
-You can't go to the artists "home directory" from the song you are currently playing to see the other albums. You have to browse from the start.. Artist -> Albums ... that's slow! (Unless you just have browsed and it hasn't forgot what you did)
-When I have searched some album and started listening it in my car and next time I go to my car the phone has forgot the steps I took to find the album. It only shows the song I played last time. So, again I have to browse and search the album from the beginning

No matter where I have searched some song or started to play it, it should be easy to see the other songs from that album and to see other albums of the artist!

If you tap the scrolling red Artist - Album scroll underneath the track title in the iOS Music app, you get a pop-up menu that includes Go to Artist, Go to Album and Go to Playlist (the latter appears if the track has been played as part of a playlist.
 
After originally being a Spotify user, I’m actually almost fully converted to Apple Music. I find it easier to discover content and I much prefer the design — the Browse page is great and the integration with HomePod is second to none.
 
I don't use music streaming service, but this is such a huge number especially for those who were preaching the Apple Apocalypse on how bad Apple Music was compared to Spotify.

I don’t think the numbers are bad, but it remains to be seen how it grows and how it converts. I think most people that would subscribe to a music streaming service have already done so.

60M is simply based on Eddy Cue saying that’s the number. He could’ve rounded up, grabbed a snapshot, or just estimated. We also don’t know if his numbers include the dreaded trials.

Spotify is at 100M, which means Apple theoretically would need to convert 20M Spotify users to be en par. It sounds like they need to convert or obtain users globally to reach that point.

Anecdotally, everyone I know who are US or non US are on Spotify. So I am skeptical on their growth trajectory.
 
Quoting random unsubstantiated figures is always fun

Quoting a post with a random comment without trying to understand the numbers behind it is always fun.

What’s $9.99 X 60 Million? Hint: ~$600 Million.

And that’s lowballing because I’m not even counting family plans.

Beats was valued at $1B by Forbes and had revenue of $1.5 Billion in 2013, the final complete year before Apple acquired them. It’s gotten even bigger now. Again, I’m still lowballing.
 
Not even remotely close. And I say that as someone who has an 82K+ iTunes library.

True. But we just don’t need it. Even less when HomePods will be radio enabled with next OS update. Looking forward to this, especially as it will caught a lot of people by surprise as it was not reported by most media.
 
Quoting a post with a random comment without trying to understand the numbers behind it is always fun.

What’s $9.99 X 60 Million? Hint: ~$600 Million.

And that’s lowballing because I’m not even counting family plans.

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Wouldn't users on family plans reduce average revenue per user?
 
Wouldn't users on family plans reduce average revenue per user?

Yes, likewise student memberships. A recent Engadget article says:

Complicating the matter is a bit of complexity relating to how discounted student and family subscriptions are treated under the new revenue plan. Music Business Worldwide reports that the agreement requires family plans to be counted as 1.5 subscribers per month and student to be counted as 0.5 subscribers per month

Not sure if this method of recognising subscriber numbers is true across all streaming providers (inc Apple) or if it is just specific to Spotify.
 
I said earlier Apple Music is improving (and I stand-by that), and I've now moved to AM from Spotify, but here's another thing they need to improve on - release dates worldwide. New Black Keys album was released world wide today, but Apple Music still says "Unavailable in your region" when I try to download it. But if I tape the album strip just under the artist banner, it takes me to what is presumably the US release, and it streams that (but won't download it).

It was a single release day worldwide, and once again Apple Music has not rolled it out smoothly. Spotify has. I still prefer Apple Music over Spotify, but I feel like these sort of silly things shouldn't be happening.
 
I don’t think the numbers are bad, but it remains to be seen how it grows and how it converts. I think most people that would subscribe to a music streaming service have already done so.

60M is simply based on Eddy Cue saying that’s the number. He could’ve rounded up, grabbed a snapshot, or just estimated. We also don’t know if his numbers include the dreaded trials.

Spotify is at 100M, which means Apple theoretically would need to convert 20M Spotify users to be en par. It sounds like they need to convert or obtain users globally to reach that point.

Anecdotally, everyone I know who are US or non US are on Spotify. So I am skeptical on their growth trajectory.

Skeptical of what Cue says but taking Spotify at their word as to subscribers? Hypocrisy at its finest.

You realize Spotify subs are handed out like candy, right. I think the last toaster oven I bought came with a free Spotify trial.
 
Skeptical of what Cue says but taking Spotify at their word as to subscribers? Hypocrisy at its finest.

You realize Spotify subs are handed out like candy, right. I think the last toaster oven I bought came with a free Spotify trial.

I am skeptical of Spotify too with their numbers. I just didn't say it in my post because that was irrelevant of the point I was making.

I know neither can be trusted at face value. Do you?
 
No, because Apple Music has 60 Million subscribers, not users.
I had a 6 month no cost subscription to Apple Music with my EE plan. I also had a 6 month free trial of BT Sport casting. In my account Apple Music was described as a "subscription" BT Sportcasting was described as a "free trial".
 
I am skeptical of Spotify too with their numbers. I just didn't say it in my post because that was irrelevant of the point I was making.

I know neither can be trusted at face value. Do you?

I don’t trust Spotify because Daniel Ek is a known liar and whiner. I trust Apple because I have never seen them lie when reporting actual figures (whatever they’re reporting on).
 
I am skeptical of Spotify too with their numbers. I just didn't say it in my post because that was irrelevant of the point I was making.

I know neither can be trusted at face value. Do you?

Well, if a key executive in either case is caught lying public ally to shareholders, and they know the company’s liability is pretty bad, there’s a pretty good bet they’re not lying at all. So there’s that.
 
Well, if a key executive in either case is caught lying public ally to shareholders, and they know the company’s liability is pretty bad, there’s a pretty good bet they’re not lying at all. So there’s that.

It’s not a lie if you are telling the “truth”.
 
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