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Apple Music Sing Limited to Latest Apple TV, Not Coming to Older Models
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I'm just saying that we don't know why it isn't supported on older equipment. Does't Apple make money from subs to Apple Music? Adding this feature to Apple Music may increase subscriptions. Perhaps more so that forcing sales of the newest Apple TV. We have to wait for more information to know the reason/motivations for not including it with older devices.
But here on MR, there is simply so much Apple hate that I envision tons of posters just chomping at the bit for an opportunity to spread Apple hate regardless of reality or facts. It makes reading the responses a waste of time. I'm almost ready to stop. There is no useful information. No knowledge. Just hate and more hate for Apple.
Yes I saw that “compatible” at the end of press announcements, still it’s unusually vague of Apple once again, like when stage manager was introduced.
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I remember some Wii game that you could dance and sing, and it would even score you on how close you were to the lyrics and pitch. I might upgrade if it were like that.
This seems tone deaf, like much of the karaoke singing it is intended to inspire. Unimaginable that the old 4K is processor bound to display syncopated lyrics, though the mix matching might require a little more horsepower. They might have at least considered a holiday "lite" version for older processors. Hey Apple, less Scrooge, more celebration!
This is an embarrassing attempt at a money grab from Apple
Nothing -- nothing -- about this feature should necessitate locking it to only brand new Apple TVs
Nothing -- nothing -- about this feature should necessitate locking it to only brand new Apple TVs
Just pass on the feature and upgrade when you need to
We've got to all stop just capitulating to these ridiculous extortion moves from Apple
Seems like there's a lot of back and forth on whether older AppleTV could support this new service. Also, there's talk about what processing is needed for this service - possibly removing original vocals through ML in real time? I guess I'm wondering what will be used for microphones. It will support multiple singers. What are they using....their iPhones? Maybe the real time removal of lyrics combined with the connectivity of multiple iPhones as microphones is the reason for having the latest AppleTV?
Still not fixing the problem with lossless not supporting hi res. That’s all that matters to me. I am going to keep talking about this until Apple fixes it.
So my 2021 gen 4k ATV can play loads of Apple Arcade games, playback near 100mbit remuxes via Infuse, but can't run this? Feels like a very Apple move. I did invest in a 2022 ATV, but I can't say I'll ever use this.
But truly, how many people were invested in living room karaoke solutions that also have an older ATV, that would be upset over this?
But truly, how many people were invested in living room karaoke solutions that also have an older ATV, that would be upset over this?
I don’t think so. As a recording artist / composer for the past 31 years. I can tell you that the processing power required to properly isolate vocal tracks or even generate stems of each major section of the music (percussion, harmony, background vocals etc.) and leave the rest of the bits in a decent state requires considerable processing. Far more than the chips are capable of “on the fly”. I would sooner believe the tracks are being served up in a stem separated state and that the processing being done is simply level adjustments.
Still that is more than the current music player is doing so maybe it does indeed run better on the latest gen Apple TV.
But given I’ve been writing a lot of multitrack pieces with virtual instruments on iPads and iPad pros for years…. I highly doubt this was technically infeasible to adapt to the older hardware.
I'm not sure I would use this much, but it's disappointing if it won't run on the AppleTV 4K I bought a few months ago. I'm not yet convinced it won't.
My daughter would absolutely love this as would most of my family. So it’s a plus that it’s not coming to my 4k21! An upgrade isn’t really worth it as my lg c1 doesn’t support hdr10+
But if the A13 and the 3GB of RAM on the iPhone 11 is the bare minimum… why limit it to the M1 iPad Pro (the third gen 11” iPP) and up? What about an iPad 9th gen with an A13?
Two Words: Neural Engine.
Yes, unfortunately it’s hardware limitation of Apple Silicon.
Like Face ID with mask that requires A14 or higher due to complex machine learning, Apple Music Sing is going use similar technology to recognize the vocal pitch and speech recognition of the singer.
This means unfortunately some of iOS and iPadOS will not get this feature also, specifically ones with A12 chip or earlier. There is not enough computational power on that chip. And Intel Macs are completely shut out since it requires Apple Silicon chip.
No it isn’t. Apple has a history of restricting software features for no reason to certain models. It forces consumers who have already purchased a capable device to toss it out and buy the latest shiny
I guess, it’s not like you can’t just screen mirror your phone to your Apple TV and use the lyrics on Apple Music.
