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I plug my phone into my Hyundai and guess what right on the car screen I can use Amazon Music or my personal Plex library. Wow. I don't have to pay Hyundai?

I bought my daughters 2 loaded, 2022 Hyundai Konas this year. Bluelink comes included for 2 years (I think) but then you have to pay for it (and I will). I've owned my Model S for 7 years and I don't have to pay Tesla to use the app to control my car. I think you're going to find an increase over time of the paid services offered (required?) by car manufacturers, all in the name of "value add". I also had to pay Acura for a software update in my 2018 MDX. I've never paid Tesla for updates. I'm not here to defend Tesla, but let's be real about what other manufacturers do and do not charge for. Lastly, the TCO of my Model S compared to the high end BMWs I owned previously is dramatically lower.
 
Cool cool so you can listen to your playlist when the batteries catch fire and the car explodes.

I suggest a Prodigy playlist with the song ‘Firestarter’ at number one.
Curious: do people actually believe this myth or is it just supposed to be clever? Fires in teslas (and most EVs, although the Chevy Bolt did have a real problem) are exceedingly rare, and when they occur, it’s almost always because some external object has punctured the battery, as could happen in a severe crash. Gas cars burn much more easily and regularly.

 


Car manufacturer Tesla today rolled out a holiday software update that introduces support for Apple Music. According to reports on Twitter, the 2022.44.25 update allows Tesla owners to access their Apple Music accounts directly in their cars.

Stream over 100 million songs and 30,000 playlists ad-free. Listen to your entire library, discover new music, and tune into live radio stations. To access Apple Music, tap the Apple Music icon in the Application Launcher, scan the QR code with your mobile device, and login with your Apple ID.

Note: A Premium Connectivity subscription is required to stream Apple Music over a cellular connection.

Added as an app in the Tesla software so you need to pay Tesla the subscription for whatever the hell "premium connectivity" actually gets you.
 
Curious: do people actually believe this myth or is it just supposed to be clever? Fires in teslas (and most EVs, although the Chevy Bolt did have a real problem) are exceedingly rare, and when they occur, it’s almost always because some external object has punctured the battery, as could happen in a severe crash. Gas cars burn much more easily and regularly.


Chill. They are Panasonic batteries. Space Karen Qelon didn’t invent them.

Batteries are fragile components, they overheat, they deplete over time, they are very toxic to dispose of. We know what batteries are. They aren’t a new thing.

If there were as many battery based cars as gas based cars it would be really much clearer.

Hydrogen is the better solution.
 
As much as Tesla's ahead of everyone else in the car industry, not having Apple Music, CarPlay and Android Auto kinda feels backwards, no matter how good and technological the interface is.
Agree. It’s an irritating omission.

The Tesla interface looks pretty but is lacking both in usability and functionality. Unfortunately whilst “influencers” continue to fawn over it they have no motivation to improve.

Still, it’s a great car.
 
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I don’t have a Tesla, but just out of curiosity, rather than paying for premium connectivity, can you just hotspot your phone? Or is that not a thing in Tesla’s?

This is why lack of Carplay and Teslas in general are a Joke. Any other car can stream music and use the infotainment system linked to your phone. Telsa wants you to pay for what you already have in your hand right now and a cellular plan. They want you to use their own tablet with cellular to play in their "walled garden" (sounds familiar).

They are solving for something that's not a problem. Already have my phone, cellualr plan, and apps/app-subscriptions. Just need the car to interface with it. I do not need another tablet with another cellular plan and appstore which is basically what a Tesla infotainment system is.

Yes you can bluetooth and buy a mount for your phone that you hope its good enough not to get a ticket. Alternatively, just go with a car company that leverages what you already pay for and lets your use the apps you already have.

I plug my phone into my Hyundai and guess what right on the car screen I can use Amazon Music or my personal Plex library. Wow. I don't have to pay Hyundai? Amazing. Like I said Tesla talks a pretty big game considering they are 1000x worse than Apple in my book. Paying an insane amount of money for a car that forces you to pay monthly to use things sitting in your pocket already being paid for. There is zero technical reason for it. We have seen third parties implement it. They want the same money they call out Apple for taking.

Literally why other car manufactures bailed on custom infotainment systems and just added carplay/android auto. Customers don't want to buy what they already have.


To actually answer the question you replied to, yes, you can just hotspot your phone and not pay Tesla $10 a month for a cellular plan. Also, every other car also charges you. ****. My Hyundai Bluelink is $300 a year and can’t do half of the stuff Tesla can.
 
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I haven’t missed Apple Music in any of my Tesla’s but I’ll take it. Personally I am more excited for the other items in the 2022 holiday update. Love this time of year for my Tesla!!
 
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Chill. They are Panasonic batteries. Space Karen Qelon didn’t invent them.

Batteries are fragile components, they overheat, they deplete over time, they are very toxic to dispose of. We know what batteries are. They aren’t a new thing.

If there were as many battery based cars as gas based cars it would be really much clearer.

Hydrogen is the better solution.
None of that has anything to do with what I posted. The question is, do you think batteries (in teslas or otherwise) just randomly explode? (They don’t)

As for the rate of fires, there are more than enough BEVs to answer the question. And that answer is, ICE cars catch fire at a much, MUCH higher rate than BEVs.

As for hydrogen, LOL. Not even Toyota is seriously pursuing that anymore. BEVs are the future, and increasingly the present, also.
 
I created a whole workflow to download Podcasts from YouTube and I copy them to a USB thumb drive. I thought that was a big brain move but Tesla's built-in media player sucks so bad it doesn't even go back to USB media playback, it just assumes you want to stream. It has no +-30 skip, it doesn't remember location and they took away timestamps from playback.

The whole streaming system is so second rate and they just keep telling us about new games.
I agree--enough with the games and streaming TV. Fix the audio options.
 
The only thing premium inside a Tesla is the sense of entitlement of the driver. Everything else eventually rattles like a tin can full of coins.
Exaggerated, but some truth to it. The drivers all love their cars though. On the upside you can take a chance on an American car and be no better off other than they have been building cars with these issues since the 70’s.
 
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I guess that makes CarPlay less of a need on a Tesla. I don't currently own one but if anyone does, can you tell me if they have the ability to read/compose texts by voice?
 
I guess that makes CarPlay less of a need on a Tesla. I don't currently own one but if anyone does, can you tell me if they have the ability to read/compose texts by voice?

Yes you can. It's decent, but not perfect, especially on group texts. At least for me, if I reply to a group text from my Model S it will text that person individually, not the group it came from. If you're in the Apple ecosystem as we are, CarPlay is superior here. I would assume Android Auto is superior to Tesla texting as well, but I have no experience with it.

Tangentially, it's convenient to control more of your vehicle with voice in a Tesla. Sometimes I'm a little surprised what you can't control with voice though.
 
This is why lack of Carplay and Teslas in general are a Joke. Any other car can stream music and use the infotainment system linked to your phone. Telsa wants you to pay for what you already have in your hand right now and a cellular plan. They want you to use their own tablet with cellular to play in their "walled garden" (sounds familiar).

They are solving for something that's not a problem. Already have my phone, cellualr plan, and apps/app-subscriptions. Just need the car to interface with it. I do not need another tablet with another cellular plan and appstore which is basically what a Tesla infotainment system is.

Yes you can bluetooth and buy a mount for your phone that you hope its good enough not to get a ticket. Alternatively, just go with a car company that leverages what you already pay for and lets your use the apps you already have.

I plug my phone into my Hyundai and guess what right on the car screen I can use Amazon Music or my personal Plex library. Wow. I don't have to pay Hyundai? Amazing. Like I said Tesla talks a pretty big game considering they are 1000x worse than Apple in my book. Paying an insane amount of money for a car that forces you to pay monthly to use things sitting in your pocket already being paid for. There is zero technical reason for it. We have seen third parties implement it. They want the same money they call out Apple for taking.

Literally why other car manufactures bailed on custom infotainment systems and just added carplay/android auto. Customers don't want to buy what they already have.
You do realise that the monthly payment is for CONNECTIVITY, right?

Like you don’t pay for an iPhone once-off and expect calls/texts/5G to work without paying for a cellular plan?

As others have said, you can hotspot your phone if you don’t want to pay for it.
 
You do realise that the monthly payment is for CONNECTIVITY, right?

Like you don’t pay for an iPhone once-off and expect calls/texts/5G to work without paying for a cellular plan?

As others have said, you can hotspot your phone if you don’t want to pay for it.
At $100/year, it's a damn bargain.

Glad we got the "good" Apple software and not the CarPlay BS. Halfassed cell phone interface. Call me when it can handle lists.
 
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it seems they've taken the lazy way out and used web services for this similar to zoom. this means lossless isn't an option.
with the amazing speakers and hardware in their premium audio option in their vehicles, this doesn't live up to what it could've been, and definitely doesn't take years to develop integration based on web service.
That is too bad. I was so excited for this. So, it will not be as good as Tidal’s HiFi, which what I have been using in my refresh Model S until it got Apple Music?
 
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Chill. They are Panasonic batteries. Space Karen Qelon didn’t invent them.

Batteries are fragile components, they overheat, they deplete over time, they are very toxic to dispose of. We know what batteries are. They aren’t a new thing.

If there were as many battery based cars as gas based cars it would be really much clearer.

Hydrogen is the better solution.
Are you speaking from experience because you already drive a fuel cell hydrogen car? 😉
 
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Tesla people are funny. The rest of us have cars where the manufacturer doesn’t try to tell you what you can do. I had Apple Music on in my car from the first day it was available. But my car has CarPlay.

Apple Music has worked since the day it launched via Bluetooth. Will be nice to have it native and use the car’s LTE connectivity instead of my phone’s. That’s the major difference now.

CarPlay sucks. It’s a hack around the garbage interfaces most car companies stick you with, which are absolutely abhorrent.
 
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