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I guess everyone has their preferences. But I find it hard to believe that anyone would prefer the interface of some other EVs out there. I mean some of the ones I have seen are so un-intuitive, archaic and just messy.... Tesla is by far the most superior imo... It's not perfect like everything else, but its soooo much better than anything else in the car industry. But to each their own I guess.
I mean my CRV doesn't have the best interface for infotainment, but I don't use it... I use CarPlay.

For everything else, my CRV uses actual physical buttons which, for a car, are far far far superior than swiping on a tablet to open up the HVAC settings, missing your target, and sending the map careening into the neighboring state.
 
The only thing premium inside a Tesla is the sense of entitlement of the driver. Everything else eventually rattles like a tin can full of coins.

Edit: This post made it super easy to spot the Tesla fan boys on this site. You guys are hilarious. 👎 all you want, ignore those rattles... you know they are there and well documented all across the internet.

Tesla is the ultimate brother-in-law car. I should know. My BIL has one.
 
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I mean my CRV doesn't have the best interface for infotainment, but I don't use it... I use CarPlay.

For everything else, my CRV uses actual physical buttons which, for a car, are far far far superior than swiping on a tablet to open up the HVAC settings, missing your target, and sending the map careening into the neighboring state.
again that is hyperbole... different strokes for different folks... My parents like their physical buttons because that's what they grew up with.... I prefer the nice clean look of having everything on screen... It's actually one of the things that drew me to a Tesla. I have no problem controlling every aspect of the car on screen and with buttons on the steering wheel... I find it easier and more intuitive. But I can agree that it's not everyone's cup of tea I get it. But saying that you're going to send your careening because you miss a command is really silly... if you don't know how to use it or refuse to change your ways that's different.
 
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Seriously, in a moving car with external noise and road noise, why do people actually pretend they can tell the difference between good compression and lossless? You're really reaching for something to complain about.
I don't know if you have a tesla but you don't hear much in EV other then the sound of the tires. the windows are double-panel. with 18 speakers you will notice the difference in encoding and channels
 
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I mean my CRV doesn't have the best interface for infotainment, but I don't use it... I use CarPlay.

For everything else, my CRV uses actual physical buttons which, for a car, are far far far superior than swiping on a tablet to open up the HVAC settings, missing your target, and sending the map careening into the neighboring state.

This has literally never happened to me. Far easier to navigate the UI once you memorize it vs a ton of physical buttons. It’s second nature. I’m also not one to constantly change settings so it’s not a big deal to me. I leave most things on auto and never change them. Tesla’s UI isn’t for everyone though, that’s understandable.
 
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it seems they've taken the lazy way out and used web services for this similar to zoom. this means lossless isn't an option.
with the amazing speakers and hardware in their premium audio option in their vehicles, this doesn't live up to what it could've been, and definitely doesn't take years to develop integration based on web service.
Sounds like par for the course for Tesla.
 
Honestly I don't see how lossless would be useful here. They have good audio hardware, but we're still talking about a car with a lot of ambiant noises.
You're thinking of the sound floor of lossless more than the ceiling, which is noticeable even in a noisy car with crappy hardware. Cymbals that sound like they're inside of a soda can will sound that way anywhere.
 
The bigger deal with this update is that it includes the ability to install and run software from Steam.

Which means Tesla’s OS is suddenly better for games and entertainment than iOS. It also means it’s vastly more flexible, with no arbitrary gatekeeper on what software can and can’t run on the system.

It’s an interesting move and I think it lays an important bit of groundwork for building a phone to beat the iPhone and Android.

(Speaking of which… why can’t you install games from Steam on Android? Is the hardware just too varied for it to be worth the effort or something?)
 
This has literally never happened to me. Far easier to navigate the UI once you memorize it vs a ton of physical buttons. It’s second nature. I’m also not one to constantly change settings so it’s not a big deal to me. I leave most things on auto and never change them. Tesla’s UI isn’t for everyone though, that’s understandable.

You just have to learn to let it die. The biggest haters of Tesla are people who have never even been-in/driven one.

I'll stick to Spotify simply because podcast are baked into the app.
 
Clearly you don’t own a Tesla. There’s no App Store, and you don’t have to pay a penny for maps, ever. You can also stream your current Apple Music app via BT to Tesla, complete with artwork. This latest update is just giving you a native app. It’s possible you can hotspot your phone to use it (like you can with every other app available) but that’s not clear as of yet.

Also, Tesla’s UI is light years ahead of CarPlay. The iPhone is built for Apple’s software in the same way the software in a Tesla is tailor made for it. That’s why pretty much every implementation of CarPlay is tacked on and not purpose built. We’ll see when the holistic approach to CarPlay actually hits vehicles with full integration. Until then, Tesla UI is miles better than CarPlay.
Ok show me using Amazon Music/Plex from your miles better Tesla interface.

You can't? Until Tesla offers every service a cellphone does it's not to any stretch of the imagination better.

As I said you are paying to play in their limited sandbox. They encourage you to use the streaming apps they support.

Keep saying its miles better while I enjoy Plex and Amazon music from my car.
 
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This is exactly what Elon and Tim discussed during their Apple Park meeting.

Tim: “We love to see Apple Music on our customers Teslas!”

Elon: “Sure, as long as Twitter doesn’t get kicked from the AppStore.”

Tim: “Deal”

Elon: “Okay. Now let me take a video of Apple’s beautiful HQ”

End of story. ✌🏼
 
Ok show me using Amazon Music/Plex from your miles better Tesla interface.

You can't? Until Tesla offers every service a cellphone does it's not to any stretch of the imagination better.

As I said you are paying to play in their limited sandbox. They encourage you to use the streaming apps they support.

Keep saying its miles better while I enjoy Plex and Amazon music from my car.
Plex? Seriously? That’s probably like 0.0001% of the driving population.
 
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I was anti any car without CarPlay until I got my Tesla about 8 days ago. The only reason I went with Tesla, nothing else is really appealing in the market. I was so concerned about CarPlay. I am pleased to say the implementation of Tesla OS or whatever is called is spot on. The only thing I miss is Waze, unless there is dire traffic I wont miss it. For this I bought a phone holder.

Really impressed with what Tesla have done, can't believe I am find without CarPlay. Plus I prefer it, I am not always responding to messages. Nice disconnect time.

I had to get rid of my Tesla because of quality issues, but I truly miss the infotainment system. I have a Genesis GV60 now and even though CarPlay is great, I still feel the Tesla system is much better. Especially when you look at the entire eco system including how good their app is.
 
The only thing premium inside a Tesla is the sense of entitlement of the driver. Everything else eventually rattles like a tin can full of coins.
No joke. If you can't come off your bucks to license CarPlay, what makes a Tesla driver think there's anything resembling Bowers & Wilkins in those doors, let alone Bose.
 
I had to get rid of my Tesla because of quality issues, but I truly miss the infotainment system. I have a Genesis GV60 now and even though CarPlay is great, I still feel the Tesla system is much better. Especially when you look at the entire eco system including how good their app is.

I like CarPlay and it is always getting better, but the best way I can describe the interface is childish compared to Tesla's. I don't mean that in a bad way, it's just not pretty.
 
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No joke. If you can't come off your bucks to license CarPlay, what makes a Tesla driver think there's anything resembling Bowers & Wilkins in those doors, let alone Bose.

quick google search. It's all in house. Also, I wouldn't put Bose near the quality of B&W.

Tesla hired engineers working for Bang and Olufsen company to set up the audio system in some of the Tesla models. Widely known, the Bang and Olufsen company produces almost the best high-fidelity audio system in the world.

Again, I don't think anyone that has been in a Tesla would question the audio for a second. It's phenomenal.
 
quick google search. It's all in house. Also, I wouldn't put Bose near the quality of B&W.

Tesla hired engineers working for Bang and Olufsen company to set up the audio system in some of the Tesla models. Widely known, the Bang and Olufsen company produces almost the best high-fidelity audio system in the world.

Again, I don't think anyone that has been in a Tesla would question the audio for a second. It's phenomenal.
Not that I want to knock Tesla as I own one and it’s a truly fantastic car, but the audio is pretty average. The source quality lets it down too, not having a direct wired connection and Spotify bitrate being hobbled.

Looking forward to trying the new Lotus EV with KEF speakers.
 
Not that I want to knock Tesla as I own one and it’s a truly fantastic car, but the audio is pretty average. The source quality lets it down too, not having a direct wired connection and Spotify bitrate being hobbled.

Looking forward to trying the new Lotus EV with KEF speakers.

Completely agree about the sources feeding the audio being lackluster. KEF makes excellent speakers. I haven't heard Volvo's B&W speakers, but those also seem really nice.
 
This is why lack of Carplay and Teslas in general are a Joke. Any other car can stream music and use the infotainment system linked to your phone. Telsa wants you to pay for what you already have in your hand right now and a cellular plan. They want you to use their own tablet with cellular to play in their "walled garden" (sounds familiar).

They are solving for something that's not a problem. Already have my phone, cellualr plan, and apps/app-subscriptions. Just need the car to interface with it. I do not need another tablet with another cellular plan and appstore which is basically what a Tesla infotainment system is.

Yes you can bluetooth and buy a mount for your phone that you hope its good enough not to get a ticket. Alternatively, just go with a car company that leverages what you already pay for and lets your use the apps you already have.

I plug my phone into my Hyundai and guess what right on the car screen I can use Amazon Music or my personal Plex library. Wow. I don't have to pay Hyundai? Amazing. Like I said Tesla talks a pretty big game considering they are 1000x worse than Apple in my book. Paying an insane amount of money for a car that forces you to pay monthly to use things sitting in your pocket already being paid for. There is zero technical reason for it. We have seen third parties implement it. They want the same money they call out Apple for taking.

Literally why other car manufactures bailed on custom infotainment systems and just added carplay/android auto. Customers don't want to buy what they already have.
Tell me you don’t own a Tesla without saying you don’t own a Tesla🙄
 
i love how that person is thanking Elon when he has absolutely nothing to do with the development of these vehicles
 
Didn’t offend me. I will say my previous car was a Range Rover Velar and it rattled more than my Tesla, and the turbo died after 6 months and had to be replaced. I exclusively bought European cars prior to this and I became very used to having loaner vehicles while they were in the shop. My friends Volvo S60 is in the shop literally once a month continuing the trend. And these were all brand new vehicles. My Tesla has had zero issues in 2.5 years, and zero maintenance costs…so I’m pretty content. I still think I’ll be enamored by the Macan EV when it comes out though, and likely switch back.
Well that's typical Range Rovers. I bought a 4.6 HSE back in the day from Lookers (bastards they are). Bloody awful thing. Nothing but trouble. If you hit the brakes too hard the headlights would go out! (ABS caused the electrics to brown out)

I found buying mass produced mid range garbage with average features is what you need if you want a reliable car. Nothing fancy.
 
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