Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple NAB Announcements?
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
ddub said:I know we are more likely to see dual-core processors put to use in the Power Macs if they were released at WWDC. However, it seems as though we might be seeing new PMs at NAB. I received an e-mail from an Apple rep for education - the PM prices have dropped significantly "for this week only".
Single 1.8: $1199
Dual 1.8: $1599
Dual 2.0: $1999
Dual 2.5: $2299
Trying to clear out inventory? Just that I'd pass this tidbit along...
I just checked the Apple Educational Store. The prices are still at the original price. Does a person need to contact an educational representative by phone? Certainly sounds like like Apple might be getting ready for the next Rev.
I think Apple might stay away from the Mac 3D market only for the fact that there are already many companies competing. I feel Apple's products are in response to weaknesses they perceive in a particular market. Unless Apple has some user interface that goes so far beyond what everyone else out there is doing, I don't see the need.
We need to get Ed Catmull to talk about this.
We need to get Ed Catmull to talk about this.
Sunrunner said:
Possible PM Upgrades
Hey Guys,
I've just been skimming over this thread and I may have missed someone posting about the drives in the G5s.
Would it be at least somewhat conclusive to say that they would be upgrading the superdrives to the ones that are now in the PBs? The DVD +/-R; CD+/-Rs?
Unless it may be more cost effective to take advantage of the price drops and just upgrade the drives itself?
Thanks all!!
Hey Guys,
I've just been skimming over this thread and I may have missed someone posting about the drives in the G5s.
Would it be at least somewhat conclusive to say that they would be upgrading the superdrives to the ones that are now in the PBs? The DVD +/-R; CD+/-Rs?
Unless it may be more cost effective to take advantage of the price drops and just upgrade the drives itself?
Thanks all!!
I'm starting to thing that a new version of QuickTime (under Tiger) will be the sleeper here. Moving to HD support, with the Apple pro apps supporting it. Throw in the visit of Sony's CEO at the MWSF last January as a not so subtle hint and you have some major directions for Apple in the NAB market. For those delivering content HD QT on Apple servers are going to be very powerful and I feel this is the direction Apple will be taking. Other boxes that might show up? A PM maybe, but I think that APple will hold that until WWDC.
Pro Tools is a good application but the Native competition is beginning to improve at far lower price points.
When you look at the last Logic Pro upgrade it wasn't significant in many ways. It added support for Apple Loops and added more plugins but it's what "didn't" happen that should be suprising people.
Logic Pro got no closer to being a peer app amongst Apple's Pro application workflow. Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro don't talk together in any special way other than standardized import/export options.
Where I think Apple Pro apps are headed is excellent integration.
I'd expect to see that in a couple of years.
There will be a bundled suite of applications that are licensed together with one serial number. You will have something like
Final Cut Pro 7
Motion Pro 2.0
Shake 6
DVD Studio Pro 5.0
XXXX 2.0(3D app)
ProBand DAW
All these applications will function like one large app with transparent file exchange and support for the same Media Manager. It's gonna rock!
When you look at the last Logic Pro upgrade it wasn't significant in many ways. It added support for Apple Loops and added more plugins but it's what "didn't" happen that should be suprising people.
Logic Pro got no closer to being a peer app amongst Apple's Pro application workflow. Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro don't talk together in any special way other than standardized import/export options.
Where I think Apple Pro apps are headed is excellent integration.
I'd expect to see that in a couple of years.
There will be a bundled suite of applications that are licensed together with one serial number. You will have something like
Final Cut Pro 7
Motion Pro 2.0
Shake 6
DVD Studio Pro 5.0
XXXX 2.0(3D app)
ProBand DAW
All these applications will function like one large app with transparent file exchange and support for the same Media Manager. It's gonna rock!
Looking for a sub-$2,000 dual 2.0 G% with 8 DIMM slots.
Pretty please, Steve?
I might even sell my 20" ACD and get a 23" if you do it.
Pretty please, Steve?
I might even sell my 20" ACD and get a 23" if you do it.
FCP 5 Features
It's very possible that I missed a post as I waded through the 5 pages (so far) of this topic, but...
No one has mentioned the possibility of multi-cam support for FCP 5. That's a big piece missing from the current offering. If you do multi-cam, you just can't use FCP at all... no choice.
I agree with others that these improvements are needed:
And for an added bonus, how about the option to open a sequence without loading the whole darn thing? Ever tried to open a long complicated sequence? It takes forever...
Better integration with Motion would be nice. I'd like to click a button that sends me from Motion to see the updates in FCP.
It's very possible that I missed a post as I waded through the 5 pages (so far) of this topic, but...
No one has mentioned the possibility of multi-cam support for FCP 5. That's a big piece missing from the current offering. If you do multi-cam, you just can't use FCP at all... no choice.
I agree with others that these improvements are needed:
- better, more reliable media manager
- extensibility
- real-time capabilities/rendering improvements (background?)
And for an added bonus, how about the option to open a sequence without loading the whole darn thing? Ever tried to open a long complicated sequence? It takes forever...
Better integration with Motion would be nice. I'd like to click a button that sends me from Motion to see the updates in FCP.
nuckinfutz said:
I don't think that will happen 'cause there are very few places that do all of that in-house (especially the target market for Shake). It is very common for projects, especially those w/a good sized budget, to be worked on by 3 or more post places (1 for the editing, 1 for the audio, and 1 for the VFX). And lower budget projects that end up in "all-in-one" shops typically will probably settle for audio mixed inside FCP and compositing done in AE, not shake.
Tight cross-program integration is more of a bonus than a true selling feature, IMO. And it's only really worthwhile when each program can sell itself with out the other. For example, Adobe has made Premiere Pro and After Effects play really nice w/each other (and have this as a big selling point), but has that feature really taken sales away from Avid or FCP? Probably not because the workflow between Avid/FCP and AE is "good enough." The con's of switching to Premier Pro just to have better integration w/AE far out weight the pro's. Now, if Apple can make a killer apps that VFX/compositing companies want, post audio places want, and post video places want AND they make them all play together better than non-Apple apps THEN the integration will be a key selling point. But trying to sell an audio guy a less desirable audio app because it possess tight integration w/FCP won't go over to well.
tomgreever said:
That's not true. Of course a native solution w/in FCP is needed (and has been for a while), but there are work-around workflows you can use (good for 3, maybe 4 cameras) and there are 3rd party apps for sale if you do multi-camera work on a regular basis. Obviously no offerings so far are nearly as good as, let's say, Avid's mutli-cam abilities, but multi-cam in FCP is doable. Hopefully, though, 5 will finally have a native, robust solution to this problem.
gangst,
What this means is that it lets the editor view footage from multiple cameras in synch and side-by-side. For example, let's say you shot a wedding and used 3 cameras. Using an NLE (nonlinear editor) w/multi-camera support would allow you to watch footage from all 3 cameras in synch and at the same time.
Lethal
I wonder whether the Blu-Ray spec is complete enough for authoring solutions to be written.psycho bob said:
4 x 3Ghz does not make 12GHz. It makes 3GHz but with the capability to get some more work done within those 3GHz.ASP272 said:3.0 ghz G5? It's not like they haven't had enough time for that one. Though what would really be cool is if they create a dual core 3.0 ghz, dual processor, for a total of 12 ghz of processing power! It'll happen someday I guess.
I agree that it'd be great if FCP and Shake could work better with each other. However, someone's working on a solution.Eniregnat said:
. . . it's because the iPod's hard drive isn't robust enough for the task. It'd be nice though to go directly from a miniDV camera to something like a FireLite portable hard drive.Eniregnat said:
Hit Option and "p" next time you don't feel like waiting for stuff to render. This should save you a bunch of time. It plays every frame and shows you exactly what it'll look like (perfectly except for the timing, of course).pherplexed said:
Lethal: awesome post.
FCP Multicam lives!
Tom
Check out
This site for "Multicam Lite"
Here's a review from Creative Cow's Peter Wiggins
But also keep in mind that native Multicam support is rumored to be in FCP5. We'll know in 3 weeks.
LethalWolfe- Yeah I agree, my post was more of wishful thinking
Tom
Check out
This site for "Multicam Lite"
Here's a review from Creative Cow's Peter Wiggins
But also keep in mind that native Multicam support is rumored to be in FCP5. We'll know in 3 weeks.
LethalWolfe- Yeah I agree, my post was more of wishful thinking
Lethal and nuckinfutz,
Yes, I know that there are third party work-arounds for multi-cam in FCP. But as you suggest, they are not native and not as good as an Avid. I didn't mean to suggest that it's not possible at all, but that I can't make a good case to my boss for switching from Avid to FCP when most of our work is live multi-cam.
My main point was that no one on this forum had mentioned it yet. So, now I have!
thanks for the links, nuckinfutz
Yes, I know that there are third party work-arounds for multi-cam in FCP. But as you suggest, they are not native and not as good as an Avid. I didn't mean to suggest that it's not possible at all, but that I can't make a good case to my boss for switching from Avid to FCP when most of our work is live multi-cam.
My main point was that no one on this forum had mentioned it yet. So, now I have!
thanks for the links, nuckinfutz
cowards hints
Multicam is coming! QT7 is coming!
Hopefully with the ability to record more than two channels of audio now...
CoreVideo has some record functions that haven't been there before, maybe for a future device that looks like tivo?
I also think we are going to see an asset management function to complete the FCP/MOTION/XSAN picture. There has been talk about a new app.. but I have not heard this. I think Motion is going to be 10-bit.
One thing that's coming is new powermacs. I don't know at what speeds, but they are coming with PCI Express graphics.
Multicam is coming! QT7 is coming!
Hopefully with the ability to record more than two channels of audio now...
CoreVideo has some record functions that haven't been there before, maybe for a future device that looks like tivo?
I also think we are going to see an asset management function to complete the FCP/MOTION/XSAN picture. There has been talk about a new app.. but I have not heard this. I think Motion is going to be 10-bit.
One thing that's coming is new powermacs. I don't know at what speeds, but they are coming with PCI Express graphics.
I hope you're right about multicam and PCI-e in Power Macs. QT7 is already confirmed as coming, and Xsan apparently needs a little more development.sscoward said: