Interesting, but totally off-base. Blu-ray suppports fully uncompressed audio. Additionally, the higher bitrates overall imparted by the better laser allow for higher quality data streams of all types.
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Interesting, but totally off-base. Blu-ray suppports fully uncompressed audio. Additionally, the higher bitrates overall imparted by the better laser allow for higher quality data streams of all types.
That was only because it was new for the time. The newest product always commands a premium, as it ages, the premium wears off. For example, the current price/GB of the 750GB drives are about the same or only slightly higher than that of a 400GB drive, probably lower if you factor in the cost of a drive enclosure or drive bay into the per-GB costs.
Assuming you could make a flash drive that size, that drive would cost $15,000, using Sandisk's currently stated pricing. I can see using SSD if it's 2x that of a hard drive, that's cheaper than a mirror pair, but not 50x, and it's going to take several years to get down to that price differential.
HD-DVD and Blu-Ray both use the same color laser. HD-DVD was going to use a red laser of some type but that was changed.
There are a few niggling details here and there, HD-DVD requires dual video stream decoders and has some other features. One I remember is that HD-DVD allows you to "reskin" objects if the movie supports reskinning, so your favorite car has a certain logo replaced or your least favorite actor has a face replacement.
I'm rooting for BRD only because I want better computer storage options, but I don't expect to buy into an HD disc format it until the dust has settled and one format bows out.
uncompressed audio is fine when you have the space but what you ask for is diametrically opposed to good video. If I want the best video then I want to be efficient with my audio. TrueHD is lossless but utilizes a lower bitrate thus I have more room for the video and its peaks. To date there is little correlation between higher bitrates and better quality. It seems that the primary differentiator for quality encodes is the quality of the Master.
How do you figure? The only advantage I can see with Blu-ray is bandwidth.
Blu-rays maximum video bandwidth is 40Mbps while HD DVD's is 30mbps.
From a platform spec the HD DVD players are more full featured with far more mandatory features despite the lower cost.
Downloads and ZFS are going to make discs irrelevent except for very long term storage of personal data.
At some point you will not even download the movie, only a permission file to view it anywhere, anytime on any device.
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HD DVD leads there. They have access to double sided DL30 discs for 60GB of total storage on a disc.
TDK has a prototype 200GB Blu-ray disk.
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/0,1000000091,39282192,00.htm
I see that you are right. They both now use the 405 nanometer wavelength laser. So really I guess these two devices are essentially on equal footing with the laser now the principle difference is the format spec itself.
It looks as though BRD wins as far as storage 25GB per layer as opposed to 15GB per layer for HD-DVD but HD-DVD specifies 60i fps support whereas it is optional on BRD.
Not part of today's spec. Those discs record 33GB per layer which is incompatible with today's Blu-ray player which stores 25GB per layer.
Sunrunner said:
"should allow"?? That's speculation. I've got the Blu-ray specs in PDF form on my Mac. The current spec doesn't support anything higher than DL50GB discs. I'm into what can actually be delivered versus pipe dreams about what the future may hold. DS DL30GB discs are supported in the spec of HD DVD TODAY.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray#Blu-ray_Disc_.2F_HD_DVD_comparison
Its like ZIOXIDE said: TDK has a prototype 200GB Blu-ray disk.
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/0,1...9282192,00.htm
...and the spec requires that current drives support the multiple layers already.
Yeah and someone has a prototype car that runs on water. How's that going to help me now? If you want to live in the future then Blu-ray's your format but for folks that need to get stuff done today we need concrete deliverables.
If you think multi-layer BD-ROM is easy find me a replicator that can handle consumer projects. Hint..there are none. So dreams about 200GB discs that aren't even in today's spec are foolhardy if you can't even go to someone like discmakers or ProAction and replicate DL BD ROM.
http://www.proactionmedia.com/hd_dvd_replication.htm
100,000 Discs $1.35 ea(15GB) $1.55 ea(30GB)
http://www.proactionmedia.com/blu-ray_replication.htm
100,000 Discs $1.49 ea (25GB)
speaks volumes doesn't it?
What hardware are you currently using , and how many HD disks do you burn a day ?
Of course DL30 is listed and to access the other 30GB portion you simply flip the disc.
However you will see hide nor hare of mythical 200GB discs outside of a TDK lab.
http://www.pacificdisc.com/PricingHD-DVD.html
Well if you're not using any HD creation AND HD burning tools now your arguments about other's looking in the future are just as speculative as theirs.
Well if you're talking about flipping the disk, than if Blu-ray wanted to, they could make 100GB ones compatible to today's specs.
According to the wikipedia article, blu-ray is superior in every way.
Well if you're not using any HD creation AND HD burning tools now your arguments about other's looking in the future are just as speculative as theirs.
Oh I see. I'm stuck with iMovie until I can scrounge up the pennies for the next version of Final Cut Studio. I find that Blu-ray is a fine format..expecially as a recording format but I'm not so keen on it as far as a playback medium. I don't really like the extra BD+ DRM and Java based interactivity to me seem backwards.
Sunrunner said:
LOL yeah it is but technically speaking it allows for the most density on a single disc. My preferences would of course be for a single sided disc.
I'll likely own both formats but for movie buying I'm a HD DVD fan because of value. The cost is lower and the quality is all there. I don't have many qualms with others preferring Blu-ray. Who knows where things will take us...all I know is that Apple will be there to support HD wherever we go.
Yes but that would be quite difficult. Since Blu-ray isn't two .6mm halves sandwiched together like DVD/HD DVD.
They would have to have 3 pieces. Two .1mm protection layers and a 1mm backing. Both sides would have to be coated with protective film. That would be a mighty expensive disc to manufacture. But theoretically it could be done.
Speaking of CODECS
When is Apple going to support the next Hotness in compression.
Wavelet Compression
CRC-WVC
http://www.videsignline.com/howto/196602553
Sounds interesting. h.264 is pretty powerful but if this product in it's infancy can be competitive then who knows what power it may contain. I say FCP 7 needs to add some sort of Wavelet Compression. The less data we can send over WAN links yet still keep quality the better. IMO of course
When is Apple going to support the next Hotness in compression.
Wavelet Compression
CRC-WVC
http://www.videsignline.com/howto/196602553
Sounds interesting. h.264 is pretty powerful but if this product in it's infancy can be competitive then who knows what power it may contain. I say FCP 7 needs to add some sort of Wavelet Compression. The less data we can send over WAN links yet still keep quality the better. IMO of course