I know people also make the comment that RAM decreases in price. I spent over $1,000 for 32GB of DDR5 RAM when it first came out.
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Apple needs to make 16 GB of Ram standard or they may never have a laptop monopoly.
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Making a profit is fine. Making a windfall profit tends to draw the ire of consumers and bring in regulators.
Today regulators are shutting the app store monopoly and the lighting port. Maybe soon regulators will require Apple to use standard RAM and SSD.
Anyway people can be angry if they want. And in my opinion it is absolutely reasonable for people to be angry about Apples RAM pricing.
I spent $2700 on an Apple IIgs with 256K of RAM and no hard drive, and $5500 on a Mac IIci with 8MB of RAM AND 170 MB hard drive.
I have no complaints about the price of any computer I would buy today.
I have no complaints about the price of any computer I would buy today.
1. "Sheep", the shibboleth of trolls everywhere.
2. "Shady" when it's straightforward.
3. "Ram" instead of RAM.
-> Another troll-y garbage clickbait thread rises to the top of the engagement chart. It must be Tuesday.
I spent $250.00 for 16K of memory when computers first came out. Yes, 16K of memory so I could max out my system with 64K of memory.
My current desktop is W11 based. I have 64 Gig of memory and two 2 TB M.2 SSDs. The SSDs when I bought them were $350.00 each. They can now be had for about $200.00.
The Microsoft Surface Laptop base configuration is 8 GB, same as Apple. Windows arguably is not as efficient with memory as Apple, so I have been told. To double that ram to 16 Gig is $200.00 more. Surface laptops cannot be upgraded as everything is basically glued into the machine. Thus Microsoft is charging the same amount as Apple to double the ram. Seems to be an industry thing.
I have 16 Gig in my M2 Air as I do much photo editing and Photoshop and Lightroom like memory, especially when dealing with 20+ layers in 20 images at the same time. I am currently using about 163 Gig of the 1 TB drive. My needs are probably more than the average user.
Yeah. Regulators should be designing computers. Makes sense.
When are they going to address the price and profit margins on popcorn and soda at movie theaters?
Okay, this is getting silly.
I code, I do audio production – used to own a studio – and I do video production. The 8Gb M2 eats this stuff for breakfast, while simultaneously running Numbers; financial software; Pages, Mail; Firefox, with ten maybe twenty tabs; and other stuff. You don't need 16Gb for this. 16Gb won't hurt, but you won't notice the difference because everything is immediate; there's zero lag; ever.
Now, back to dev. I have an 8Gb 2013 MBP that can run six or seven VMs to emulate a production set-up. The only difference with the 2013 MBP is that it gets hot. Obviously, if you're running six or seven Windows VMs, then your experience will be different. Most people don't do that.
An 8Gb M2 is a powerhouse. It isn't a power-limited machine that's only good occasional or light use. It's more than powerful enough to meet the needs of 99% of folk.
Bloomberg did a teardown and component cost analysis of the 2017 (or maybe it was the 2018) MacBook Pro. Prices were based component manufacture published prices. The 16 GB of RAM in that MacBook Pro was listed as $10 based on the published price. And you know a company the size of Apple is able to negotiate that lower.
Maybe you should write a letter to your EU representative, complaining about popcorn/soda prices? Start a public campaign?
I doubt people consider popcorn/soda to be as vital to their lifestyle as their smartphone - but hey, if it is an important issue to you, go for it!
Its weird. The iPhones are approaching 8 GB of RAM….and that is for hardware that runs iOS and only allows one open app at a time…
I was trying to be consistent with the wording used by the OP. But you are correct that it has been used incorrectly. I meant “dominance” and im sure OP meant the same. There is no absence of competition in laptops so the term monopoly should not be used at all. Pretty sure regional monopolies exist though.
Unless you sync iphone or iPad to it. That sucks a ton of space.
But you're on point, there are a lot of users for whom 8/256 is fine. My niece in high school does most everything online and it’s plenty. It’s up to the user to do research and estimate what they need.
lol, i have started using a old hp probook due to apps that i need to use not able to be supported by mac/im having rlly storage issues on my base m1 air too
Increasing RAM (either in phones or laptops) has always been something Apple is very slow to do. Yet when it comes to SSD storage somehow we're probably on the way to 2TB phones...
Don’t buy, if it makes you angry. Be happy with your purchases. There are lot of options outside Apple.
8 GB RAM will never be enough for Xcode.
Developers buy the RAM options above 8 GB (16 GB, 32 GB, 64 GB, 128 GB, etc.) because it’s a requirement, not because they are trying to be cool.
When you got into Xcode you should have considered buying a Mac with more memory.
It’s not a matter of being ok with it.
I don’t think that anyone would disagree that an M3 MacBook Air at $999 with 16GB of RAM and 512GB SSD wouldn’t be an absolute steal, an immediate recommendation, a no question buy.
But the facts are simply the facts, Apple doesn’t make a machine like that, and they don’t get as big as they are now by doing those types of moves.
And for some of us, macOS is a non-negotiable, and the Apple Silicon transition has been absolutely incredible, so the prices can be justified.
What’s the alternative, move to windows? Because I’d rather be stuck with 8 GB of RAM on a Mac than have unlimited RAM elsewhere.
Also, even a $1800 windows computer, no matter the RAM or SSD, isn’t going to get you anywhere close to the battery life and efficiency of an Apple Silicon machine
yeah, and while they’re at it, why don’t they make the entire industry, including Apple, use Intel processors as well.
You know… Because standards are good
This wasn’t a complete re-work of the model like the M2 MacBook Air. The last Intel MBAir and the M1 MBAir actually share quite a few components and look identical from the outside. The M2 was a completely new model.
Guess what?I have 16gb and a Mac will “use whatever ram it has available.
For instance I have a Mac with 4GB RAM and it can open more than two tabs……… more like 30
The ram and storage games are Apple's best scams and they will not give it up easily.
Apple is not trying to capture the laptop market.
Apple is not trying to capture the laptop market.