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Apple News Gaining Dedicated 'Election Night' Tab With Real-Time Results

I wish you can turn it off. I no longer vote. Not a cool thing to say, but I've grown disenchanted by it. Our system is rigged and only the politicians get rich, while infrastructure crumbles, cops don't get proper funds for training which has led to unfortunate issues in the news, teachers have to work 2 jobs since there are somehow no funds available yet superintendents make 6 figures, Yahoo, Experian, Facebook and the like frequently get our data stolen and not so much as a fine or jail time for executives.

What exactly is the point when the laws are geared to keep the corporations rich and the little people with low paying jobs that should no longer exist?
 
iReality85 said:
But, you didn't really help yourself either by providing eye-rolling left wing talking points...

- Why do left wingers always feel the need to speak for all women when it comes to abortion? As if women don't exist on the right.
- Blue states have some of the worst gun related crimes, yet have some of the toughest laws restricting guns...
- "Ripping toddlers away from their parents" happened under Obama, yet left wingers never raised any concerns.
- I'm hardly a billionaire... or millionaire... or even hundred thousandaire, yet my tax cuts have been nice, thank you. Pay taxes, and you get tax cuts. It's magic, I know.
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1. Countries with tough gun control don’t have mass shootings on a semi-weekly basis like the United States. It isn’t rocket science.

2. “Ripping toddlers away from their parents” did NOT occur under Obama. Maybe you’re referring to the detention centers for minors who crossed the border alone?

3. The tax cuts have added up to an ungodly deficit, and as predicted, the GOP is now pushing to cripple social security and Medicare to pay for the cuts, which overwhelmingly benefited the wealthiest. Working people who’ve paid into social programs throughout their lives will now be shafted so Trump’s buddies can write off their yachts.

4. Abortion: bodily autonomy means you can’t tell someone else that they must attach their body to another human being and remain attached. Any time you want someone else out of your body, you can say so.
You think because some women are Republicans that somehow would change my view of bodily autonomy? Lol.
 
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Razeus said:
What exactly is the point when the laws are geared to keep the corporations rich and the little people with low paying jobs that should no longer exist?
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The disenfranchisement of the middle class is the essence of the political conflict of our times. And that is pretty much what you are describing.

Even just to support the resolution of unjust trade and global economic policy is enough to go out and vote Red.
 
Sanlitun said:
The disenfranchisement of the middle class is the essence of the political conflict of our times. And that is pretty much what you are describing.

Even just to support the resolution of unjust trade and global economic policy is enough to go out and vote Red.
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The cognitive dissonance...it boggles.
 
Sanlitun said:
It certainly does.
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I'm curious about your thoughts on a few issues :)
1. What do you think of the out of control deficit? Do you think that will help the middle class in some way?
2. What do you think of recent GOP talking points about cutting Medicare and social security to pay for the insane deficit they've generated? How will this help the middle class, exactly?
3. Why do you think the tax cuts were permanent for corporations and the highest earners, whereas they expire for the middle and working class? Is there some way this will help the middle class? Or do you think maybe the GOP was trying to hoodwink middle class earners with a temporary cut?

I can understand why some people might think the trade war with China will eventually benefit the middle class, but I can't really see how the Republican Party is any friend of the middle or working class.
 
unobtainium said:
1. Countries with tough gun control don’t have mass shootings on a semi-weekly basis like the United States. It isn’t rocket science.

2. “Ripping toddlers away from their parents” did NOT occur under Obama. Maybe you’re referring to the detention centers for minors who crossed the border alone?

3. The tax cuts have added up to an ungodly deficit, and as predicted, the GOP is now pushing to cripple social security and Medicare to pay for the cuts, which overwhelmingly benefited the wealthiest. Working people who’ve paid into social programs throughout their lives will now be shafted so Trump’s buddies can write off their yachts.

4. Abortion: bodily autonomy means you can’t tell someone else that they must attach their body to another human being and remain attached. Any time you want someone else out of your body, you can say so.
You think because some women are Republicans that somehow would change my view of bodily autonomy? Lol.
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- Oh yes they do. Do you not read international news? Most countries have tougher gun laws than the US and still have horrific mass shootings. And if it isn't guns, it's knifing sprees like in the UK. And no, the US doesn't have "mass shootings on a semi-weekly basis." You also conveniently skipped over my original point, which was blue states have some of the worst gun related crime, despite having the toughest laws.

- If you cannot verify that the child you're bringing across the border is yours, you'll be either permanently separated or remain sheltered until it can be determined. This is longstanding practice, and is to prevent human trafficking.

- SS and Medicare predominantly take up 50% of the federal budget each year, and you're complaining about tax cuts? Tax cuts aren't handouts. You have to pay something into the system in order to get something out. FYI, the Fed is currently hauling in record tax collections, both personal and corporate. So any discussion about the debt (liabilities) can only be accurate if we also take into account the Fed's cash (assets) as well. Simple accounting, of which I know. That's what I do.

- I'm not attempting to change your view at all, you're the one making general statements (either willfully or ignorantly) against others in order to prove some point. But yes, it's pretty clear you don't speak for all women, nor does the left OR right on this issue. All that can be done is to make an observation, which is liberal women place more value on their "bodily autonomy," whereas conservative women place more valve on the life of the unborn.
 
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unobtainium said:
I can understand why some people might think the trade war with China will eventually benefit the middle class, but I can't really see how the Republican Party is any friend of the middle or working class.
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I was at the embassy in Beijing on Dongzhimenwai Dajie for four years. My opinions on the economic conflict are my own, not derived from the media and they are unshakable. There is no "Trade War", there is a fundamental economic conflict that is much broader and is conducted with malice on the other side.

The longer America is pushed into a consumer and service economy the more difficult it will be to manage social service changes for the middle class.
 
I wonder if it will go down or "freeze" when the results aren't premium to Apple's political slant.

Like 2016. The main news sites suddenly froze up and became too afraid to post the results of several states. The data was held and fretted over through approximately midnight or even the next morning. That was a farce.
 
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iReality85 said:
- Oh yes they do. Do you not read international news? Most countries have tougher gun laws than the US and still have horrific mass shootings. And if it isn't guns, it's knifing sprees like in the UK. And no, the US doesn't have "mass shootings on a semi-weekly basis." You also conveniently skipped over my original point, which was blue states have some of the worst gun related crime, despite having the toughest laws.
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Such as Brazil, where you have to be 25 years of age to own a gun and require a special permit to remove it from your residence. Increasingly Toronto is bad as well and the law there is extremely restrictive for handguns.

Not surprisingly it seems that criminals will do criminal things with guns.

Anyways I'm out of this discussion congrats to the winners.
 
iReality85 said:
-Most countries have tougher gun laws than the US and still have horrific mass shootings.
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So I guess you're not acquainted with the facts? There are actual studies, you know. Data is better than NRA talking points. Special interests should not define our policies.
If you cannot verify that the child you're bringing across the border is yours, you'll be either permanently separated or remain sheltered until it can be determined.
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In isolated cases when there is cause for concern. Under Trump, we saw literal babies and toddlers being ripped screaming from their mothers' arms. Unreal what you will try to justify.. even Trump realized it couldn't be justified and had to reverse course. By the way, they weren't "sheltered until it can be determined" -- they did not even keep track of families after separation, which suggests either extreme incompetence or that they never planned to reunite them.
SS and Medicare predominantly take up 50% of the federal budget each year, and you're complaining about tax cuts? Tax cuts aren't handouts.
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Nor are Medicare and social security. We all pay into them. Older people have been paying into them their entire lives. Now the GOP wants to cut them to help pass tax cuts for billionaires with yachts.
the Fed is currently hauling in record tax collections, both personal and corporate
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The economy has been booming since the days of Obama. We are at the tail end of a very long growth spurt. What's ridiculous is the amount of debt we've added during this period of growth. When the market is good you don't RAISE the deficit, you lower it. Trump is repeating the mistakes of George W. Bush.
 
TheRealAlex said:
Let me Save you all from Wasting time with Election Results.

Nothing will change in terms of balance of power. Republicans will control everything.
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I think and hope this is very incorrect.
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iamgalt said:
Voting just encourages the politicians (on both the left and right) to keep doing what they've been doing. No thanks to that.
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This is really stupid logic, and desperately cynical. People fought and died for this democracy. You owe it to them, and future generations, to participate. Even small wins bend the course of history.
 
I think Apple has done an excellent job with their news app no matter what your political persuasion might be. I use it all the time.
 
unobtainium said:
So I guess you're not acquainted with the facts? There are actual studies, you know. Data is better than NRA talking points. Special interests should not define our policies.

In isolated cases when there is cause for concern. Under Trump, we saw literal babies and toddlers being ripped screaming from their mothers' arms. Unreal what you will try to justify.. even Trump realized it couldn't be justified and had to reverse course. By the way, they weren't "sheltered until it can be determined" -- they did not even keep track of families after separation, which suggests either extreme incompetence or that they never planned to reunite them.

Nor are Medicare and social security. We all pay into them. Older people have been paying into them their entire lives. Now the GOP wants to cut them to help pass tax cuts for billionaires with yachts.

The economy has been booming since the days of Obama. We are at the tail end of a very long growth spurt.
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First, if you’re going to provide a link to try and prove your point, at least link it correctly. I have no idea what you’re trying to show me since it returns an error.

Second, it’s pretty evident at this point you get your talking points from Media Matters/Think Progress/Vox/HuffPo, all outlets filled with left wing tripe. I’ve read this all before.

What’s ridiculous is the amount of debt we’ve added during this period of growth. When the market is good you don't RAISE the deficit, you lower it.
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Just had to pick out this little bit here and laugh. You clearly don’t know anything about balance sheets.

Anyway, it’s been fun. I think you’re Exhibit A for why it’s so difficult for liberals and conservatives to have meaningful dialogue. It’s nothing but bumper sticker slogans and chants from you people, with statements like “ripping toddlers away from mothers,” and “passing tax cuts for billionaires with yachts.” There is no learned or nuanced discussion, because all you do is boil it down to emotional stupidity.
 
Plutonius said:
Why bother. Just wait till Wednesday for the news.
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Does not work for true election night returns-watching junkies. Must have net access to be able to read about all the speculation and celebration or mourning, plus warmups for finger-pointing or gloating. And, pizza. Pizza is key.
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GadgetBen said:
Is it true that there is a chance the orange faced baboon could lose?
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Is it true some people think he's on the ballot?
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TheRealAlex said:
Let me Save you all from Wasting time with Election Results.

NOT ENOUGH Latinos, Blacks, or young people bothered to Vote. Nothing will change in terms of balance of power. Republicans will control everything.
You cant fight math, its a mideterm election only a fraction of voters bother.
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That was then. This is now. Early voting has begun and even that has already surpassed 2014 midterm figures.

Trump's election was a surprise. But not as surprising as what he and the party he nominally leads have done to the country and its prospects since then. So, expect the midterms to be a surprise too. Not saying anyone has predicted the outcomes within the real margins of error. But, the outcomes will surprise us for sure.

The main thing is to show up and vote. When you don't vote, you let someone else steer the outcome. When you do vote, you are vested in the governance that follows the elections: you can pick up the phone and hold your elected officials' feet to the fire when they fail to act as though our votes mattered.
 
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First, if you’re going to provide a link to try and prove your point, at least link it correctly.
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The study in Epidemiologic Review is called “What Do We Know About the Association Between Firearm Legislation and Firearm-Related Injuries?” The study provides robust evidence, which is more than I can say for you.
Second, it’s pretty evident at this point you get your talking points from Media Matters/Think Progress/Vox/HuffPo, all outlets filled with left wing tripe.
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Another common online trolling tactic. Rather than actually responding in any way to my clearly made points, you act as if they’re automatically invalid. In fact, it only shows that you’re unable to respond with any kind of meaningful dialogue.
Just had to pick out this little bit here and laugh. You clearly don’t know anything about balance sheets.
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Again a totally meaningless response devoid of content. This is funny. Just to get this straight, you think it’s good to balloon deficits during the good times. What happens when the next recession hits? How would we afford stimulus spending if we’re starting off with such insane deficits? The markets are not invulnerable and are showing major instability over the past month in case you hadn’t noticed. Stimulus will be necessary, and unlike the last recession, before which deficits were low or non-existent, we won’t be able to afford it.

There is no learned or nuanced discussion, because all you do is boil it down to emotional stupidity.
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Freaking hilarious. “THE CARAVAN IS COMING!! THE CARAVAN IS COMING! LOCK HER UP!” - POTUS
 
LizKat said:
Does not work for true election night returns-watching junkies. Must have net access to be able to read about all the speculation and celebration or mourning, plus warmups for finger-pointing or gloating. And, pizza. Pizza is key.
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Is it true some people think he's on the ballot?
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That was then. This is now. Early voting has begun and even that has already surpassed 2014 midterm figures.

Trump's election was a surprise. But not as surprising as what he and the party he nominally leads have done to the country and its prospects since then. So, expect the midterms to be a surprise too. Not saying anyone has predicted the outcomes within the real margins of error. But, the outcomes will surprise us for sure.

The main thing is to show up and vote. When you don't vote, you let someone else steer the outcome. When you do vote, you are vested in the governance that follows the elections: you can pick up the phone and hold your elected officials' feet to the fire when they fail to act as though our votes mattered.
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After 2016 I don't look at any Polls. On a side note 2014 predictions for those midterms the media ran with similar story lines the results will be the same.
During midterms about 30-40% of the voting public partipates. During General election maybe 60%-70%.
Its just not enough voters going to votes.
 
TheRealAlex said:
After 2016 I don't look at any Polls. On a side note 2014 predictions for those midterms the media ran with similar story lines the results will be the same.
During midterms about 30-40% of the voting public partipates. During General election maybe 60%-70%.
Its just not enough voters going to votes.
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Well there are a whole lotta new registrants so it would seem silly to reggie but not vote.

Back on National Voter Registration day in September this year, more than 800,000 people registered to vote, compared to around 145,000 in 2014. And that's just a day they tacked a name onto for a big reggie push... but each state has its own deadlines for registration and that option continues in some states right up to election day.

 
*waiting for that polite flush*
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