ok, so if NY tax is 10%, that makes it 880 full price compared to 950 in EU, and that only if we ignore current exchange rates, it would/should be 880 vs 1100$ if we don’t ignore reality. EU was always paying more for all US products, but they went and upped the prices in what is about to be a very Stark Winter that’s coming. Good for them, if they manage to sell it to someone.
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Apple Nixes Plan to Boost iPhone 14 Series Production Due to Lower Demand
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Prices in the US don't include sales tax. Most states charge sales tax, which is can be as high as 7% like in California. So, the price of the base model in the US is actually $856, assuming 7% tax, compared to 950€. That extra ~$100 is coming from USD strength; Apple had to increase prices globally by $100 because of this to prevent their USD earnings from falling.
Do all EU countries require an extra year of warranty (2 years total) like in Germany? In the US, we only get 1 year of standard warranty. If so, that's another reason why the prices are effectively the same (besides the extra $100 from currency fluctuation).
I am not upgrading until I see USB-C so it doesn't really matter but the new cameras are a nice improvement. Do you really need to keep the heat on this winter? 🥶
In the end:
iPhone 13 Pro last year was 1149€
Now iPhone 14 Pro starts 1299€.
Even worse for non-pro which was 899€ one year ago, now for the same phone the 14 starts 999€.
That explains enough, I guess.
iPhone 13 Pro last year was 1149€
Now iPhone 14 Pro starts 1299€.
Even worse for non-pro which was 899€ one year ago, now for the same phone the 14 starts 999€.
That explains enough, I guess.
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Not sure why this myth gets perpetuated.
Apple didn’t raise prices in China, Japan, India, Canada or other major markets that mattered. EU price increases are due to currency devaluations as a result of poor political decisions from EU leaders. Not Apple’s fault.
The reality of the situation is EU currency is in the gutter. Convert Euros back to USD and price is the same.
When euro was stronger the prices didn’t get lower for Europe, and for USA did not increase.
Now this is again another way to put prices up and never look back at it.
I guess some general dissent is justified.
We are in the worst economy in a lifetime, what do you expect?
true
the inflation boom is really big
especially after everyone almost receiving cash reliefs during the pandemic
Europeans tend to pay more for their strong consumer laws. They pride themselves with their ”free” two year warranty or whatever but in reality, somebody pays for it. And it’s not Apple.
If you look at a benchmark iPhone market like Hong Kong where there are zero taxes or customs barriers, the cost of iPhone has only gone up by $10 or $20 since last year.
When times gets really really tough people want to see who are the ones who stand up and be counted. The energy issue with Russia is affecting everyone but rather than give the people a little rest bite, companies like Apple who make uber obscene amounts of profit every month are not willing to help out consumers because in their mind maintaing the high level of profits is more important than keeping customers happy. Yes inflation is high, yes interest rates are high, yes energy costs are high which is all predominantly being caused by the issue happening in Ukraine. This will not last forever and thus everyone must ride out the storm but it would be nice to see companies help out a little rather than keep raising their prices so their profits can be maintained.
Has this happened back in iPhone XR days, iPhone 11 days? I think for about 3 years now [iPhone 12/12 mini, iPhone 13/13 mini, iPhone 14/14 Plus] this is what's been happening... But it could also be that it is too early to tell if there will never be a rise in demand for iPhone 14 and 14 Plus?
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Exactly... its Bloomberg, J.P. Morgan and other do this every time. Unfortunately it is legal too.
Meanwhile... I think that the lower demand is more related to the current (very high) price tag than the marginal differences between 13 and 14 models.
Can you imagine if they didn’t increase the price and put the latest Achip in the entire iPhone lineup, as they did every single year before this? Maybe they wouldn’t even have seen plummeting demand 😱
The fact is: they sell anyway.
It's like a luxury brand dominated by the fashion wave, even if the cost is absurd people ask for it and give everything for it.
Probably people like me and you are not going to buy, but there are others out there getting it anyway.
So why they should not increase their prices?
No, it would be much more in Europe if it wasn’t for USD strength
if exchange rate for dollar was as it was a year, or even 6 months ago, price in EU would translate to 1100 dollars for base model. Besides, Google prices for 13 on launch day, convert, add tax to US price and see that EU has paid 10-15% more last year, and every year before that. Now they just increased it further.Warranty varies from state to state, most get the same 1 year, though it baffles me how since supposedly it should be 2 in EU. To my knowledge only Italy forces them to 2 years, France forces them to quit the charger crap, and there are no other exceptions.
Btw, I am in Croatia, we don’t have an official Apple Store, many countries don’t, we have an authorized reseller. Our base model of iphone 14 is…. 1060 US dollars! <3
I was checking to see if my local Apple store had any 14s in stock yesterday and they did. I didn't order one because I just bought a few 13 Pro Max phones in August but I could have gotten one delivered yesterday if I wanted one already.
Feels like the same story as always. Some people will sell their Apple shares off this news. And then Apple will beat estimates the day they report quarterly earnings.
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- No USB-C port
- Old Notch
- Same as iP13
The most exciting feature of iP14 is the improved repairability. But no one notices this feature.
If you need a new iP, just get a iP12 or iP13 for a reasonable price.
- Old Notch
- Same as iP13
The most exciting feature of iP14 is the improved repairability. But no one notices this feature.
If you need a new iP, just get a iP12 or iP13 for a reasonable price.
Here she is in 2021 telling the same story
I think she is highly incompetent as a tech reporter
fortune.com
I think she is highly incompetent as a tech reporter
Apple expected to cut iPhone 13 production goal by 10 million this year on major chip shortage | Fortune
The company had expected to produce 90 million new iPhone models in the last three months of the year, but it’s now telling manufacturing partners that the total will be lower.
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I'm sure Apple will be fine. People will continue to purchase their products and services. Is there a competitor that's creating anything more compelling?
Yep. An $800 device that has delivery dates currently at a month from now. It‘s basically replacing the revenue that is lost to lower 14 sales. Apple‘s not dumb.
This has everything to do with the war in Europe.
It’s driving down security.
It’s pushing up prices everywhere.
It’s making the dollar so strong compared to European currencies, so prices have to be bumped up.
Ironically, if it wasn’t for all the extremism and malicious behavior in social media apps for more than 10 years…
…we would have more social harmony, less conflict, less misinformation.
Politicians wouldn’t be able to use social media to twist and distort the public.
Those social media apps were distributed through the App Store and Play Store.
It’s like a self own. They distributed the apps, the apps hurt society and politics, and that hurts everyone’s business.
All the warning signs were raised a decade or more ago. Nobody did anything to prevent this mass confusion.
Because investors in FB and Twitter just wanted views and profits.
It’s driving down security.
It’s pushing up prices everywhere.
It’s making the dollar so strong compared to European currencies, so prices have to be bumped up.
Ironically, if it wasn’t for all the extremism and malicious behavior in social media apps for more than 10 years…
…we would have more social harmony, less conflict, less misinformation.
Politicians wouldn’t be able to use social media to twist and distort the public.
Those social media apps were distributed through the App Store and Play Store.
It’s like a self own. They distributed the apps, the apps hurt society and politics, and that hurts everyone’s business.
All the warning signs were raised a decade or more ago. Nobody did anything to prevent this mass confusion.
Because investors in FB and Twitter just wanted views and profits.
That's simply not true!
The cheapest baseline (Apple Store) iPhone 14 here (in The Netherlands) is €1019. Convert that to dollars and you get $977. That's a lot more than the $799 US iPhone 14 price! It's actually a huge price increase.
Given the 14's very small feature difference with last years 13 (which did not get a price increase), and given that the 13 has a much more attractive baseline price with the Mini, the choice for a lot of people in the EU is obvious to go for a 13, especially with carrier discounts.
Personally I think that next year, they will come up with updated lower-priced Mini, and that it will simply get a 2-year update cycle. The iPhone 14 is more like a 13S anyway, with even less technical updates compared to most S-update models in the past.
What? Most likely give good example to the whole industry about this ridiculous yearly update cycle we are forced to embrace as customers. There is really no need to have new iPhone each year or an iPad or Apple Watch. Tons of effort, time, and resources in general just to release a product that is not significantly better in any aspect from the last year product. I imagine that Apple already has tons of people working on iPhone 16 and beyond. Many new technologies are deliberately held for the next release cycle, which technically mean that you just bought and iPhone 14 Pro which Apple developed 2 years ago.