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I have to admit I am a little surprised by Apple's decision. I really thought we would have seen updates this week in time for all the Christmas shopping. And releasing them just after Christmas at MWSF seems a little strange since many people will likely try to give their credit cards / bank accounts a break after what ever they spent on the holidays.
 
except for this AIO with a quad core CPU....

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plus better speakers, a card reader, TV tuner, more USB Ports including some that are easily accessible, and a hard drive that's actually user accessible.
 
Current apps, ESPECIALLY under Windows, do not benefit from quad core processors as well as they theoretically could; not to mention that multitasking in Windows is an utter crap when compared to OS X, be it under XP or Vista.

Having said that, do you really wanna suggest a Dell that does not run the most powerful OS on the planet? No go, my dear Enderle agent...:rolleyes:

Yes, it is the most powerful OS and someone should tell Apple that. They're holding it pack with niche products that trade more performance and features for thinness with each passing redesign.
 
As I said before, the Mini IS DEAD, forget it; it's gonna be replaced by a new special edition Cube by early 2009.

I highly doubt a new cube comes out next year. If it does, it'll decrease current Mac Pro sale.
 
Well what would they have unveiled at MacWorld?????:p

They need SOME sort of hardware to release!:apple::apple::apple::apple:


New Mac Pro with Nehalem chips. iMac with quad core and ATI 4000 series video card and possibly a 30" model. Mac Mini/Apple tv hybrid with a shuttle size case allowing some expandability. Hopefully Blu-ray options for all.
 
plus better speakers, a card reader, TV tuner, more USB Ports including some that are easily accessible, and a hard drive that's actually user accessible.

Careful, you might confuse Mr. Lawyer.

He said "most powerful AIO on the planet", which I demonstrated was objectively a complete falsehood.

You are venturing into the subjective "better" territory, and Mr. Lawyer will try to redefine the subjective term "better" in Apple's favor, and then in his mind "prove" you wrong.

:eek:
 
Apple needs to stop giving outdated hardware - its ridiculous especially for the prices we are paying. I don't mind paying a heavy price but give us what we deserve.
 
Harumph

I thought about getting one of the new truly stunning looking MB Pro's, but it should have included Blu-Ray, so no sale.

I thought about getting an iPod classic, but wonder why it doesn't include the previously available 160GB drive, so no sale.

I thought about getting an iPhone 3G, but I'm waiting for at least a 32GB HD - you know, just like the iPod touch has - but apparantly I will wait until after the holidays, so no sale.

I'm just sayin'...:confused:
 
It looks to me like the studios (two desktops, two laptops and the mini) all have either HDMI + VGA or HDMI + DVI-I.

DVI-I has all the VGA signals, you just need the cheap passive adapter dongle.



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http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/desktop-studio-slim?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19

By the way, did you look closely at the Studio Slim?

Blu-ray Disc burner, HDMI, TV tuner, 1394, 802.11n, Q9550 CPU (quad 12MB L2, 2.83GHz, 1333FSB), 8 GiB RAM, eSATA, 7.1 sound, Intel® GMA X4500HD with built-in support for full 1080p high-definition video playback, including Blu-ray* disc movies, 3.5" SATA (up to 1 TB), PCIe x16 slot for graphics, two PCIe x1 slots, one PCI slot, three 3.5" drive slots / two optical slots (4 total)

$869 for Quad 2.33 GHz, 4 GiB, BD-ROM/DVD-RW, 640 GB, ATI RADEON 3450 HD 256MiB, Vista 64-bit.

$549 entry price

It looks to me that the Studio Hybrid, which is really the one that competes with the Mini, has no VGA capability...

http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/desktop-studio-hybrid?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

Please get your Dell info straight...
 
plus better speakers, a card reader, TV tuner, more USB Ports including some that are easily accessible, and a hard drive that's actually user accessible.

Oh yea, Dells AIO is so great. The one I tried at the store kept coming up with the alert each time I tried to run a program: "Vista has encountered an unexpected error and is shutting down the program".

Yea, Dell, compared to Apple, is a much better value... :rolleyes:
 
It looks to me that the Studio Hybrid, which is really the one that competes with the Mini, has no VGA capability...

http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/desktop-studio-hybrid?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

Please get your Dell info straight...

...and please look at page 9 of the Studio Hybrid setup guide where it says that you need to use a DVI-I to VGA adapter to connect a VGA monitor to the system.

And, by the way, only the absolute bottom end LCD displays are analogue VGA-only these days - so the whole premise of your argument is weak.
 
Jobs has basically said F--- all of you! I said it last month, he has become very cocky and arrogant when it comes to the little guy on a budget. What ever new Mini comes out will not be sold for under $899 so yeah he might grant your wish at Mac World but he is going to bend you over with the price.

Its not the same Apple that we once knew and loved.
 
like many others have said, this is unfortunate. I've been ready to buy a new mini since the introduction of Leopard, justifying in my head that I would get new iLife, new Leopard and a more capable computer which, together with the resale value of my PPC mini would have cost me almost nothing (as long as you consider the s/w cost at $200), yet I've held off in anticipation of a refresh or replacement for the mini.

I hate to say it, but it was the Mini that brought me to the decision to switch, the lack of one might send me back (AIO does not work for me and I will not spend the money on the PRO)
 
...and please look at page 9 of the Studio Hybrid setup guide where it says that you need to use a DVI-I to VGA adapter to connect a VGA monitor to the system.

And, by the way, only the absolute bottom end LCD displays are analogue VGA-only these days - so the whole premise of your argument is weak.

Soooo, taken from Dell's pages, what does this mean?

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No Monitor (System includes DVI and HDMI ports. VGA is not supported)

Sounds to me like your argument is the weak one...
 
Soooo, taken from Dell's pages, what does this mean?

Does the phrase "horse's mouth" mean anything to you?


Sounds to me like your argument is the weak one...

Yes, if you want to believe the ad copy over the technical documentation for the product.

And, by the way, since the DVI->VGA dongle is not included, out-of-the-box one could say that VGA is not supported, so the ad copy is not incorrect as it stands.

And who cares anyway? VGA is pretty old these days.

The only place VGA ports should be is on laptops, since conference rooms with 8 year old VGA projectors are still common.

On the other hand, 1394 is still pretty useful - and the only reason to drop it is to force upsell to the more expensive systems which still have it!
 
Most HTPCs aren't shaped like AV components.

Fine for most AV uses. PVRs aren't expandable either.
A lot of then have e-sata.

It has DVI + optical out. It's just as good as HDMI but without the copy protection.
DVI can do HDCP HDMI is just dvi + sound.
MacMinis can display 1080p video. What more do you need?
but it's cpu + gpu is weak for video cpu load.
 
Oh yea, Dells AIO is so great. The one I tried at the store kept coming up with the alert each time I tried to run a program: "Vista has encountered an unexpected error and is shutting down the program".

Yea, Dell, compared to Apple, is a much better value... :rolleyes:

Listen we need to stop using the OS as an excuse. We are comparing hardware here not software, and Apple is being cheap with us.
 
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