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I would be so grateful if someone, anyone, would explain what is meant by the 'holidays'. Whose holidays? The summer holidays? Easter holidays? Are Apple saying that there won't be any new iMacs until September 2009?

I think it means Christmas.
 
I would be so grateful if someone, anyone, would explain what is meant by the 'holidays'. Whose holidays? The summer holidays? Easter holidays? Are Apple saying that there won't be any new iMacs until September 2009?
Holidays in america always means Christmas/Hanukkah/Ramadan/Kwanzaa through the New Year. This means no updates until January at MacWorld.
 
Not surprising. We are in a global recession. I wouldn't release any products if I was Apple either. I expect the next year or two to be very slow. Not just from Apple, but all of our favorite high end electronic companies.
 
It looks to me like the studios (two desktops, two laptops and the mini) all have either HDMI + VGA or HDMI + DVI-I.

DVI-I has all the VGA signals, you just need the cheap passive adapter dongle.


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http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/desktop-studio-slim?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19

By the way, did you look closely at the Studio Slim?

Blu-ray Disc burner, HDMI, TV tuner, 1394, 802.11n, Q9550 CPU (quad 12MB L2, 2.83GHz, 1333FSB), 8 GiB RAM, eSATA, 7.1 sound, Intel® GMA X4500HD with built-in support for full 1080p high-definition video playback, including Blu-ray* disc movies, 3.5" SATA (up to 1 TB), PCIe x16 slot for graphics, two PCIe x1 slots, one PCI slot, three 3.5" drive slots / two optical slots (4 total)

$869 for Quad 2.33 GHz, 4 GiB, BD-ROM/DVD-RW, 640 GB, ATI RADEON 3450 HD 256MiB, Vista 64-bit.

$549 entry price

Actually, it is a Blu-ray combo. Reads Blu-ray but writes DVD
 
Actually, it is a Blu-ray combo. Reads Blu-ray but writes DVD

Blu-ray Disc (BD) Combo (Reads BD and Writes to DVD/CD) [Included in Price]
Blu-ray Disc (BD) Burner (Writes to DVD/CD/BD) [add $80 or $2/month1]

Note that I clearly wrote "BD-ROM/DVD-RW" in the $869 config, and listed BD writer in the "all options" paragraph.
 
Apple always punishes the impatient. :)

Sometimes, I have to sit back and laugh at the "big picture" with Apple products, even though I'm as excited as anyone else to see what they're going to release next....

A couple interviews I've read claim that Steve Jobs really isn't personally much into "consumerism". His choice of religious beliefs and personal lifestyle is about keeping things a little bit simpler and less materialistic, despite heading up a business that sells a lot of product to people who don't share those "lifestyle choices".

It makes me wonder if he has that in mind when he does so many things that seem to punish the "early adopters" and fanatics who stand in long lines just to have a brand new, "Revision A" Apple product first?

Apple seems to release things on their own schedule, no matter how much it frustrates the impatient. Buying an Apple product during any traditional consumer "season of mass spending" almost ensures you're buying "last generation" product, helping Apple clear their inventory for something newer and better that's coming up next. (Since when could you get a brand new Apple product, iPod, Mac or otherwise, right at "back to school" time?)

This Xmas will be no exception to the rule.... Can't wait to spend that Xmas gift money, or you HAVE to get your new machine right on Dec. 25th. because "that's when the parents/relatives will buy it for me"? Then you'll be either buying the "old stuff", or be another "early adopter" for the new 15" Macbook Pro - which is sure to get another set of custom config. options and maybe even a "speed bump" right after the holidays are over.


no big deal ... People get all worked up and place their hopes and dreams into the littlest rumors and are so crushed because they are wrong. It's only a few more months till mwsf I think we can wait that long
 
Dagnabbit I wanted a Mini for a media center this Christmas. Guess I'll have to wait because I really don't see buying a year-old machine without wireless-N at year-old prices. And nothing else makes any sense as an media center -- the itv is too inflexible to make sense when I can get something that acts as a wireless bridge, a DVD player, and more for a bit more.

Coal for my stocking please.

You can get a wireless-N USB adapter for the mini for $49. If that's your primary criteria, you can even buy a used mini and save even more money and have your media center mini by the weekend...
 
So we can add at least another 60 days to the 455 days the Mini hasn't been updated. :mad::mad:
 
And the fate of the Mini is now even lesser known... :(

As I said before, the Mini IS DEAD, forget it; it's gonna be replaced by a new special edition Cube by early 2009.

As for the iMac, it DEFINITELY does not need any updates for now...it's the best and most powerful AIO on the planet, and more than suffices for any prospective buyer out there.

In what pertains to the announcement, it's an unprecedented move by Apple just to ensure that wannabe buyers REALLY go and buy the current line-up during the holiday season.
 
As for the iMac, it DEFINITELY does not need any updates for now...it's the best and most powerful AIO on the planet, and more than suffices for any prospective buyer out there.

Wow. That's the kind of forward-thinking and revolutionary mind that has made Apple what it is today. Look out Steve.
 
except for this AIO with a quad core CPU....

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Current apps, ESPECIALLY under Windows, do not benefit from quad core processors as well as they theoretically could; not to mention that multitasking in Windows is an utter crap when compared to OS X, be it under XP or Vista.

Having said that, do you really wanna suggest a Dell that does not run the most powerful OS on the planet? No go, my dear Enderle agent...:rolleyes:
 
Chip Supply the Culprit

Chip supply can't be met for the holidays. Expect all the new Macbook updates in the iMac (DisplayPort, Nvidia chipset/controller, LED display) will show up at MW in January. It may not be immediately available, again due to supply, but will be shown then.
 
Current apps, ESPECIALLY under Windows, do not benefit from quad core processors as well as they theoretically could; not to mention that multitasking in Windows is an utter crap when compared to OS X, be it under XP or Vista.

Having said that, do you really wanna suggest a Dell that does not run the most powerful OS on the planet? No go, my dear Enderle agent...:rolleyes:
I'll keep running Handbrake on my Q6600 not to mention Mencoder. This is under the ancient operating system of Windows XP. Please try harder next time.

My Q6600 beats my friend's E6600 in gaming at the same clock speed. I just have more cores.
 
Current apps, ESPECIALLY under Windows, do not benefit from quad core processors as well as they theoretically could; not to mention that multitasking in Windows is an utter crap when compared to OS X, be it under XP or Vista.

hate to break it to ya but that is just not true

it took me 2 hours to tape video from my camcorder to DVD on my mac, something that should have taken just under an hour if i had used XP but i didnt have my capture program installed so i decided to go that imovie idvd route, big mistake

my XP machine running Sony Vegas video editor LOVES my Q6600 it fully utilizes all 4 cores
 
That means it's time to buy my iMac, I guess. Can't see the point of waiting two or three (or more?) months for maybe an upgraded screen and graphics (don't game, and even for the graphic design i do, the iMac is still better than most PCs).

Wish the price would come down after six months on the market, though . . .
 
Man, sometimes I just wish Apple fitted their computer with better hardware. I mean look at all the goodies that dell has. I just wish Apple would offer that. I'm like drooling of the specs of that Dell machine, and just wish OSX was on it.
 
Why because they didn't give you everything you wanted, I'm sure Apple is shaking in their boots. :p

Heh, no, because they're charging the same price for old equipment. My PC of seven years died last week, and I was looking to replace it with an iMac, potentially, but the all-in-one design (I have a perfectly serviceable DVI-capable monitor left over) coupled with the aging specs has made me think twice.

I can build a machine for a little over two-thirds of the price of an entry-level iMac that has double the cores, 25% more L2, quadruple the RAM (and faster: 1333 MHz vs 800), faster FSB, a newer graphics card with four times the video RAM, and an equivalent size and resolution monitor, the only downside of which is that it runs windows Vista.

I could also order one of equivalent specs, and as an all-in-one, from DELL for a little over half the price, too.

And, of course while I recognize that the monitor is part of the price of the apple product, it's really kind of redundant for my situation, and I can save a hundred or two more by just.. not buying one.

So Apple telling us that it definitely won't update the products is a clear signal ... to not bother waiting and suffering on my backup machine to see what comes out next, but instead to go ahead and buy a windows machine and hope the specs (and whatever 3rd party software I can get for the $500--$700 in savings) are sufficient to just power through any inefficiencies.

$500 buys a lot of pro-sumer level Adobe products, and they're a lot more functional than the teaser products you'd get in iLife anyway.

Now, if they'd drop the prices to account for the opportunity decay inherent in the electronics devices, even with older equipment (it's not THAT bad) and higher prices (they don't have to be dollar-for spec equal to the PC world to be worth the price), I'd actually have a decision to make. I'd like to buy an iMac, but it's just hard to justify at the current price & spec combo.
 
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