They won't put glass in the MBP. The glare would be ridiculous. Matte is so much better.
Yeah, the Genius bar people are idiots.
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Apple Notebook Updates on October 14th? 120GB MacBook Air HDD?
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They won't put glass in the MBP. The glare would be ridiculous. Matte is so much better.
What is the best MBP we could expect by 10-14-08
Let's look at this another way. Given a launch date of 10-14-08 and the best actually "available" hardware from Intel et al (CPU, HD, RAM supported by the CPU architecture, display size/resolution and Graphics card) what is the best we could expect for the MacBook Pro? This would not include chip sets or drives not yet available within the Apple shipping/availability window but could include CTO/BTO.
Let's look at this another way. Given a launch date of 10-14-08 and the best actually "available" hardware from Intel et al (CPU, HD, RAM supported by the CPU architecture, display size/resolution and Graphics card) what is the best we could expect for the MacBook Pro? This would not include chip sets or drives not yet available within the Apple shipping/availability window but could include CTO/BTO.
Is the Montevina based CPU more likely than a Intel Core 2 Extreme quad-core mobile processor that runs at a frequency of 2.53GHz and includes 12M bytes of L2 cache? Thinking that the MacBook Pro is already behind the curve versus the HP 8730W and Lenovo W700. Is there a new CPU that is going to top the Intel Core 2 Extreme quad-core mobile in October?
or maybe... Blue Ray Isn't Comin Kids!...
call me a complete luddite but what is blue ray? I am new to some of this stuff...doh! i also realise that for some my question has just sparked a whole load of "WHA!!?? is this person for real?! where have they been?"... i've been 'left behind' but now looking forward to entering the 21st century if someone would do me the honour....Well its a "made up" event right now so obviously any name for it is also "made up".
or maybe... Blue Ray Isn't Comin Kids!...
Blu-ray is a device used to run down the battery of a laptop so can charge it from a dead battery rather than wait or do it from half way.
It does this by playing high quality videos and storing large amounts of data.
Heh, sorry. It's a great technology, however people disagree over whether Apple is ready to take it up (especially on laptops). I hope this doesn't start a big blu-ray argument. If Apple think the MBP is ready then great, if not I'm sure there's a worthwhile reason!
Haha, don't worry wasn't trying to start an arguement. I for one am buying the new MacBook upon release and couldn't care less if it included a Blu-Ray player or not! I'm not a huge fan of watching movies anyway!
As long as there's a DVD burner (which there ill be) i'll be happy. Once Blu-Ray is oincluded i'll only use it for back-up purposes anyway, as I do with DVD now.
AnDy
totally!
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Originally Posted by THX1139 View Post
I've been predicting 2nd week of October for the couple of months but no one listened. Now it looks like others are getting on the bandwagon. It's not hard to figure out. August/September is all about going back to school promotion and iPods. That leaves October as the most likely month - so that we don't get too far into the holiday season. Since it's been over 6 months since the last upgrade I knew that they couldn't wait until the first of the year at MacWorld. Picking the second week of October was just a hunch. Let's hope I'm right because I could sure use a new laptop.
The August rumor was good enough for me , though - There were no NEW MacBook Pro , nor Macbook 6 months ago-it was just cosmetics - enough to say it was "the new one" -there is nothing new in the models except for the doubtful cpu "bump" ( 4 MB L2 cache became 3MB !?) and the new multitouch trackpads( nice ,still significantly smaller than the ones you'd find it the MacBook air !?!?) and the useless double size of video ram ? what for -those machines are underclocked ,there is no chance of sensing the difference .
SO now , in my opinion,here they are- the very same laptops since ..well more than an year //they were screaming for an overhaul back than already///
I found the "august rumor" a bit late , but ok.
bring the new stuff--HP,Dell ..etc are selling new stuff.
it's your turn !
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Originally Posted by THX1139 View Post
I've been predicting 2nd week of October for the couple of months but no one listened. Now it looks like others are getting on the bandwagon. It's not hard to figure out. August/September is all about going back to school promotion and iPods. That leaves October as the most likely month - so that we don't get too far into the holiday season. Since it's been over 6 months since the last upgrade I knew that they couldn't wait until the first of the year at MacWorld. Picking the second week of October was just a hunch. Let's hope I'm right because I could sure use a new laptop.
I think most people don't want to be on that bandwagon. We wanted September release ;( I liked the Sept rumors best. Now I like the Oct rumors best,
The August rumor was good enough for me , though - There were no NEW MacBook Pro , nor Macbook 6 months ago-it was just cosmetics - enough to say it was "the new one" -there is nothing new in the models except for the doubtful cpu "bump" ( 4 MB L2 cache became 3MB !?) and the new multitouch trackpads( nice ,still significantly smaller than the ones you'd find it the MacBook air !?!?) and the useless double size of video ram ? what for -those machines are underclocked ,there is no chance of sensing the difference .
SO now , in my opinion,here they are- the very same laptops since ..well more than an year //they were screaming for an overhaul back than already///
I found the "august rumor" a bit late , but ok.
bring the new stuff--HP,Dell ..etc are selling new stuff.
it's your turn !when i do finally buy one of the 'new' macbooks...whenever that is (my first apple...swoon) , i am going to take my current 'windows' laptop and ............!(fill in the blank!).
Apples are good for you. In case of emergencies windows are useful to open - although if i had to rely on opening microsoft windows in an emergency i would probably die of smoke inhilation or worse before it got round to it!
i have a dream... that one day i will no longer have to sit watching egg timers for hours or have 'not responding' permanently attached to my open programmes, where my laptop will just do what i need it to do when i need it to do it, and not when it sees fit! Come on apple....you're gonna b so good for me!
Apples are good for you. In case of emergencies windows are useful to open - although if i had to rely on opening microsoft windows in an emergency i would probably die of smoke inhilation or worse before it got round to it!
i have a dream... that one day i will no longer have to sit watching egg timers for hours or have 'not responding' permanently attached to my open programmes, where my laptop will just do what i need it to do when i need it to do it, and not when it sees fit! Come on apple....you're gonna b so good for me!
is it me or does SJ kind of hints that they are coming?
Taken from appleinsider.com, when the interviewer asked about the Macs, SJ replied:
"Between what we introduced in iPods and the new iTunes 8 with the Genius playlist feature; we had a lot to talk about today," he said. "And..., you know, the invite we sent out said Let's Rock!. So we were trying to...you know..."
Taken from appleinsider.com, when the interviewer asked about the Macs, SJ replied:
"Between what we introduced in iPods and the new iTunes 8 with the Genius playlist feature; we had a lot to talk about today," he said. "And..., you know, the invite we sent out said Let's Rock!. So we were trying to...you know..."
Montevina is a systemboard chipset, not a CPU. Montevina uses Penryn CPUs just like the current Santa Rosa systemboards do.
Both current mobile quad-cores are too hot to run in the current MacBook Pro enclosure. So a new enclosure would need more powerful (and louder) cooling in order to dissipate the extra heat generated.
I think what we will see is:
- the 2.6GHz T9500 replaced by the new 2.8GHz T9600
- the 2.5GHz T9300 replaced with the new 2.53GHz T9400
- the 2.4GHz T8300 to be replaced with the 2.4GHz P8600
oh c'mon c'mon c'mon.... 14th October is the latest I can wait! I have a gig on 17/10 and would need a few days to find one!
How quick do Apple Stores tend to get their hands on new MacBooks? If I go stand in line on the 14th am I going to get looked at funny?
How quick do Apple Stores tend to get their hands on new MacBooks? If I go stand in line on the 14th am I going to get looked at funny?
oh c'mon c'mon c'mon.... 14th October is the latest I can wait! I have a gig on 17/10 and would need a few days to find one!
How quick do Apple Stores tend to get their hands on new MacBooks? If I go stand in line on the 14th am I going to get looked at funny?
I'm guessing pretty quick. I can't see it being like the iPhone where people queue for hours. More like the recently introduced iPods. Many shops have them and no where seems to be sold out. Well not in England anyways..
I think this is correct.
I hope for two additional things for the MBP:
- that an SSD option will be included
- that it gets a redesign à la MB Air. Not that the current design is bad (far from it), but when I look at my 5 year old Powerbook G4, it's basically the same design, albeit a little thinner. Time for something fresh, I guess
While I agree with your analysis, I hope they do more than that. Taking into account that Apple said that margins will be lower for the next year or so, I hope they choose to offer in standard models what they are currently offering as BTO:
1)
2.53GHz cpu replacing the 2.4GHz cpu
2.80GHz cpu replacing the 2.5GHz cpu
2)
For the 17" model, the 1920*1200 display standard (instead of BTO)
For the 15" model, a new 1680*1050 display standard
This way, the MacBook line would use 2.26/2.40GHz cpus and the MB Pro line, the 2.53/2.80GHz cpus, adding more differentiation between lines.
If the BlackBook is "discontinued" (because of the "new" alu enclosure of the MacBook), then it makes room for another model that could be a 15" MacBook using the "old" 1440*900 display of the current 15" MBP.
The new lines of Apple's notebooks could look like that:
$1099 13" MacBook (1280*800) 2.26GHz X4500 GPU (using the LED-backlit display of the MBA)
$1299 13" MacBook (1280*800) 2.40GHz X4500 GPU (using the LED-backlit display of the MBA)
$1399 15" MacBook (1440*900) 2.26GHz X4500 GPU (using the current glossy 15" MBP display)
$1599 15" MacBook (1440*900) 2.40GHz X4500 GPU (using the current glossy 15" MBP display)
$1799 13" MacBook Air (1280*800) 1.86GHz X4500 GPU 120GB HDD
$1999 15" MacBook Pro (1680*1050) 2.53GHz dedicated GPU (new resolution LED-backlit display)
$2299 17" MacBook Pro (1920*1200) 2.53GHz dedicated GPU (the BTO display becomes standard)
$2399 13" MacBook Air (1280*800) 1.86GHz X4500 GPU 64-80GB SSD
$2499 15" MacBook Pro (1680*1050) 2.80GHz dedicated GPU (new resolution LED-backlit display)
$2799 17" MacBook Pro (1920*1200) 2.80GHz dedicated GPU (the BTO display becomes standard)
$2999 13" MacBook Air (1280*800) 1.86GHz X4500 GPU 128-160GB SSD
* Given the price difference between the SL 1.60GHz ($284) and the SL 1.86GHz ($316), Apple would be better off using only the 1.86GHz cpu in the MBA (economy of scale).
Given that Apple is revising their notebooks so late, I'd hope that they wouldn't just settle for Montrevina, but for the (better, in my opinion) nvidia chipset as some rumors and previous speculation suggest.
I think many would appreciate the improved dedicated graphics in the Macbook, as well as the potential for hybrid graphics in the Macbook Pro (I'm still hoping that Apple would come to their senses and put a video card in the Macbook, mind you).
EDIT: Also a price drop wouldn't hurt either.
I think many would appreciate the improved dedicated graphics in the Macbook, as well as the potential for hybrid graphics in the Macbook Pro (I'm still hoping that Apple would come to their senses and put a video card in the Macbook, mind you).
EDIT: Also a price drop wouldn't hurt either.
I have the opportunity to buy a Macbook today. But seeing as the new ones are coming out in about a month, should I wait for them? or just go ahead and by the Macbook today? I'm in school now and a laptop would really help. I also don't know if I can wait that long haha. It seems like a lifetime for me because I've been wanting a Macbook for about 2+ years now, and my dad always told me that " when you get into college..etc" and I'm here now so... What would your advice be?
Thanks in advance.
-Rodrigo
Thanks in advance.
-Rodrigo
Honestly , if you need it now , get it ....if you can wait , do so , there may not be a refresh in October ....this is a rumour site after all , that said it does look likely that something is about to happen so like I said if you need it get it or if you can hang on do so
....I'm on a G3 & hanging in there for a new notebook & Mini refresh ,what I'm trying to say is wait , use the library machines or something because .......some thing's coming ......
If I buy it now, then the updates come in Oct. Would it be possible, to somehow trade-in the old macbook for the newer one once all the hype about the Oct. refresh calms down a bit? or would I just have to sell it and buy the new one?
Another thing for the purchase today, rather than wait is the Education Discount, that's why I am leaning more towards today, then Oct.
Another thing for the purchase today, rather than wait is the Education Discount, that's why I am leaning more towards today, then Oct.
Been thinking if apple could go a different route here.
What if they plan to introduce the quad core to the 17" as well as the BR (as optional.)?
The 17" havent been suffering form the heatproblems as much as the smalle brethen and by size it could offer the capability to keeps things cool as well.
Let alone if they would decide to underclock the proc to 2.4/core,or something.
That way they would have the bragging rights "now macbookpros go 4 core AND blueray!!!"
Any one think that there is enough tolerances to implement the 4core to the 17"?
Pity that apparently the BR support comes apparently with 10.5.6 what is rumored...