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you get unlimited photo storage with iCloud

Not really. It deletes them after a period (can't remember how long) as its only designed for syncing/copying back to your mac. Sure you get 1000 photos that dont get deleted. However even for a family 1000 photos is nothing these days. In comparison Flickrs 1TB is enough to store over half a million photos.

iCloud remains a complete joke. It's essentially just MobileMe with a few bugfixes, it still provides a tiny amount of storage, and pretty piss poor features, with reliability you can't count on.
 
Not really. It deletes them after a period (can't remember how long) as its only designed for syncing/copying back to your mac. Sure you get 1000 photos that dont get deleted. However even for a family 1000 photos is nothing these days.

iCloud remains a complete joke. It's essentially just MobileMe with a few bugfixes, it still provides a tiny amount of storage, and pretty piss poor features, with reliability you can't count on.

Again, iCloud will store 1,000 photos without expiration in each shared photostream that you create. I am not aware of any limits on the number of shared photostreams that you can create.
 
Just sign up for SkyDrive for better email, better storage, cheaper upgrades, and better service.

How are you comparing SkyDrive to something BUILT INTO iOS?

SkyDrive doesn't handle iOS backups nor automatic cloud storage for apps. Thes two things are absolutely critical to even be in the same conversation, let alone a replacement.

I think the backups don't count towards your storage. In that case, no one with an iOS device has an excuse for not having up to date backups other than ignorance IMO.
 
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You should get 5gb for EACH iOS device you have purchased and are using. When you have multiple devices using the same iCloud account it can fill pretty quickly.
Totally agree. I'm paying for each device, so each device should get it's own 5GB allocation. And 5GB isn't really enough even for just iPhone backups.
 
iCloud remains a complete joke. It's essentially just MobileMe with a few bugfixes, it still provides a tiny amount of storage, and pretty piss poor features, with reliability you can't count on.

Complete joke? Piss poor features? :rolleyes:

Photostream and automatic backup have never failed for me. The automatic backup alone is far better than anything I've seen for any other mobile OS.
 
They've proven that they had the ability to accomodate for 100% of all MobileMe users having 20 GB,

Not every user has maxed out that 20gb, in fact most probably haven't.

And why should Apple have to pander to the self entitled attitudes, especially the ones that want to say 'but I've been x since . . .'. What next? Everyone that can claim they bought the original iPhone should get free updates and replacements for life even for broken phones just by walking in whenever they want and yelling 'gimme'

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Fine with me. With an iPad and 2 iPhones fully backed up, happy to pay for this service. To that person who said Flickr is giving you 1TB for
Photos: you get unlimited photo storage with iCloud

No you don't. You get 5gb in your backups and 1000 photos in your photo stream. That's not unlimited by any stretch
 
I wonder how much value articles like this add to the MR community as a whole...

Either this affects you and Apple already has/will email you... Or this doesn't affect you and thus probably don't care a whole lot.

It does NOT affect me personally, but I find the information interesting just the same. If nothing else it will make me more informed and knowledgeable for when a coworker, friend or family member asks me why their iCloud stuff suddenly stopped working.
 
But you can create multiple shared photostreams. Not sure if there is a limit on how many.

Some additional limits for Shared Photo Stream usage:

Maximum shared streams an owner can share: 100
Maximum shared streams a user can subscribe to: 100
Maximum subscribers per shared stream: 100 (the number of subscribers on each shared stream)
Maximum number of photos per shared stream: 1,000
Maximum number of comments per shared stream photo: 200 (a comment can be either a like or a text entry)
Maximum characters per comment: 200
Maximum number of invites a shared stream owner may send per day: 200

source
 
I wonder how much value articles like this add to the MR community as a whole...

Either this affects you and Apple already has/will email you... Or this doesn't affect you and thus probably don't care a whole lot.

I feel like Jordan G. is posting his personal whining threads to the front page.
 
it's what Apple do well!

....torpedo their own essential ecosystem. With Snow Leopard, they really broke into PC sales and business use and then they tried to outlaw it. It cost them and it's still costing them market share relative to what it might have been from that beachhead.

Life outside of the Apple ecosystem, with a Mac, is happy but sadly for Apple it makes switching back to PC's an easier option too.

For most peoples computer use, cloud based storage and syncing across multiple devices is increasingly essential - and Apple, who were first, are nowhere now.
 
With that said, I almost feel that Apple might have a plan to up the limit in the near future.

So they first want everyone to shrink their data down to 5GB, only to up the limit afterwards? :) I would say that this is a pretty good sign that Apple will not up the limit...
 
True what you're saying, who could argue but I will say Dropbox isn't the holy solution because they only offer 2GB free storage.

To begin with.

I have 8GB and haven't paid anything for it. It's simple to upgrade the capacity on Dropbox account.

Barely use iCloud now because it's far too inflexible. I use Dropbox to share files with anyone and my own Synology NAS acts as backup for all my devices.
 
Let's see… I used to subscribe to the print edition of the New York Times. Does that mean I should get the online edition free, for the rest of my life? (I certainly wouldn't mind, but it would not do much for the Times Corp's survival.)

It's not a matter of rewarding customer loyalty. There's no free 20gb (or some free bit of hardware) for people who loyally buy Macs for 20 years. The additional storage was done as a courtesy, in part to compensate subscribers for the transition from MobileMe to iCloud, and to give us time to manage/reduce our storage if desired. Anyone who thought that it was an indefinite commitment on Apple's part certainly didn't read the long series of emails that preceded and followed the MobileMe shutdown.

Customer loyalty is something earned, not something bought. It comes from having good products and good customer service. The customer has received good value for their money, and is happy to keep coming back. Customer loyalty is a reward to the company, for a job well done. I'd argue that the better the product, the less customers should be due for their "loyalty."

Companies that try to buy loyalty are doing it because too many customers are headed out the door (returning customer discounts, and the like). In other words, they stopped providing the quality of product/service the customer had come to expect.

There will always be some customers who will be unhappy and leave - nobody, anywhere, delivers 100% customer satisfaction (just consider the divorce rate!). Using the marital relationship analogy… when one partner starts making concessions in order to get the other to stay… it's not likely that some new bit of kinky sex is going to fix a broken relationship. "Well, that was fun, but sorry, I still hate your guts." Most likely, the departing partner wishes things were back to the way they used to be, in those perfect, early months of intense infatuation. Fat chance. The euphoria wears off. The question becomes, is there still gold beneath the surface, or was it just gold paint?
 
Here's something to consider. Yes, the storage is pricey, but Apple has built the greenest energy iCloud storage servers in the world; all solar and fuel cell powered.
 
Use Copy

I just use Copy to store all my data. They give you 15GB right off the bat, plus 5GB per referral.
 
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Looks like Apple are feeling the pinch, need to get more revenue in to keep there shareholders happy. Why on earth couldn't they give us 5GB per device, don't they just love pissing off there loyal customer base!

There's no way I can get my iCloud Storage down below 5GB so it looks like only option is to remove my iPad from iCloud Backup and Backup locally on my PC. iPhone is using 4.2GB so I've just got away with it there.

Other option of course is to bye more storage, no way Apple !
 
My feeling is Apple is going backwards instead of forward :rolleyes:

A compromise upgrade to storage would have been nice. Say 10 GB free.

On the other hand a yearly fee for iCould/MobileMe/whatever isn't really that bad. In fact it is worth it for an add free mail service that does reasonable spam and other maleware filtering. Worth it that is when the annual costs are contained.

So yeah a step backwards.
 
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