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Apple Now Accepting Donations to Southern Poverty Law Center Following Charlottesville Protests

citysnaps said:
Last you checked? That's such an adorable (and overused) trope.

Apple chose to address an issue that is affecting the US. As a US-based company, there is nothing wrong with that.


"It seems to want to be a SJW in America but kow-tow to oppressive governments where it needs to build marketshare."

Don't like that or the positions Apple chooses to take? Please, standup up, be courageous, and vote with your wallet. There are loads of tech choices out there.
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No, nothing wrong with that. But why now? SLPC has been around for a very long time. It's just NOW that Apple want's in. Racism, the KKK, Neo-Nazis... not new. Didn't start in Charlottesville. So it takes a sick-o to run down protesters for Apple to want to start taking donations for a wholly unrelated group that really doesn't need money? Yes, sounds like grand standing to me. C'ville was a tragedy but it wasn't a natural disaster.

I don't care what social positions Apple takes but they should be consistent. That is my point. Apple (and other companies) like to rush in when the publicity factor is ramped up to make itself look good. But then it conveniently ignores similar issues in other countries it does business, has offices, factories.
 
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brendu said:
See thats the thing, I love apple products. MUCH more so than the competition. I just wish apple wouldn't support groups who 1. do not need more money at all, and 2. mis label innocent people as participating in hate groups when they don't (which has happened too many times to be anything other than a liberal group trying to silence non liberal points of view).
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Well... If you really believe that, then it's important that you stand up and take a position that aligns with your beliefs. It's easy: Don't reward Apple with your hard-earned dollars.

There are plenty of options out there. You'll feel better knowing that that as a person of strong and good character, you're standing up for what you firmly believe in.
 
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Chupa Chupa said:
No, nothing wrong with that. But why now? SLPC has been around for a very long time. It's just NOW that Apple want's in. Racism, the KKK, Neo-Nazis... not new. Didn't start in Charlottesville. So it takes a sick-o to run down protesters for Apple to want to start taking donations for a wholly unrelated group that really doesn't need money? Yes, sounds like grand standing to me. C'ville was a tragedy but it wasn't a natural disaster.

I don't care what social positions Apple takes but they should be consistent. That is my point. Apple (and other companies) like to rush in when the publicity factor is ramped up to make itself look good. But then it conveniently ignores similar issues in other countries it does business, has offices, factories.
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Why now? Recent events have lead to what many believe is a tipping point and more action is required. And fast, as the situation can quickly get worse. I have no problem with Apple stepping in.
 
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Starflyer said:
12 Ways The Southern Poverty Law Center Is A Scam To Profit From Hate-Mongering

http://thefederalist.com/2017/05/17/12-ways-southern-poverty-law-center-scam-profit-hate-mongering/
[doublepost=1503317259][/doublepost]The Insidious Influence of the SPLC
Its branding of ‘hate groups’ and individuals is biased, sometimes false—and feeds polarization.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-insidious-influence-of-the-splc-1498085416


How Did Maajid Nawaz End Up on a List of 'Anti-Muslim Extremists'?
“They put a target on my head.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...ajid-nawaz-splc-anti-muslim-extremist/505685/
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I usually don't speak on the source of links posted......... but just WOW!!!! :confused::confused:o_O
 
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citysnaps said:
Well... If you really believe that, then it's important that you stand up and take a position that aligns with your beliefs. It's easy: Don't reward Apple with your hard-earned dollars.

There are plenty of options out there. You'll feel better knowing that that as a person of strong and good character, you're standing up for what you firmly believe in.
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No. I would rather buy apple products and deal with the fact that they support causes I may disagree with than buy tech products that are subpar in my opinion.
LIVEFRMNYC said:
I usually don't speak on the source of links posted......... but just WOW!!!! :confused::confused:o_O
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What is wrong with the Wall Street journal?
 
gatearray said:
So now, the SPLC is going to profit millions of dollars from the death of a woman in Charlottesville, did they hire the driver of the car? Qui bono?
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Yes, you nailed it.

Just like the ACLU worked it's butt off and spent huge amounts of money getting the current president elected. Why? In order to receive record donations from citizens across the US, as has actually happened. /s
 
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brendu said:
No. I would rather buy apple products and deal with the fact that they support causes I may disagree with than buy tech products that are subpar in my opinion.

What is wrong with the Wall Street journal?
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He likes ad hominem attacks.
 
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Oh great... If it wasn't bad enough that a couple of hundred clowns having a retarded get-together has caused practically the whole country to have a collective psychotic episode, they're now using this to push money in the pockets of probably the most dubious "civil rights" organization out there.

For those not familiar with the SPLC's more recent history, they've recently found that the KKK and other clear targets just aren't around as much (to nobody's surprise I might add) so they've instead chosen to go after liberals like Dave Rubin for criticizing the far left (calling him "alt right"), muslim critics of the violent Islamists like Maajid Nawaz (wrongly claiming that he supports policies that punish Muslims in general) and even moderate muslim reformers like Ayaan Hirsi Ali (who they call an islamophobe).

I have a feeling this could very well be the final nail in the coffin of the supposed American way... Deny everyone freedoms like the freedom of speech because of a small fringe of morons and adopt policies that wouldn't look out of place in Nazi Germany in an effort to supposedly fight fascism and racism. It's truly mindboggling to watch the general public essentially push the idea that the government, currently run by Trump and the Republicans, should have the same kind powers of censorship as the Ministry of Truth had in Orwell's 1984.
 
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citysnaps said:
Why now? Recent events have lead to what many believe is a tipping point and more action is required. And fast, as the situation can quickly get worse. I have no problem with Apple stepping in.
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Recent events? Again none of this is new. And it's typical MO for Apple and other companies. When there is a high profile event they come rushing in to "help" as if people couldn't donate with out them. Pick any high profile non-weather event. There they are like ambulance chasing lawyers.

And SPLC can't do anything to prevent what happened in C'Ville. That is law enforcements's job. So Apple isn't helping to solve anything here. But there are oppressed women in Saudi Arabia. There are a host of wildlife in Africa classified as vulnerable or worse -- partly due to mining and drilling, which Apple has a hand in both because of the parts it needs derived from minerals and oil and the way it makes it's products so disposable. I could go on and on with ways Apple could make a real difference to real problems but remains silent or ambiguous. SPLC isn't solving anything regarding violence. Never has, never will. Sorry.
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lunarworks said:
You guys would think Toys'R'Us was a left wing terrorist organization if Fox News told you it.
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Ideologically locked-in people are going to believe what they want -- always. What you say is true. Equally true is that leftists would believe that Uncle Scrooge is president of the John Birch society if reported as such on MSNBC. Goes both way. Ideologically lock-in people don't think for themselves no matter what end of the spectrum they are locked in to.
 
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AppleFan360 said:
Tim Cook is wrong. There IS a moral equivalence between the neo nazis and the people that violently appose them (the key word is "violently"). They are ALL idiots. Violence is not the answer no matter which side you are on.
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True, but one group had a permit to march and practice their 1st Amendment right to free speech, and the other group is throwing urine filled bottles at cops and attacking everyone that they disagree with. Not that I'm defending Neo Nazis or anything, I'm just defending their right to free speech. Whether you like it or not isn't the point.
 
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Zenithal said:
Just to add, if you don't like Apple becoming political, you're more than welcome to stop using their products. It would be best if you cease using Microsoft, Intel, Spotify, Google, IBM, et al. products, too.
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And by displaying such immense intellectual depth of your comment, you might consider the same for yourself.
 
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budselectjr said:
It’s gonna be hard but I gotta step away from Apple products. They really should have stayed out of this.
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Hat-tip to you should you chose to follow through.

I may disagree with your assessment. But I applaud your willingness to stand up and take personal responsibility. And action. Very few here will.
 
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nocturnum said:
And by displaying such immense intellectual depth of your comment, you might consider the same for yourself.
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Except I don't mind that Apple is setting this up. My comment was aimed squarely at Apple wanting a piece of the pie ($$$) as opposed to doing good. I hardly think anyone would care if the target of this product was to bolster the EFF.
 
I noticed the PC vs Mac users and Android vs iPhone users and DC vs Marvel users never kill each over from their hate. Maybe that can be an example for all people.
 
SPLC is not non-partisan or a-political. They are a left wing organization and define “hate” groups through a left wing lens. Tim Cook trying to paint Apple as being non-partisan is laughable. Why now is it so important for Apple to speak out? Why didn’t we get this memo after a congressman was shot by a Bernie supporting nut job?
 
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Zenithal said:
Except I don't mind that Apple is setting this up. My comment was aimed squarely at Apple wanting a piece of the pie ($$$) as opposed to doing good. I hardly think anyone would care if the target of this product was to bolster the EFF.
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I don't think Apple is aiming for the pie. It's another of Timmy's personal agendas that's hurting the company, since there is a great part of Apple's customer base that do not share his superficial approach to issues as sensitive as this one.
 
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