Apple Now Faces 26+ Lawsuits for 'Purposefully' or 'Secretly' Slowing Down Older iPhones

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

But why did they tell people the battery was fine then?

Where did they say that?

As I recall, they immediately offered a Free Battery to iPhone 6/6s owners that had batteries that were "defective" (less than 80% capacity with < 500 charge-cycles).
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So who is gonna tell these people that when you put your phone in your pocket and you're not using it, the processor throttles down to save battery... I'm sure they didn't pay for a fast phone just so it can throttle to "save power" when they are not using it.

That's just silly.

 

[TheHammer]

Didn’t used to happen. They skimped on battery quality from iPhone 6 up.

It did happened, it happened to Myself and a few people I know. What’s interesting is after update in never actually noticed a speed difference. Sure geek bench scores show a slowdown but what impact did it have in the real would? I never noticed any


EDIT: Actualy I read your comment again, ignore me...

 

[rafark]

I understand a battery will age but what makes me so upset is that my battery was tested as fine, and my phone was still slowed down. I want the option to turn the slowdown off.

As I've previously said, you can no longer blindly trust them.

They can introduce that option as a "facade" but still have the phones intentionally slowed down and blame new iOS versions for it and do any sorts of tricks with benchmarks.

 

[rootee]

"Keep in mind that Apple is not permanently or persistently slowing down older iPhones. Even if your iPhone is affected, the performance limitations only happen intermittently, and only when the device is completing demanding tasks."

This above quote is from the article -- how can i believe it to be true, when my iPhone 6, with a 6-month-old battery, and >90% capacity (according to Apple diagnostic) has the CPU throttle to 1127 MHz when the battery charge dips to <90%, and STAYS THERE until the battery is recharged ??? Is it always performing demanding tasks ?

 

[magicschoolbus]

GIT EM1!111!!!!!

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

It never does. It works only for lawyers.

That was my point. Sorry I didn't include an eyeroll emoji... ;-)

 

[639051]

I'm out -- Google Pixel 2 + Google Fi here I come !

Loving my Pixel 2 XL .. fantastic phone.

 

[rootee]

For Apple's sake, and for iPhone users, I hope AAPL stock tanks for this. Ultimately, it's the only way things will change.

 

[jav6454]

That was my point. Sorry I didn't include an eyeroll emoji... ;-)

However, that many lawasuits will trigger that. Any judge will do it. Turn 23+ into 1.

 

[Norbs12]

For Apple's sake, and for iPhone users, I hope AAPL stock tanks for this. Ultimately, it's the only way things will change.

Smart, buy the dip.

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

They were slowing them down to hide serious battery defects to avoid having to issue a recall on millions of iPhones.

Unintended consequence was that people thought their phone was old due to the new slowness and spent $800+ on a new iPhone.

Prove it.

 

[apolloa]

WHAT "cover up"? More like a "Typically vague Release-Note". BIG Difference.

And think about the MASSIVE application-envelope of something like an iPhone. There is literally NO WAY Apple could fuzz their usage-data to come up with anything more accurate than a statistical-mean, which would be WILDLY inaccurate for, well, a class-action-lawsuit's worth of users.

You're still ascribing Malice to Miscalculation.

People like you just don’t get it, you fail to understand what people are saying, I’m not going to repeat it as it’s been said so many times now.

 

[rootee]

Prove it.

Tim Cook himself couldn't have said it any better. Kudos!

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

Please, stop being so apologist for Apple. They can use higher quality batteries like Samsung, which retain a majority of their capacity after 500 charging cycles, for starters.

So Samsung says...

 

[nviz22]

Apple will probably settle with so many lawsuits. The Reddit user who did the tests helped out iOS users since Apple will have to be more transparent with its battery stats in future iOS updates.

 

[rafark]

As I said, it is not in the mindset of Product Design engineers to think about how a product will perform multiple-years down the road, unless they are designing a product like a switch or connector, where "number of operations" is a universally-considered spec.

Sorry, but anyone who calls himself a professional has to design with future in mind, as well as other external factors. That applies to any profesional from engineers to architects to scientists. Every reputable company has an estimate of the life span of their products, that's very basic, and of course Apple know how long their products and every single component in them should last under certain conditions.

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

Apple is 100% guilty. The reason I upgraded to the iPhone 7 was because my 6s slowed down so dramatically, and the battery wouldn’t even last me all day at work, after the 10.2.1 downgrade.

You make no sense.

If the phone slowed down dramatically, then the battery-drain should have gone DOWN, making the batter last LONGER after you installed 10.2.1.

Nice try.
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Sure there is. Make them user replaceable, like they should be.

And like NO ONE else does at this point.

 

[rootee]

Sorry, but anyone who calls himself a professional has to design with future in mind, as well as other external factors. That applies to any profesional from engineers to architects and scientists. Every reputable company has an estimate of the life span of their products, that's very basic, and of course Apple know how long their products should last under certain conditions.

That's absolutely right! College engineering programs have entire semester-long courses on failure rate analysis, six-sigma production, high-reliability engineering, and best of all engineering ETHICS. In fact, you can make failure-rate-analysis a career!

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

Treat your customers right by allowing them to fix it or replace parts rather than soldering them would help their situation

What?

You can replace the battery in an iPhone. It's really not even that challenging.
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"Keep in mind that Apple is not permanently or persistently slowing down older iPhones. Even if your iPhone is affected, the performance limitations only happen intermittently, and only when the device is completing demanding tasks.

The above is NOT TRUE Joe, and you should stop repeating it.
Apple has stated that things such as app launches, frame rates etc. are effected. These are NOT peak processor times.

They aren't???

Guess we've identified the NON-DEVELOPER here...

 

[bladerunner2000]

Good. But also bad because you know Apple will pull some shady crap to screw over consumers and make up for this loss. Consumers will NOT win this in the end.

 

[rootee]

Good. But also bad because you know Apple will some shady crap to screw over consumers to make up for this loss. Consumers will NOT win this in the end.

People go on, companies do not. Consumers always win, because they move on to other products. Always.

 

[apolloa]

I remember my old iPhone 5 and 5s would drop to 5% battery power and NEVER shut off. What is this about phones suddenly shutting down after the power drained? I owned the iPhone 5 and 5s for 3 years between the two of them. Never had a sudden shutdown issue.

Yeap, I’ve owned 8 or 9 iOS devices, and I can’t even count how many other mobile phones and another three tablets over the years. NOT ONE has ever shut down when the battery charge level reached 20% or 30%, yet this is a pointless fact less defense constantly being pushed in here by apologists as ‘normal’ behaviour... it’s ridiculous!

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

People like you just don’t get it, you fail to understand what people are saying, I’m not going to repeat it as it’s been said so many times now.

What I don't "get" is the people that insist that this is some sort of evil conspiracy on the part of Apple.

I am an embedded designer with 4 decades of hardware/software development experience. I can EASILY see how all this happened.

Without exception, the people that are yelling the loudest are the same people with the LEAST amount of actual technical knowledge/experience.

 

[rootee]

Yeap, I’ve owned 8 or 9 iOS devices, and I can’t even count how many other mobile phones and another three tablets over the years. NOT ONE has ever shut down when the battery charge level reached 20% or 30%, yet this is a pointless fact less defense constantly being pushed in here by apologists... it’s ridiculous!

I've also never had random shutdowns, in any device I've ever owned. Never! Well said.

 

[Bawstun]

Stacking up...

Anybody else think the shareholders won’t vote to replace Tim Cook over this?