And leaving your devices open to malware and known exploits. Don't do this unless you have computer and network security expertise! (Maybe caring4someone does?)
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Apple Now Faces 26+ Lawsuits for 'Purposefully' or 'Secretly' Slowing Down Older iPhones
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And leaving your devices open to malware and known exploits. Don't do this unless you have computer and network security expertise! (Maybe caring4someone does?)
I don’t want any throttling and want it last more than 2 years for $1000 please. Is that impossible? Well, I thought that’s what o bought...
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And no shutting down..
So say the only the people with no declared credentials in computer security. On the other hand, Apple has been reported to employ several computer security researchers. Who would you trust?
Your iPhone is already exposed to exploits (known and unknown). Eg. Intel Meltdown and Spectre. Are you going to stop using your iPhone?
Are there any major exploits/malware affecting older iPads and iPhones that can't get iOS 11 making the news, ones that are actually causing havoc with those devices? Keep in mind meltdown and sceptre were discovered months ago and just now got patched. [There is probably a large number of them older devices that work just fine out in the wild along with users on other devices that just don't want iOS 11.
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meltdown was patched in 11.2 and sceptre patched today in 11.2.2
There are known and unknown risks to getting out of bed and walking out the front door every day. That doesn't mean one should also take up chain-smoking and driving after drinking.
I can confirm there are no exploits or malware affecting my iPod Touch 2G, running iOS 6. lol.
Spectre cannot be fixed by software updates or releases - it can only be mitigated.
We need to remind ourselves that iOS was designed from the ground up for security - it is one of the most secure OS in the world - even the FBI struggled to unlock an iPhone when they had physical access to the phone. How is anyone going to hack an iPhone without physical access (unless they buy a $200k blackmarket hack - in which case who are you and why are you a VIP target)?
If you want to keep throwing $1,000s at the cash cow every one or two years, then that is your perogative. However from my viewpoint there is a considered and acceptable security risk.
Your answer is too simple—that's the problem.
You're making a giant leap there. That doesn't mean there is something inherently wrong with the phone. It's just the nature of lithium ion batteries. Samsung phones have been doing the same thing for years as well. Google it.
Yes.
And there is a 100% risk when updating iOS that Apple will slowdown your phone and you will be paying for an upgrade (once the 1 year offer of battery replacement runs out - if your phone even qualified for the battery replacement the first place).
I know on which side I'll get out of bed each morning.
That's not how lithium ion batteries work. You mean you can't afford $79 for a new battery a few years down the road for a phone you paid a grand for?
No. I think he would prefer that he is told why the phone is running slow and what he can do to resolve it. And we are talking about phones just over a year old as well.
Your proposal is acceptable.
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They could instead decide to not over-stress their batteries to begin with.
Now, let's drag down everyone on this, because if Apple has this problem, everyone else must do too!
Then tell me, why people are not bringing 24 lawsuits against Samsung? Have you consider the possibility that it may not be as widespread an issue as it is for Apple?
You are making it sound like we are bitching about "slightly" slower performance in the tradeoff of stability. I wouldn't call a device slowed to a grind to be any better than a phone that just shuts down.
Nope. Non-zero, but also not 100%. I have several old iPhones, all updated, none of them slower (according to benchmarks) than when new. Many others report the same in several other MacRumors forums. So it’s not just me.
But the statistics here are all biased. I can’t wait to find out what the real percentage is from an independent research report. It may well be only a few percent have bad batteries too early.
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I wonder if it has already been given some thoughts and attention.
Growing suspicions show that Apple is now targeting laptop and desktop models after mobile devices. The suspicion is that they are essentially doing the same: purposefully and secretly rendering the hardware of several older MacBook and iMac models useless.
Apple has so far failed to even acknowledge the existence of the problem let alone rolling out or promising any fix for it. Please see this forum thread: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8086941?start=0&tstart=0
There are some off topic comments there, but it's worth to read it through, most users posting to the thread confirm they have the same symptoms:
- on external display, overheating when there's no CPU or GPU load associated with anything
- fan speed constantly high
- sometimes CPU goes haywire and gets stuck on 100% until external display is disconnected
- even with NO external display, overheating never stops, CPU and PCIe slot temperatures never go below 50 C
- when PCIe slot temperature goes above 61 C, the system become unstable and useless, video playback freezes and does not work anymore, etc.
Everyone says, these symptoms definitely started right after High Sierra upgrade, same for me.
Apple have failed to respond to growing user concerns and in my view it's very likely they have no intention to respond to or address this issue as they have done it deliberately, trying to force their customers to buy new products.
I wonder if it has already been given some thoughts and attention.
Growing suspicions show that Apple is now targeting laptop and desktop models after mobile devices. The suspicion is that they are essentially doing the same: purposefully and secretly rendering the hardware of several older MacBook and iMac models useless.
Apple has so far failed to even acknowledge the existence of the problem let alone rolling out or promising any fix for it. Please see this forum thread: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8086941?start=0&tstart=0
There are some off topic comments there, but it's worth to read it through, most users posting to the thread confirm they have the same symptoms:
- on external display, overheating when there's no CPU or GPU load associated with anything
- fan speed constantly high
- sometimes CPU goes haywire and gets stuck on 100% until external display is disconnected
- even with NO external display, overheating never stops, CPU and PCIe slot temperatures never go below 50 C
- when PCIe slot temperature goes above 61 C, the system become unstable and useless, video playback freezes and does not work anymore, etc.
Everyone says, these symptoms definitely started right after High Sierra upgrade, same for me.
Apple have failed to respond to growing user concerns and in my view it's very likely they have no intention to respond to or address this issue as they have done it deliberately, trying to force their customers to buy new products.
I don't know that anyone is saying that the hardware is deliberately slowed down with iOS updates, but rather that the software overburdens the hardware.
The hardware still runs at the same speed but the added bloat means the OS takes longer to do everything (such as opening apps).
Are you talking about throttling based on battery health? Because the data at Geekbench is as comprehensive as it gets, and they are independent.
I think the OS nag factor is where Apple may get snagged. It could be argued that if they didn't aggressively encourage users to update the OS, they might not do it and they'd get better performance out of older phones.
No but it does mean that Apple is skimping on the quality of the battery.
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Yea they can make better quality batteries. My 1st generation iPad still charges and holds it very well. They are just making the batteries too cheaply now.
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People seem to forget there were iPhones before iPhone 6. There are many ways for Apple to slow down a device without users knowing how or why.
Maybe more customers like the performance boost slim iOS devices get by being able to run closer to the battery’s limit. If you want a slower mobile with a bigger battery, there are other vendors.