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MR (if they’re behind this) have outdone themselves with this one and deserve a pat on the back. Also, Google will like the crushed look of the Apple App Store logo in its dreams. 🤣
I thought it was more like a curtain in mid drop revealing the number behind it :)
 
The enrollment seems necessary to me. It asks the developer whether they own other accounts so it makes sense that they need you to enroll. They want you to affirm whether or not you own multiple accounts that add up to more than 1 million

I just clicked through the link in the macrumors story. App Store Connect has a tendency to break down every now and then in the way you mention where pages don't load - keep trying I suppose.
the link wasn't working for me but I kept trying and it just worked.

Thanks MR for the reminder!
 
So Google charges 30% too. When do you think they will follow Apple’s lead? Microsoft charges 30% also. What about them?
 
Beat me to it! I appreciate this, but it's silly that devs need to apply for this. I also don't understand the restrictions around app transfers.
I just enrolled. Of course we have to apply for this as we have to agree to the terms of the agreement. But, it was as easy as clicking "yes" 4 times.
 
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So for those enrolled, does the 15% apply to the $$ under $1m USD and the 30% applies to all monies after that? Or do you get bumped up to 30% once you hit $1,000,001?
It's not like government taxes, Apple takes their cut before giving you yours. So I would think that every sale after $1 million would start being taxed at %30.
 
It's not like government taxes, Apple takes their cut before giving you yours. So I would think that every sale after $1 million would start being taxed at %30.
No it’s based on annual profit (after Apple’s cut).
 
It actually protects developers to have to opt-in. Otherwise, Apple can automatically opt them into all kinds of things.
So does the 2nd year subscription cut changing from 30% to 15% require developer opt-in?
 
No, it really is ridiculous.

There is absolutely no reason you should need to apply for anything.
How Apple might know the following if developer were not required to enroll?!?!?!?

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Ridiculous? No, it's not. The terms and conditions have changed and the applicant must agree to them. Not a biggie. Though I suspect some here will believe there's something nefarious going on.
Nefarious beliefs aside, whatever they may be, it's unnecessary and poor user experience. Apple already has every developer's data, this should be an automated process. They're more than happy to automate processes when it involves taking money from users and devs.
 
The fact that you have to enroll in this when clearly they could instantly run a report and decide who pays what rate is ridiculous.
I just enrolled twice. I have 2 developer accounts. Why? Because 6 years ago I moved from the UK to NZ and tried to move my app business too only to find 1/2 way through the process that my best selling apps were blocked from transfer due to using iCloud. I've been waiting patiently for this to be lifted while stuck with 2 accounts.
When I enrolled today I had to declare these accounts on each enrolment application.
In Apple's defence this is why they have enrolment - to stop developers spreading their earnings across multiple accounts to stay under the $1million threshold.
Shouldn't affect me - I hope!
However one troubling rule they put in is transferring apps. If you transfer either now or after the program starts you get kicked off it.... That sucks... I don't see the reasoning for that rule and it just makes an already difficult system near impossible now.

"App transfers are not allowed while participating in the program. If you initiate an app transfer after December 31, 2020, or accept a transfer of an app that was initiated after December 31, 2020, you will no longer be eligible to participate in program."
 
Nefarious beliefs aside, whatever they may be, it's unnecessary and poor user experience. Apple already has every developer's data, this should be an automated process. They're more than happy to automate processes when it involves taking money from users and devs.

See Post #39.

You should contact Apple's legal department and let them know it's unnecessary. They may be able to provide some assistance to you in understanding what's required. Please report back what they say in return.
 
No it’s based on annual profit (after Apple’s cut).
So if I make $1,176,470.59 ($1,000,000.00 after Apples %15), then if I make another $1, that would put my profits over $1 million, and I would then owe $176,469.89 to Apple for the extra %15 (for a total of 30%)? or are you just saying that the 30% just happens over $1 million of your profits, not total sales?
 
The fact that you have to enroll in this when clearly they could instantly run a report and decide who pays what rate is ridiculous.
It’s not that simple, what if they have another developer account or another business that makes billions tho less than 1$b on the AppStore.

Also they is the legal side.
 
I know this won't impact Fortnite, but does this having anything to do with their actions? And doesn't this highlight how arbitrary the fees are?
 
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So if I make $1,176,470.59 ($1,000,000.00 after Apples %15), then if I make another $1, that would put my profits over $1 million, and I would then owe $176,469.89 to Apple for the extra %15 (for a total of 30%)? or are you just saying that the 30% just happens over $1 million of your profits, not total sales?
The first million that is payed out to you has had 15% cut taken from it, which means you earned $1,176,470.59, like you said. After that, you will have 30% taken off further earnings.

Apples cut isn't included anywhere in my accounting. It's never listed as revenue, it doesn't get transferred to an account, and it doesn't affect tax liabilities. It's purely a consignment charge. It's never included in any bookkeeping because it doesn't exist.

Also, all state, provincial and federal tax is automatically collected and remitted on my behalf and I get a statement of remittance at year end so even that is taken care of. Apple seriously does earn their cut, unlike Google who has recently been forced into tax remittance (by law) by every country in the world and every state in the U.S. because they refused to take any fiscal responsibility for their global Play Store.
 
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The first million that is payed out to you has had 15% cut taken from it, which means you earned $1,176,470.59, like you said. After that, you will have 30% taken off further earnings.

Apples cut isn't included anywhere in my accounting. It's never listed as revenue, it doesn't get transferred to an account, and it doesn't affect tax liabilities. It's purely a consignment charge. It's never included in any bookkeeping because it doesn't exist.

Also, all state, provincial and federal tax is automatically collected and remitted on my behalf and I get a statement of remittance at year end so even that is taken care of. Apple seriously does earn their cut, unlike Google who has recently been forced into tax remittance (by law) by every country in the world and every state in the U.S. because they refused to take any fiscal responsibility for their global Play Store.
Thanks for clearing that up. 👍
 
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