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Apple Now Letting Developers Enroll for Reduced 15% App Store Fees
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I thought it was more like a curtain in mid drop revealing the number behind it
I just clicked through the link in the macrumors story. App Store Connect has a tendency to break down every now and then in the way you mention where pages don't load - keep trying I suppose.
The enrollment seems necessary to me. It asks the developer whether they own other accounts so it makes sense that they need you to enroll. They want you to affirm whether or not you own multiple accounts that add up to more than 1 million
Thanks MR for the reminder!
the link wasn't working for me but I kept trying and it just worked.
Thanks MR for the reminder!
It's to keep developers from shuffling revenue to their other companies and thereby avoiding the 30% bump.
Yes it ridiculous that you have to do something to get the reduced rates. In todays society of me, me, me it should be just given to you.
I just enrolled. Of course we have to apply for this as we have to agree to the terms of the agreement. But, it was as easy as clicking "yes" 4 times.
Epic doesn’t speak for the entire Developer community. They sure did try though, I think they learned a lesson.
It's not like government taxes, Apple takes their cut before giving you yours. So I would think that every sale after $1 million would start being taxed at %30.
So does the 2nd year subscription cut changing from 30% to 15% require developer opt-in?
How Apple might know the following if developer were not required to enroll?!?!?!?
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Nefarious beliefs aside, whatever they may be, it's unnecessary and poor user experience. Apple already has every developer's data, this should be an automated process. They're more than happy to automate processes when it involves taking money from users and devs.
I just enrolled twice. I have 2 developer accounts. Why? Because 6 years ago I moved from the UK to NZ and tried to move my app business too only to find 1/2 way through the process that my best selling apps were blocked from transfer due to using iCloud. I've been waiting patiently for this to be lifted while stuck with 2 accounts.
When I enrolled today I had to declare these accounts on each enrolment application.
In Apple's defence this is why they have enrolment - to stop developers spreading their earnings across multiple accounts to stay under the $1million threshold.
Shouldn't affect me - I hope!
However one troubling rule they put in is transferring apps. If you transfer either now or after the program starts you get kicked off it.... That sucks... I don't see the reasoning for that rule and it just makes an already difficult system near impossible now.
"App transfers are not allowed while participating in the program. If you initiate an app transfer after December 31, 2020, or accept a transfer of an app that was initiated after December 31, 2020, you will no longer be eligible to participate in program."
See Post #39.
You should contact Apple's legal department and let them know it's unnecessary. They may be able to provide some assistance to you in understanding what's required. Please report back what they say in return.
So if I make $1,176,470.59 ($1,000,000.00 after Apples %15), then if I make another $1, that would put my profits over $1 million, and I would then owe $176,469.89 to Apple for the extra %15 (for a total of 30%)? or are you just saying that the 30% just happens over $1 million of your profits, not total sales?
It’s not that simple, what if they have another developer account or another business that makes billions tho less than 1$b on the AppStore.
Also they is the legal side.
I know this won't impact Fortnite, but does this having anything to do with their actions? And doesn't this highlight how arbitrary the fees are?
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The first million that is payed out to you has had 15% cut taken from it, which means you earned $1,176,470.59, like you said. After that, you will have 30% taken off further earnings.
Apples cut isn't included anywhere in my accounting. It's never listed as revenue, it doesn't get transferred to an account, and it doesn't affect tax liabilities. It's purely a consignment charge. It's never included in any bookkeeping because it doesn't exist.
Also, all state, provincial and federal tax is automatically collected and remitted on my behalf and I get a statement of remittance at year end so even that is taken care of. Apple seriously does earn their cut, unlike Google who has recently been forced into tax remittance (by law) by every country in the world and every state in the U.S. because they refused to take any fiscal responsibility for their global Play Store.