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So for those enrolled, does the 15% apply to the $$ under $1m USD and the 30% applies to all monies after that? Or do you get bumped up to 30% once you hit $1,000,001?
If you go over $1,000,000 then the 30% is for anything over the $1,000,000 in that year.
 
Nefarious beliefs aside, whatever they may be, it's unnecessary and poor user experience. Apple already has every developer's data, this should be an automated process. They're more than happy to automate processes when it involves taking money from users and devs.
Are you a developer? Have you actually gone through the application process? Because it asks 4 simple questions and clearly spells out the rules for the discount. It took me around 1minute to apply. It was that easy.
 
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The fact that you have to enroll in this when clearly they could instantly run a report and decide who pays what rate is ridiculous.
You sound like an idiot. Are you even a developer? If so, have you bothered to do the application process? It took me about a minute to do it. I can’t imagine that there is a single developer eligible in the world that doesn’t have one minute of time to take to give themselves a 15% pay rise. Seriously, stop trolling.
 
Beat me to it! I appreciate this, but it's silly that devs need to apply for this. I also don't understand the restrictions around app transfers.
It took 1 minute of my time to apply and it clearly spells out the rules. So easy, nothing to complain about. The restrictions around app transfers is simple. They don’t want people transferring apps around to “other developers” to avoid going over the $1,000,000. Makes perfect sense.
 
No, it really is ridiculous.
You have to apply to earn more, if you fall under a threshold.
Apple knows your sales, they know the threshold.

There is absolutely no reason you should need to apply for anything.

They change their agreement terms ALL the time. This is nothing special.

I guarantee you if you if they change something that makes more money in THEIR favor, they aren't going to make you apply for it before it kicks in.
You do know that developers do need to agree to any new agreements before they can submit apps/updates to apps?
 
I know this won't impact Fortnite, but does this having anything to do with their actions? And doesn't this highlight how arbitrary the fees are?

I suspect that’s why Apple is positioning this as extra financial relief meant to tide developers through this pandemic period. It also gives Apple the flexibility of ending the special rate at any time.

If anything, it goes to show that Apple really doesn’t have that much wriggle room on their 30% cut, if they want the App Store to stay profitable. From what I am seeing, the bulk of the App Store profits come from a small number of extremely profitable companies. Meanwhile, the majority of developers who would benefit from this don’t really contribute much to the App Store’s bottom line, which is probably why Apple is willing to make this move, but it doesn’t really impact them that much financially.
 
Beat me to it! I appreciate this, but it's silly that devs need to apply for this. I also don't understand the restrictions around app transfers.
So developers wont open another account and transfer their Apps to it. I believe this is $1M per Dev Account, not 1M per app.

Although in the future I think most developers will now open a separate account for their App just incase. Which is an additional $99 / year for Apple.
 
So developers wont open another account and transfer their Apps to it. I believe this is $1M per Dev Account, not 1M per app.

Although in the future I think most developers will now open a separate account for their App just incase. Which is an additional $99 / year for Apple.
Developers have to disclose their ties with other accounts, as seen in the screenshot in post #39. I have two accounts so Apple will now be watching them both. They are trying to prevent people from spreading their apps across multiple accounts, thinking they can skirt around the rules of $1 million per dev org.
 
So you're saying the terms and conditions of the program have not changed? And therefore does not require your express acceptance of them? Seriously? Apple would be foolish going forward without the acceptance of the new terms and conditions from those in the program.

The good news is, if there are developers who do not wish to be bound by the new terms and conditions they can refuse to accept and not be a developer. Easy.
Yes the agreement has changed, but ALL developers must agree to it, even those who are not eligible for the program.
 
It actually protects developers to have to opt-in. Otherwise, Apple can automatically opt them into all kinds of things.
Apple “automatically opts in” developers to all kinds of things all the time.

For example, apps were made available on Mac Silicon by default, and developers have to opt out.
 
Are you a developer? Have you actually gone through the application process? Because it asks 4 simple questions and clearly spells out the rules for the discount. It took me around 1minute to apply. It was that easy.
All true, which makes this nothing more than a ministerial requirement, which if missed can cost a developer hundreds of thousands of dollars.
 
The fact that you have to enroll in this when clearly they could instantly run a report and decide who pays what rate is ridiculous.
That would violate a developers previous legal contract with Apple where the developer agreed on a 30% fee. Snooping into a developers app business dealings with other account owners without their consent might also violate privacy laws.
 
All true, which makes this nothing more than a ministerial requirement, which if missed can cost a developer hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Some developers will not be eligible. Apple asks four simple questions to determine if developers/entities some potentially with majority ownership of multiple accounts, with revenue aggregates potentially exceeding qualification revenue thresholds, meet eligibility requirements, the answers to which cannot be otherwise ascertained. Thus Apple asks developers to attest that they qualify for the lower 15% fee.

If a developer feels burdened answering the four questions to determine if the above is true, something that takes less than a minute to answer in order to qualify for the lower fee, well that is their choice.
 
All true, which makes this nothing more than a ministerial requirement, which if missed can cost a developer hundreds of thousands of dollars.
No different from lots of other business requirements. Forgot to renew key vendor contract? Lost business. Forget to file corporate tax forms or city safety inspection papers on time? Boom, potential big fines.
 
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You have to apply to earn more, if you fall under a threshold.
Apple knows your sales, they know the threshold.

There is absolutely no reason you should need to apply for anything.

No.

If I was Facebook and I bought a 51% controlling interest in XYZ company a while ago that released 1 app that made $100k, that XYZ company is not eligible for 15%. There is NOTHING in Apple's databases to tell them that Facebook owns 51% of XYZ.

🤦‍♂️
 
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Are you a developer? Have you actually gone through the application process? Because it asks 4 simple questions and clearly spells out the rules for the discount. It took me around 1minute to apply. It was that easy.
Not currently, but have been for several years, yes. It's not the fact of how fast you can do it, it's that you have to do it at all.
 
Not currently, but have been for several years, yes. It's not the fact of how fast you can do it, it's that you have to do it at all.
You have to do it at all because Apple's needs to know the answer to those 4 questions (likely to make it more difficult for some developers to cheat in the most obvious way). How else is Apple going to tell if you actually own 4 different shell corporations?
 
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