Biased and wrong. He either completely doesn't understand how green energy works or intentionally attempts to deceive the reader.None of that means he is incorrect. Biased? Sure, but wrong?
Biased and wrong. He either completely doesn't understand how green energy works or intentionally attempts to deceive the reader.None of that means he is incorrect. Biased? Sure, but wrong?
I see.Biased and wrong. He either completely doesn't understand how green energy works or intentionally attempts to deceive the reader.
We don't know anything about it, but the promise makes people wet themselves.how do we know its true?
Not satisfied until every Apple product runs on renewable energy. iPhones with solar cells. Macs with little windmills. Apple Watches that use the motion of your arm to charge themselves.
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how do we know its true?
So are you saying it would be better if Apple just said F it, let's just use fossil fuels to power all of our buildings???
I came here looking for the same answer. Office buildings and data centers all make sense and seem easy enough. No idea how they did this in all of the malls across the world where they have stores and especially so in historical spots like the Grand Central terminal store.
Since electricity is fungible, they can achieve the same result by producing enough "green" power to run all the mall stores etc and just feed that power into the general grid. While direct wiring would be more intellectually satisfying, there is no objective difference.
YOU SURE CAUGHT THEM!Aka accounting tricks. I knew it.
OMG, can you not see how you are being hoodwinked into thinking that they are green? Lol
Can someone tell me how Apple’s retail stores achieve such? Some of them are located in malls which I don’t think Apple clan control where the power comes from. Do they simply produce more energy than they are using and then use that as a means to claim that they are 100% renewable?
Great step Apple. But I thought the company was already running on the methane collected from Phil the shill's marketing BS.
It’s a lot of marketing PR garbage. Someone posted a Forbes article earlier showing how Apple does the smoke and mirrors with respect to renewables.
While much of that is well and good. Biofuels are not clean energy.
Biofuel
- Requires converting massive amounts of wilderness into farmland. Displacing wild species. Since you need to keep producing the fuel. This displacement is permanent.
- Requires massive amounts of fresh water. We already are using far more than can be replaced naturally. The aquifers are already being drained way too quickly. Eventually they will be tapped out. Growing bio-fuels will just exacerbate the process.
- More farmland means use of more fertilizers and pesticides. Which eventually runoff into lakes, rivers and oceans.
- Takes nearly a half gallon of fuel to produce one gallon.
- Still produces greenhouse gases when burned.
interesting... I thought clean energy was just a novelty, they do as a publicity stunt where in the far future it might happen for real. Didn't think its doable now.
That demonstrates Apple doesn’t understand the basic energy conversion problem: it’s not a matter of generation, but distribution.This has probably already been answered several times by now, but Apple uses X amount of energy for all its stores and manufacturing buildings, and everything. Then they create the same amount of renewable energy, and pump it back into the grid. So while they aren't necessarily using the exact energy they create, someone else is.
You mean Shill Philler?
I would love to see them running thermal and hydro. If I am not mistaken, those are the cleanest you can get.
It's basically a necessary evil. Better than coal, but not clean. I guess it's the best they could get, we're talking big facilities of course.
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Never seen houses with solar panels? This is basically that on a large scale. And the large scale makes it incredibly hard, but enough money and commitment can get you there.
We don't know anything about it, but the promise makes people wet themselves.
Apple is on the power grid in cities with Apple stores, and those use coal-fired electric or nuke electric.
I'd like a truly in-depth report by a third party or impartial investigation group. You'd probably find that either the data is skewed or the accounting is ridiculous.