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M1 replaced the entry level machines for Air, Pro and mini, which I assume were already the best sellers over the more expensive options in the categories so this doesn't surprise me too much.

And I guess those interested in the higher-end if they can are waiting to see what Apple will deliver.
 
Thinking about finally upgrading from my Late 2013 MBP.
Ya I'm definitely replacing my 2012 non-retina mbp this year. Hopefully with a 14" macbook pro if the price is right. If not, then I'll jump on the next air refresh.
 
Here we are Larry. The M1 is a tenth of the speed of the best AMD processor. Your needs may vary of course.



Are you seriously going to compare the M1 with its 8 cores and 20 something watt power consumption to a 64 core threadripper that costs $5k and draws over 10X the power?
 
No, if you do anything at all, you'll be sourcing your claim. You're the only one asserting unsubstantiated proclamations.

What you're attempting with the faux-magnanimous "I'll do your research" is like like claiming the moon landing was fake and then challenging a doubter to prove you right.

Either you know of more powerful chips or you don't. This is the internet and people claim things all the time. They don't usually ask other people to prove their claims for them.
Post 76 has 'evidence' that hopefully will be sufficient to you.
 
Here we are Larry. The M1 is a tenth of the speed of the best AMD processor. Your needs may vary of course.


The M1 is their lowest end chip, I would expect it would be outperformed by their highest end chip as well as their other chips that are consuming more power.

I use the M1 every single day for my work and personal stuff, it hasn't struggled with a single thing I have thrown at it. I fully expect the high end offerings to easily compete at this point. The lack of heat generation from this chip (I have the Air, so no fan) is just something that AMD isn't able to compete with at this time. I hope it drives them all to make better products, that's what competition is for.

Edit: You really need to check the single core performance on the M1, it's besting the thread ripper you posted by a decent margin.

I fully expect these chips to be hard to handle (for AMD and Intel) when scaled.
 
Couldn't care less either way. My criticism was of your actions, not your claim. You made a claim, didn't source it, and suggested someone else to do it for you. Typically, the person making the claim provides the proof of their assertions.
I did my best. Apologies if I have let you down.
 
The M1 is their lowest end chip, I would expect it would be outperformed by their highest end chip as well as their other chips that are consuming more power.

I use the M1 every single day for my work and personal stuff, it hasn't struggled with a single thing I have thrown at it. I fully expect the high end offerings to easily compete at this point. The lack of heat generation from this chip (I have the Air, so no fan) is just something that AMD isn't able to compete with at this time. I hope it drives them all to make better products, that's what competition is for.

Edit: You really need to check the single core performance on the M1, it's besting the thread ripper you posted by a decent margin.

I fully expect these chips to be hard to handle (for AMD and Intel) when scaled.
I'd love Apple to make the fastest machine possible. What's stopping them?
 
Super surprising that Apple is selling more M1 Macs than Intel Macs...

One of the things that I wish Apple would spend more time talking about with their M1 Macs, both mobile and desktop, is energy use compared to the competition. I have a feeling that a lot of people think, or rather don’t bother thinking about, the energy needed to power their devices. Even those on this forum touting how AMD has more powerful chips than the M1, but says nothing about the power per watt used - because all these chips from AMD and Intel that are faster than Apple’s current chips take so much energy to run that they can’t perform without being plugged in.

Until the planet is deriving the majority of its electrical / power needs from solar, wind and hydro, it is absolutely critical that we start reducing our energy use, including with basic things like computers.
 
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Are you seriously going to compare the M1 with its 8 cores and 20 something watt power consumption to a 64 core threadripper that costs $5k and draws over 10X the power?
8 times as many cores and yet 10 times faster… well done America I say. Impressive either way.
 
Exactly. Entry level models tend to sell more than more expensive models to begin with. Thus anyone looking for the cheapest MacBook will default to the M1 MacBook Air. This might not be due to the M1 itself. If Apple kept a cheaper Intel model around, that one might be selling more.
Nope. Apple market share growing faster than ever year over year. So it's due to M1 chips or higher demand of home users for CoVid restrictions.
 
I think once we get more apps for M1 (and thus more developers on board), you're going to start seeing the "heavy-duty" Apple silicon chips arrive on the scene. I think WWDC this year will be important for that.

M1, as great as it is, is really best suited for consumer products.
Agreed. But I was hoping for at least an M1X chip in the new iMac. Nonetheless, the M1 is just fine for consumer-level products. It'll really sing in the new iPad Pros (especially with the extra ram) and I don't hear anyone complaining about its performance in the MacBook Air and smaller MacBook Pro. In fact, I'm tempted to pick up an M1 MacBook Air myself. I just wish we could get more ram in the iMacs and the MacBook Pro. 32gb at least and maybe 64. Even if its not truly necessary for performance reasons, it would take a lot of strain off others parts of the machine - like the SSD.
 
I'd love Apple to make the fastest machine possible. What's stopping them?
Nobody is, if you're looking at single core performance .. they have outperformed many of the CPUs you listed.

Apple has a pipeline and will release higher end products on their schedule.

Edit: Attached a screenshot from your first link posted. These are the only CPUs in that list with faster single core performance, I would say Apple is doing very well with their low end and the high end should easily impress.
 

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The default 8GB RAM is just a planned obsolescence tactic by Apple. The M1 has such great performance that consumers might stick with it for a long time, so Apple put 8GB RAM as default to increase wear and tear on the SSD. Since users cannot upgrade the RAM nor SSD themselves, people will end up having to just replace the whole computer sooner.
I think its due to the user target of entry level computers: my wife and sons are more than happy with 8GB or RAM in former Apple and Windows laptops. More than enough for office work and internet surfing and all that kind of stuff. If you're a pro and want a Mac, please buy a Pro Mac, because pro users DO NEED more than 8/16GB or RAM.
 
Wasn’t the M1 announced in November? We’re not even 6 months, or 1/4 of the way, through the transition.

I fully expect a larger replacement for the 27” iMac, with a more powerful processor, to be released this fall.
Ok, five months and ten days since announcement of the M1, not six months, not much of a difference.

Tim Cook announced the transition to Apple silicon would take two years on WWDC, on the other hand, but maybe he meant two years since the release of the first apple silicon, not since wwdc.
 
Here we are Larry. The M1 is a tenth of the speed of the best AMD processor. Your needs may vary of course.



Seriously, show me how you can put that processor in a laptop and get a real 8 hours of usage out of the battery. Then you can talk again...
 
Bake that airtag tech into portable M1 macs so that they can be located even when powered off and moved (ie stolen), and I’ll buy!
Yep, your will always come up with a reason not to buy an Apple product. Do you even own any?
 
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