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Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

averagenerd81 said:
Nobody is, if you're looking at single core performance .. they have outperformed many of the CPUs you listed.

Apple has a pipeline and will release higher end products on their schedule.

Edit: Attached a screenshot from your first link posted. These are the only CPUs in that list with faster single core performance, I would say Apple is doing very well with their low end and the high end should easily impress.
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I'd be delighted if Apple shovelled a load of M1 chips into a single computer.
 
averagenerd81 said:
Nobody is, if you're looking at single core performance .. they have outperformed many of the CPUs you listed.

Apple has a pipeline and will release higher end products on their schedule.

Edit: Attached a screenshot from your first link posted. These are the only CPUs in that list with faster single core performance, I would say Apple is doing very well with their low end and the high end should easily impress.
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Actually, "pro" machines are not about single-core performance and M1 has 4 cores only (another 4 are energy efficient only, not useful for desktop machines). Beside that it's necessary to solve M1's limits like 2 monitors only, 2 TB ports only, 16 GB RAM max, no external graphics, etc. So let's see what cards they have in their sleeves.
 
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RammyXX said:
I want to replace my 2012 Mac mini but I'm hesitant to buy the new M1 model. I'm still not sold on the M1 chip. Then there's the problem of excessive SSD wear as reported by MacRumors, or has that been addressed? I think I will get the latest i7 Mac mini while they are still available... plus they come in space-gray! :)
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There isn’t a problem with wear on SSDs there’s zero evidence of that it’s just something for people on forums to complain about.
 
qoop said:
Well, some are just twice as fast as the M1. They're not all 10 times as fast.
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I don't understand your point, you don't know which kind of M1 performance Apple will be able to deliver for the high-end market, so you cannot know the relative performance to other high-end CPUs yet.

The current M1 models are not aimed at the high-end market so it makes little sense to compare them against CPUs in a different category. When compared to other CPUs in the similar segment and with similar TDP constraints they are very competitive.

The question is whether Apple will be able to scale the performance to meet the demands in the higher-end segment. Given the success they had with the M1 in the lower-end already it's definitely worth waiting to see what they will be able to deliver.
 
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Damn that iMac on the title photo looks like placeholder icon. This is the ugliest thing ever designed. Nothing will beat that, not even Fiat Multipla.
 
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bsolar said:
I don't understand your point, you don't know which kind of M1 performance Apple will be able to deliver for the high-end market, so you cannot know the relative performance to other high-end CPUs yet.

The current M1 models are not aimed at the high-end market so it makes little sense to compare them against CPUs in a different category. When compared to other CPUs in the similar segment and with similar TDP constraints they are very competitive.

The question is whether Apple will be able to scale the performance to meet the demands in the higher-end segment. Given the success they had with the M1 in the lower-end already it's definitely worth waiting to see what they will be able to deliver.
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The Ampere Altra looks interesting: https://amperecomputing.com/altra/
 
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getting a little tired of hearing about entry level stuff. but, I guess that's where the profit is.
 
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Jeo_cz said:
Actually, "pro" machines are not about single-core performance and M1 has 4 cores only (another 4 are energy efficient only, not useful for desktop machines). Beside that it's necessary to solve M1's limits like 2 monitors only, 2 TB ports only, 16 GB RAM max, no external graphics, etc. So let's see what cards they have in their sleeves.
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yeah, show me 64gb ram, 4 tb ssd, 4 TB ports, oh wait.. that was the Intel imacs... :confused:
 
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ian87w said:
The default 8GB RAM is just a planned obsolescence tactic by Apple. The M1 has such great performance that consumers might stick with it for a long time, so Apple put 8GB RAM as default to increase wear and tear on the SSD. Since users cannot upgrade the RAM nor SSD themselves, people will end up having to just replace the whole computer sooner.
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Absolutely. All of these devices designs limit repairability and reduce the life cycle. It's really a subjective opinion by the user though what is considered "it lasted long enough."
 
qoop said:
Why so prickly? The M1 laptop is a decent little computer for light internet use and general office work.
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Maybe because your doing the equivalent of comparing a Corvette to a Formula One car and then complaining that the Corvette is a piece of crap and too slow. Never mind that it is impossible to use the Formula One car anywhere but a race track.

If you're going to compare processors, do it to something that can be found in a similar style machine at a similar price. When doing so I think you'll find the M1 to be pretty darn competitive.
 
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thawk9455 said:
Maybe because your doing the equivalent of comparing a Corvette to a Formula One car and then complaining that the Corvette is a piece of crap and too slow. Never mind that it is impossible to use the Formula One car anywhere but a race track.

If you're going to compare processors, do it to something that can be found in a similar style machine at a similar price. When doing so I think you'll find the M1 to be pretty darn competitive.
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There's a man in Monaco with a road legal 917k. Alta Petens is what I say.

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Jeo_cz said:
Actually, "pro" machines are not about single-core performance and M1 has 4 cores only (another 4 are energy efficient only, not useful for desktop machines). Beside that it's necessary to solve M1's limits like 2 monitors only, 2 TB ports only, 16 GB RAM max, no external graphics, etc. So let's see what cards they have in their sleeves.
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Totally understand, the M1 is not a "Pro" style device so I am not comparing it as such due to that. Just pointing out that single core performance is very good on these and adding more cores, better GPU and more should result in a rather powerful machine.

I am super happy with my MacBook Air M1, so I can't wait to see what comes down the road.
 
qoop said:
Here we are Larry. The M1 is a tenth of the speed of the best AMD processor. Your needs may vary of course.


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Love how these are cherry-picked benchmarks from a whole host of measurements that seem to directly refute the assertion that the 3995 is 10x the speed of the M1.

The M1 shreds the 3995 in Geekbench 5 single-core, and more than holds its own in Cinebench R23 single-core. True, it loses out in the multi-core scores, but we're talking about a CPU that has 8 times the total number of cores and 16 times the number of performance cores...because, remember that only 4 of the M1's cores are high-performance. This is from Apple's initial entry-level CPU, one that's available in computers that cost 1/10 of what the Threadripper costs by itself.
 
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Love how these are cherry-picked benchmarks from a whole host of measurements that seem to directly refute the assertion that the 3995 is 10x the speed of the M1.

The M1 shreds the 3995 in Geekbench 5 single-core, and more than holds its own in Cinebench R23 single-core. True, it loses out in the multi-core scores, but we're talking about a CPU that has 8 times the total number of cores and 16 times the number of performance cores...because, remember that only 4 of the M1's cores are high-performance. This is from Apple's initial entry-level CPU, one that's available in computers that cost 1/10 of what the Threadripper costs by itself.
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Glad you enjoyed it. Best wishes.
 
"Pro" isn't about specs. Give a pro an etch-a-sketch and they'll blow you away. "Pro" is about doing the best job with the tools you have.

That's why spec jockeys can be ignored, to an extent. A real pro just needs their brain. Wannabe pros focus on tools. Tools are important, but what's between your ears is more important.
 
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kstotlani said:
This is the first thing I noticed. I wouldn’t buy a white iPhone (pre X) because the white bezels would be too distracting. I am guessing Apple has really good usability experts but somehow I didn’t think white thick borders was a good idea.
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Turns out that a fix for the white bezel is already available on Amazon 😁 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PV19TSM/
 
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