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Apple Now Selling Refurbished M1 Pro and M1 Max MacBook Pro Models

JPack said:
Apple doesn't claim they don't use plutonium in the MacBook chassis, so maybe it uses it? Apple doesn't say they didn't put a satellite radio in iPhone 13, so maybe it has one? Who the heck uses that logic?

On refurb iPhone, iPad, and iPod pages, Apple clearly lists "new battery and outer shell" as a selling point. None of the Mac products do.
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Apple doesn't say, for a fact, what or how they repair MacBooks, so why would you be so sure that they don't replace the case or battery to the point of defending it?

Your childish analogies aren't worth consideration.
 
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planteater said:
The economics don’t work for buying a refurb. New I paid $2,699, or $56.25 per month over the 4 years I expect to use the machine. Let’s say I got a refurbished (used) machine for $2,449, or $51.00 per month over its life. I saved 5 bucks per month or 16 cents per day. No thanks, there is more value in the new machine for me. I’ve never bought refurb and never will.

Edit, but in reality I’ll likely have it for 5 years or more.
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Nobody is going to ask you if it was originally a refurb when you resell it privately though. Of the machines I've sold, they held their value just like any other mac.
 
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Karma*Police said:
Refurbs are always discounted but in this case it’s only 10% which is what the discussion was about. Why would anyone in their right mind get a refurbed MBP from Apple over a new one for the same price from an online Apple dealer?
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Comes down to timing of the sales, awareness, whether you want to add Apple Care, and whether you want to do business with the specific retailer running the sale.
 
$50 more for new with edu discount makes these a terrible deal. Also since you can more or less pickup up the popular models today vs waiting once these initial refurbs disappear.
 
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I ordered my 16" M1 Max on February 9, and the earliest it's expected is this week. Really looking forward to it, but man… this has beed a long wait!

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jterp7 said:
$50 more for new with edu discount makes these a terrible deal. Also since you can more or less pickup up the popular models today vs waiting once these initial refurbs disappear.
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The EDU discount is not available to everyone. If you can find a discount on a new unit, that is great. Sometimes those are less than the refurb discount, sometimes not.

for the new MBP where supplies have been limited and it can be hard to get them, if you can find what you want as a refurb, it may be better for you than ordering new even if the refurb discount is not as high on these models so far.
 
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dmylrea said:
Apple Refurbished is indistinguishable from new, apart from the box that looks almost identical says "Refurbished" in tiny print on the front.

Inside, I would bet you $100 you couldn't tell the difference.
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I disagree. Easiest place to tell is the screen which does have the odd if pretty much insignificant blemish.
Now how you you like to pay the $100?
 
Allen_Wentz said:
Apple puts refurbs through more extensive hands-on-by-a-human testing than a new MBP sees. They are excellent choices. My expectation is that the hardware failure rate on refurbs is lower than on untouched new MBPs.
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Any idea what the process actually is?
 
H2SO4 said:
I disagree. Easiest place to tell is the screen which does have the odd if pretty much insignificant blemish.
Now how you you like to pay the $100?
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This makes no sense. Are you suggesting all refurbs have screen blemishes and new machines don’t? I’ve had several new MacBook pros that had to be returned for white spots and other screen problems. I’ve had refurbs that didn’t.
 
I bought a refurb imac once and had to return it within a week due to a construction flaw, which is likely the reason the first owner returned it. I haven't bought a refurb since. It's just not worth it for such a small discount. I'd rather buy new on sale and save more money.
 
14" base model for 1619.00
16" base model for 2024.00
Only thing is you have to pay for AppleCare+at checkout for 3 yrs or add it after the purchase.
 
I've been waiting 6 months for my M1 Max to arrive in the UK, just cancelled the order and got it from the refurb store and its coming tomorrow!
 
planteater said:
The economics don’t work for buying a refurb. New I paid $2,699, or $56.25 per month over the 4 years I expect to use the machine. Let’s say I got a refurbished (used) machine for $2,449, or $51.00 per month over its life. I saved 5 bucks per month or 16 cents per day. No thanks, there is more value in the new machine for me. I’ve never bought refurb and never will.

Edit, but in reality I’ll likely have it for 5 years or more.
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The way I look at it, that's $250 dollars I have to save or spend on something else, for a product that, to me, is identical to a new one. Over the years, I've purchased two iBooks, two Mac minis, a MacBook Air, and a 27" iMac from the Refurbished Store for my wife and myself. All were unblemished and worked perfectly. The Air and the iMac are our daily drivers. The others were either sold or given away when they became too slow for our needs. That was well over $1,000 saved. The problem with the "That's only $x dollar per month or y cents per day" argument is that all those incremental costs for all the different products and services we use add up, prime examples being the fragmentation of the streaming-video market and the software-as-a-service industry. As someone else mentioned, the resale value of a refurbished Mac is the same as for one you bought new. If you feel more comfortable buying brand new, that's fine, of course. If I had a choice between a new and a refurbished Mac at the same price, I'd buy the new one, but not for any objective practical reasons. I say all this for anyone who wants to save money but who has concerns about buying refurbished.
 
Ubele said:
The way I look at it, that's $250 dollars I have to save or spend on something else, for a product that, to me, is identical to a new one. Over the years, I've purchased two iBooks, two Mac minis, a MacBook Air, and a 27" iMac from the Refurbished Store for my wife and myself. All were unblemished and worked perfectly. The Air and the iMac are our daily drivers. The others were either sold or given away when they became too slow for our needs. That was well over $1,000 saved. The problem with the "That's only $x dollar per month or y cents per day" argument is that all those incremental costs for all the different products and services we use add up, prime examples being the fragmentation of the streaming-video market and the software-as-a-service industry. As someone else mentioned, the resale value of a refurbished Mac is the same as for one you bought new. If you feel more comfortable buying brand new, that's fine, of course. If I had a choice between a new and a refurbished Mac at the same price, I'd buy the new one, but not for any objective practical reasons. I say all this for anyone who wants to save money but who has concerns about buying refurbished.
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I see what you are saying regarding the savings, I adhere to a similar philosophy regarding extended warranties. I never purchase them for any products. The money I’ve saved over the years is more than enough to pay for repairs or replacement of any device that fails, including my new MBP.

I track the cost over time of all electronic devices, appliances, house, etc., and know my the cost of ownership well.

I still prefer my Apple devices new, but can appreciate those that buy them refurbished. From all reports, Apple refurbs are high quality.
 
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