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I took part in AP testing but did not get a invite for aim testing. Fiddlesticks....
 
You can enable or disable sounds, badges, and popups, and it's also per app. So some apps can be set to popup, and other apps can be denied popups.

Thank you sir. You also posted something about using this to text people.. Will this be good enough for that to actually work you think? I would love not to pay 20 damn dollars for unlimited texting.. my old carrier offered it for 5 dollars a month. 20 dollars! or 30? something dumb.
 
Ok got the e-mail and all is working fine here.

First thing i did was turn off the pop up, now i just get the noise and the button on the apps icon.

I would have kept the pop up if, after i slide to unlock, the app didnt automatically open.

Only other little bug i have found is if you have multiple messages waiting, when you open the app it makes the new message noise x the amount of new messages you have again (it also makes the phone vibrate each time aswell!)

But aside from that its a great app, just what i have been wanting. Now just need to wait for Beejive to launch their push update and ill be happy :D

Not many people i know use AIM/iChat. Most people in the UK use MSN :confused:

Thanks
Scottio

Seriously??i hate the way, as of now, when you open up aim it vibrates for the amount of messages you missed, i wanna shoot it.
 
For you people complaining about the pop ups.. (<<<that sounded rude ha ha..)

I was under the impression you could turn those pop ups off. Or if you can't, that's the developers fault. Who wants to clarify things for me?

Yes you can, but there are some problems with this:

1. If it's just a sound, there's a very good chance you'll miss the notification. After that, (unless you have the badge notification on) how will you know if you have an update?
2. With a badge, you have to HUNT to find if your app has been updated.

In reality, Notifications on the iPhone are simply atrocious. I really hope Apple fixes this in 4.0.

w00master
 
Thank you sir. You also posted something about using this to text people.. Will this be good enough for that to actually work you think? I would love not to pay 20 damn dollars for unlimited texting.. my old carrier offered it for 5 dollars a month. 20 dollars! or 30? something dumb.

I text messaged my sister on her iPhone. Worked fine. She replied with no problems. They will have to use the AIM number to send you future text messages though, not your regular phone number.

Yes you can, but there are some problems with this:

1. If it's just a sound, there's a very good chance you'll miss the notification. After that, (unless you have the badge notification on) how will you know if you have an update?
2. With a badge, you have to HUNT to find if your app has been updated.

In reality, Notifications on the iPhone are simply atrocious. I really hope Apple fixes this in 4.0.

w00master

Guess you should have badges on then, huh?
 
Yes you can, but there are some problems with this:

1. If it's just a sound, there's a very good chance you'll miss the notification. After that, (unless you have the badge notification on) how will you know if you have an update?
2. With a badge, you have to HUNT to find if your app has been updated.

In reality, Notifications on the iPhone are simply atrocious. I really hope Apple fixes this in 4.0.

w00master

How would you change it? I don't have it in front of me so I can't give any thoughts until june 17th.. but what would you like to see?
 
How would you change it? I don't have it in front of me so I can't give any thoughts until june 17th.. but what would you like to see?

I don't want to start a Pre/Android vs. iPhone war. So, let me do this caveat:

I love my iPhone. I think it's the best smartphone out there. The best UI. Period.

HOWEVER to answer your question, if you want to see Notifications done the right way, look at those platforms.

Here are some key takeaways:
1. Unified notification area.
2. Notification area that can be easily accessed either through a gesture: probably instead of moving left or right on the home screen you move up or down which accesses the unified notification messaging area
3. Pop-ups are fine, as long as it doesn't take over what you were doing. Here's a problem in the current iPhone OS (and 3.0):

- You get a phone call (or make one)
- During your phone conversation, you get an SMS pop-up
- You decide to ignore the text msg & continue to converse.
- You & your friend decide to end the conversation, but when you bring your iphone down to "end the call" guess what... YOU CAN'T
- The d*mn SMS pop-up is still there, you have to click 'close' first before hitting "end call."

4. Pop-up notifications need to disappear after a period of time.


Those are just some ideas.

w00master
 
I text messaged my sister on her iPhone. Worked fine. She replied with no problems. They will have to use the AIM number to send you future text messages though, not your regular phone number.



Guess you should have badges on then, huh?

Still doesn't address the problem, b/c you have the combination of point 1 and 2 occuring. You still end up either missing the sound and/or have to hunt for the badge.

Notifications need to be unified under one specific area. Period.

w00master
 
I don't want to start a Pre/Android vs. iPhone war. So, let me do this caveat:

I love my iPhone. I think it's the best smartphone out there. The best UI. Period.

HOWEVER to answer your question, if you want to see Notifications done the right way, look at those platforms.

Here are some key takeaways:
1. Unified notification area.
2. Notification area that can be easily accessed either through a gesture: probably instead of moving left or right on the home screen you move up or down which accesses the unified notification messaging area
3. Pop-ups are fine, as long as it doesn't take over what you were doing. Here's a problem in the current iPhone OS (and 3.0):

- You get a phone call (or make one)
- During your phone conversation, you get an SMS pop-up
- You decide to ignore the text msg & continue to converse.
- You & your friend decide to end the conversation, but when you bring your iphone down to "end the call" guess what... YOU CAN'T
- The d*mn SMS pop-up is still there, you have to click 'close' first before hitting "end call."

4. Pop-up notifications need to disappear after a period of time.


Those are just some ideas.

w00master


I think I'm getting a decent picture here. I think I would like the idea of the up and down gesture.
 
Those are just some ideas.

w00master

We know Apple loves gestures...so why won't they take an idea from the JB community. Have icons in the menu bar next to battery (and batter % for the 3gs !!!!), that indicate you have a notification. Now...just swipe your finger across the menu bar and it slides open a notification area!! When you first receive a notifcation, have it behave like the "Tethering" and "Tap to return to call" in that area. After a few seconds, have this message disappear into the notification bar for you to access later.

I would say that is pretty elegant.
 
I think I'm getting a decent picture here. I think I would like the idea of the up and down gesture.

It's my last gripe with the iPhone in terms of UI. I can live w/o multitasking (although I think this will happen someday on a future iteration of the iPhone). So, 3.0 pretty much brings everything that I need. :)

w00master
 
We know Apple loves gestures...so why won't they take an idea from the JB community. Have icons in the menu bar next to battery (and batter % for the 3gs !!!!), that indicate you have a notification. Now...just swipe your finger across the menu bar and it slides open a notification area!! When you first receive a notifcation, have it behave like the "Tethering" and "Tap to return to call" in that area. After a few seconds, have this message disappear into the notification bar for you to access later.

I would say that is pretty elegant.

Hey... that idea works for me to. I think the gist is that iPhone needs a unified notification area.

w00master
 
We know Apple loves gestures...so why won't they take an idea from the JB community. Have icons in the menu bar next to battery (and batter % for the 3gs !!!!), that indicate you have a notification. Now...just swipe your finger across the menu bar and it slides open a notification area!! When you first receive a notifcation, have it behave like the "Tethering" and "Tap to return to call" in that area. After a few seconds, have this message disappear into the notification bar for you to access later.

I would say that is pretty elegant.

Great idea! Now that you say that.. I'm surprised that isn't how it is currently set up. That wouldn't even take 4.0 to change I bet... so we could see that in 3.1 or something, don't you think?
 
We know Apple loves gestures...so why won't they take an idea from the JB community. Have icons in the menu bar next to battery (and batter % for the 3gs !!!!), that indicate you have a notification. Now...just swipe your finger across the menu bar and it slides open a notification area!! When you first receive a notifcation, have it behave like the "Tethering" and "Tap to return to call" in that area. After a few seconds, have this message disappear into the notification bar for you to access later.

I would say that is pretty elegant.

I figured they were going to do something along these lines, since apps respect that area if it changes size.. Sounds like the perfect solution. I was thinking maybe swipe over the status bar and slide to one of the sides, left or right (both would work) would bring you to a special screen with all your notifications.

Or maybe the current app/screen would peal back like the Maps app does except from the top and farther down showing the notification sitting under everything. I also thought a setting for each app for them to have a time to live in that area, so they would self erase. For an example you could set the weather apps notification to only live in the notification area for a day since after that it would be worthless anyway, etc.

The current UI just seems messy with notifications pilling up and forcing you to look at them along with how easy they are to accidentally dismiss. Along with the icon badges being spread across multiple screens making it hard to see them in a glance. I really think this will come in a 3.x update since it will only get worse as the number of apps with push notifications goes up.
 
I figured they were going to do something along these lines, since apps respect that area if it changes size.. Sounds like the perfect solution. I was thinking maybe swipe over the status bar and slide to one of the sides, left or right (both would work) would bring you to a special screen with all your notifications.

Or maybe the current app/screen would peal back like the Maps app does except from the top and farther down showing the notification sitting under everything. I also thought a setting for each app for them to have a time to live in that area, so they would self erase. For an example you could set the weather apps notification to only live in the notification area for a day since after that it would be worthless anyway, etc.

The current UI just seems messy with notifications pilling up and forcing you to look at them along with how easy they are to accidentally dismiss. Along with the icon badges being spread across multiple screens making it hard to see them in a glance. I really think this will come in a 3.x update since it will only get worse as the number of apps with push notifications goes up.

In the mean time, would grouping all apps with notifications onto the same pages help?
 
We know Apple loves gestures...so why won't they take an idea from the JB community. Have icons in the menu bar next to battery (and batter % for the 3gs !!!!), that indicate you have a notification. Now...just swipe your finger across the menu bar and it slides open a notification area!! When you first receive a notifcation, have it behave like the "Tethering" and "Tap to return to call" in that area. After a few seconds, have this message disappear into the notification bar for you to access later.

I would say that is pretty elegant.

SBsettings on a jailbroken phone is activated this way. It's ingenious.
 
In the mean time, would grouping all apps with notifications onto the same pages help?

I almost wrote that. :) It could work as a stop gap, until apple improves of it. Since with the way it appears they built it, the apps registering with the OS that they accept notifications for them to create a screen that aggregates all this information wouldn't be that difficult. I would assume they are working on it and are mostly caught up with how to present it.
 
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Will this work on email??? I mean the popups.....
 
I almost wrote that. :) It could work as a stop gap, until apple improves of it. Since with the way it appears they built it, the apps registering with the OS that they accept notifications for them to create a screen that aggregates all this information wouldn't be that difficult. I would assume they are working on it and are mostly caught up with how to present it.

Either way I bet it gets changed somehow in 3.x updates. Or we can only hope. A friend just showed me the 3.0 with notifications and I can now see how this is upsetting people.
 
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