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The problem is there is still a "moving part". Instead of a home button that depresses, you feel movement of the Taptic Engine. That's not software you feel moving in there.


But remember, the error message talks of a problem with the Home button. It doesn't mention the Taptic Engine.
 
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I don't have time for this nonsense, so happy I skipped the buggy iPhone 7Plus.

My reliable iPhone 6S Plus has never looked so good... :D

Amazing that you are always such a big fan of whatever Apple product is NOT currently their focus.

Here's you expressing your preference for the 6 when the 6s was released
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/22064436/
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/21989637/
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/22085741/

Here's you reflecting on how great the 5s was when you got your 6
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/21759063/

Oh, and here's you looking forward to the 7 for this very feature that the 6s didn't have.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/22045099/

You masquerade as a fan of Apple products only to repeatedly take shots at everything Apple produces hoping that your "dedication to the brand" lends you credibility with those who haven't paid attention to your prior posts.
 
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Macrumor world have hardly been shocked by anything on the recent years. Most things rumored have become true to the point that when Apple holds media events, everyone here knows almost exactly what to expect.
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What problem? Problem caused by ware and tare of moving parts? Yes, it does eliminate that. But things are not tied to only one kind of problem. On this occasion the problem could be simply just a bug related one.
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He does have a point. Cases make smartphones subjectively Ugly! Nothing is meant to live forever.
That being said, I do keep it in a case too but only because I do sell them after a year or 2 and get at least a half of what I have paid. Zero scratches/marks + original box means lot more of my money back on eBay.
Yea but it's like having leather car seats and then covering them....the only time you have the leather you paid for was the day the car sells!
 
Apple tends to release buggy products, then sort them out over time. It's understandable that raving fans prefer denial over acceptance of that practice.

Or you are just looking for cover as you consistently denigrate all things Apple. Name five thing you think are best in class or fantastic about the latest Apple products. Apple has a lot of products and each has many features, that shouldn't be difficult for a long time Apple fan such as yourself. But do try to pick obscure products and features because I will remind you of your statements when you accidentally later contradict yourself by badmouthing those same items.
 
Apple tends to release buggy products, then sort them out over time. It's understandable that raving fans prefer denial over acceptance of that practice.

I dunno. I personally find that I quite like these Apple products, bugs and all. Apple somehow manages to get the initial experience just right, which makes me more than happy to overlook whatever flaws and shortcomings it may have.

The argument here was never that Apple products are perfect or beyond reproach, but that they manage to offer a great user experience despite their flaws, or perhaps, even because of it.

You can call it denial or acceptance or whatever you wish. It doesn't change the fact that I am thoroughly enjoying my Apple products, that I will continue to purchase many more Apple products and get good mileage out of them.

So tell me - why do you seem so bent on trying to convince us that we have problems with our Apple devices when in all honesty, we either don't or don't care?
 
But remember, the error message talks of a problem with the Home button. It doesn't mention the Taptic Engine.
Apple seems to have created the Taptic powered home button as a unique feature they could boast about inventing. Being controversial ads to the attention it garners, just the kind of recognition Apple thrives on. It'll be interesting to see where this goes.
 
Amazing that you are always such a big fan of whatever Apple product is NOT currently their focus.

Here's you expressing your preference for the 6 when the 6s was released
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/22064436/
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/21989637/
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/22085741/

Here's you reflecting on how great the 5s was when you got your 6
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/21759063/

Oh, and here's you looking forward to the 7 for this very feature that the 6s didn't have.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/22045099/

You masquerade as a fan of Apple products only to repeatedly take shots at everything Apple produces hoping that your "dedication to the brand" lends you credibility with those who haven't paid attention to your prior posts.

Fantastic find!
It's nice when someone gets held accountable for their actions/words over time.
 
Apple seems to have created the Taptic powered home button as a unique feature they could boast about inventing. Being controversial ads to the attention it garners, just the kind of recognition Apple thrives on. It'll be interesting to see where this goes.

For sure on that. I remember all the negative controversy heaped on the first iPhone not using a keyboard made with physical buttons and instead going with a touch screen.

With respect to seeing where that goes, I wonder if all the haters are still using their Blackberry/Nokia/Samsung/Moto keyboard phones?
 
That it does.

Is it any wonder why I am such a fan of Apple products?
Steve Jobs created a very loyal following. His charismatic nature appealed to millions, he convinced them that Apple independent of its products was magical. That Apple knows what's best for them. As such customers are so emotionally invested they are thrilled to give Apple their money. It's an amazing accomplishment.
 



With the introduction of the iPhone 7, Apple did away with the classic click-mechanism home button in favor of a "solid-state" pressure sensitive one that uses haptic feedback to mimic traditional button presses.

The programming that controls the Taptic Engine-powered feedback is deeply integrated into iOS 10, so much so that it appears Apple's latest iPhone is able to automatically offer a temporary workaround when its diagnostic software senses that the technology is playing up.

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MacRumors forum member 'iwayne' shared the above picture of his iPhone 7 display after the device unexpectedly turned itself off while charging and the haptic feedback began malfunctioning after a restart. A dialog prompt warns that the home button is in need of repair, but presents an alternative onscreen home button for temporary use until the phone has been turned in to Apple for servicing.

MacRumors has previously noted that the Taptic Engine can become unresponsive if the OS freezes, which forced Apple to change the reset process for the iPhone 7 series. Apple has also apparently safeguarded against instances when the button's haptic sensor system breaks completely, but whether or not its failure rate is any better than a physical button remains to be seen.

Rumors suggest Apple will ditch the iconic home button entirely for next year's "iPhone 8" in favor of one built directly into an edge-to-edge display, but it's unclear if Apple intends to implement the same button-based recovery methods for instances in which devices freeze or stop responding completely.

Article Link: Apple Offers a Temporary Workaround if the Home Button Fails on an iPhone 7
Every time press the new button my neighbors garage door opens.
 
Steve Jobs created a very loyal following. His charismatic nature appealed to millions, he convinced them that Apple independent of its products was magical. That Apple knows what's best for them. As such customers are so emotionally invested they are thrilled to give Apple their money. It's an amazing accomplishment.

You also conveniently left out the most important part. That Apple's products work better for me than all the other alternatives out there.

I still remember the day I got my first iMac. It was an amazing piece of hardware compared to years of putting up with crappy windows PCs. My only regret was that I didn't switch sooner.
 
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Well, I guess we can all be grateful and sleep easier in our beds knowing that they haven't started blowing up yet!

Two things, it's barely one month since the device was released and there is a problem, one customer's experience here could represent hundreds around the world. The device knows there's a problem but and it is telling the the user they may be a problem. From a design point of view, it is a confusing user experience.
 
But remember, the error message talks of a problem with the Home button. It doesn't mention the Taptic Engine.

Exactly!
Also... cellular phones have been vibrating since the 1980's; I've literally NEVER once heard a story about the vibration unit (now TapticEngine) being a point of failure. Not once- in billions of phones sold. I think linear actuators are fairly bulletproof.
 
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You also conveniently left out the most important part. That Apple's products work better for me than all the other alternatives out there.

I still remember the day I got my first iMac. It was an amazing piece of hardware compared to years of putting up with crappy windows PCs. My only regret was that I didn't switch sooner.

Apple Computer Inc was a wonderful company.

Perfect? No.
Imperfect? Yes

But the issues weren't caused by blatant greed or hidden indifference to customers. They weren't caused by bold hypocrisy. Products did "just work" and those that didn't got fixed often before they're released. Oh sure, Apple Computer almost went under, but they survived to grow and prosper. For those of us that enjoyed being customers during that period, we know what Apple is capable of as a hungry ambitious right thinking tech company. We enjoyed great products and support.

As Apple Computer Inc. morphed into Apple Inc. many things changed as was to be expected. The advent of iPhone was epic, carrying with it many rather typical pros and cons. Yet behind the curtain a new, ruthless, greedy Apple was born. A new higher level of narcissistic attitude prevailed. One that appealed and pandered to the narcissistic well healed Apple customers. Focused on creating an image of great appeal to entitled elitists, Apple flaunted it's premium pricing. Make no mistake Apple has become a monster success off manipulating the mindset of its followers. Kudos to them.
 
Good that they done this, so users won't need to wait, but i see it as more of a "failure".. Apple's not living up to what they set out to do...

They built in taptic home button, then they for-see a way to get around it when it fails ? as a reason not to get u in the store to get it fixed?

More of a convenience, than anything.
 
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Can't say that iPhone 7 release is stellar either. Plenty of issues here as well. Kinda happy mine hasn't arrived yet.
This is one of the most ridiculous statements I've seen today..... How can you have issues with a phone you don't have yet? How can you say the release isn't stellar if you haven't been part of the release yet? I've had no issues with my phone and neither have the majority of users. You say things aren't stellar because you frequent this site were all people typically do is complain about things. Wait until you get your device before saying things aren't up to par.
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I didn't say i have, did i? In general, overall people are having plenty of issues.
wrong.... overall (very few) people complaining on websites such as MR are having problems.....
 
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This is one of the most ridiculous statements I've seen today..... How can you have issues with a phone you don't have yet? How can you say the release isn't stellar if you haven't been part of the release yet? I've had no issues with my phone and neither have the majority of users. You say things aren't stellar because you frequent this site were all people typically do is complain about things. Wait until you get your device before saying things aren't up to par.
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wrong.... overall (very few) people complaining on websites such as MR are having problems.....
Where do you see me say i have issues? You people really have comprehension problems. I specifically provided further context specifying that mine hasn't arrived yet and by HERE i mean Apple side as compared to samsung side.
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wrong.... overall (very few) people complaining on websites such as MR are having problems.....

Maybe yes, maybe no, but the issues are real and multiple.
 
Not even close to as bad as Antennagate was with the iPhone 4, which was a real issue and not even as big of a deal as the whole Bendgate, which was a non-issue.[/QUOTE]

Isn't apple getting sued over the bend gate as the root cause of touch disease? Not exactly a non issue. We will have to wait and see how this 7 home button works out.
 
These issues cropping up so early in the iPhone 7 product cycle don't bode well for its resale. But every new iPhone can't be a winner. If this ones a dud, the next iPhone will enjoy even higher demand. Either way Apple wins.
 
Just wanted to update everyone on my iPhone; I am the OP from the story.
As of the next morning my iPhone has for now returned to working as normal. I cancelled my Genius Bar appointment as I didn't want to deal with the craziness that is the Apple Store. The iPhone has not malfunctioned since that day; I'll continue to pay close attention to the taptic engine/home "button".
 
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