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Funny, that's how I feel about iPhone cases. You buy this $1000 state of the art pocket computer with beautiful industrial design engineered to fractions of a millimetre. Then you stick it in a $7.29 piece of bulky rubber for the entire time that you own it.

This is EXACTLY why I love/loved the old Nokia way of phone cases, and actually I would not be Anti it being done again with some smart phones.
Front and back clip off covers, plastic, and available in potentially millions of colours, designs and patterns.

Even to the point you can change covers if you are at work, or going out to a party at night.
If the cover gets damaged or you wish to sell the phone, fit a new cover = good as new.

Some old ideas, really were great from a Real World Use standpoint.
 

Now you are just letting facts get in the way of a good story. :)

Apple though has done themselves no favours to committing to annual major updates of OS , so every year you get a rinse and repeat of buggy software. Also what is not helped is how they push updates on people. Many don't care if it's a software or hardware bug, and Apple here is not helping .

You are correct things under jobs were also relative , and many mistakes, though this concept of a "free" software upgrade is not realistic in terms of software development .
 
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Something tells me you are one of these grieving about Note 7!

I am. Mind you, not because I wanted one. Apple needs the competition to take them down a peg or two, and back into the ID labs to create something fascinating again. Or convincingly try to, at least.

In less than a month of release, we got an iOS update to fix a lightning-to-3.5" bug, a workaround for the Home non-button, not to mention a generally baffling iOS 10. The main differentiators of the current gen iPhone and iOS (aside from camera and waterproofing) -a button, a removed jack, and a "bold new design" (a.k.a. bloated UI and obfuscated input patterns) in the body of a repainted iPhone 6S- not only are small, but do not seem to be incorporated that smoothly either. Even for Apple's known iterative habits, it's uncharacteristically poor and self aggrandising design by committee.

I scratch my head how months ago certain Apple defenders would decry the suggestion of a redesigned form factor as "change for the sake of change", but these little nothings (that define the term) struck them as revolutionary. Really?

And I can't help but wonder, what has Apple, with all their vast resources and talent, been up to for the past 2 years? A long sabbatical? Buying off Chinese ride share companies?
 
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Just one more point of possible failure that will end up frustrating customers. The car manufactures began using touch controls for volume, temperature, etc a few years back until, unsurprisingly, they started returning to physical buttons shortly thereafter. Software is much more prone to bugs than hardware failure. Physical buttons are best in many instances!

Totally agree!
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-use-assistivetouch-on-iphone-2015-5

It's a cultural thing. It's wrong but it's ingrained in their culture. I've seen it with my own eyes. Kids using the accessibility on screen home button on phones with perfectly working home buttons.

Not just culture in that sense. Eastern countries are not as clean either. Dust and dirt is part of their lifestyle. They can't get rid of that. In such situations any mechanical thing fails more often.
 
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I am. Mind you, not because I wanted one. Apple needs the competition to take them down a peg or two, and back into the ID labs to create something fascinating again. Or convincingly try to, at least.

In less than a month of release, we got an iOS update to fix a lightning-to-3.5" bug, a workaround for the Home non-button, not to mention a generally baffling iOS 10. The main differentiators of the current gen iPhone and iOS (aside from camera and waterproofing) -a button, a removed jack, and a "bold new design" (a.k.a. bloated UI and obfuscated input patterns) in the body of a repainted iPhone 6S- not only are small, but do not seem to be incorporated that smoothly either. Even for Apple's known iterative habits, it's uncharacteristically poor and self aggrandising design by committee.

I scratch my head how months ago certain Apple defenders would decry the suggestion of a redesigned form factor as "change for the sake of change", but these little nothings that define the term struck them as revolutionary. Really?

And I can't help but wonder, what has Apple, with all their vast resources and talent, been up to for the past 2 years? A long sabbatical? Buying off Chinese ride share companies?
Personally I still prefer Apple products ( maybe because I'm to vested in their ecosystem) but it seems the last couple of years or more they have settled for mediocrity and putting out products for profit sake ahead of putting out a product that is stable and productive. Not sure at this point what much more we can expect out of a phone so it would be nice to see them concentrate on the lap tops and iPads as well as accessories for their devices.
 
Funny, that's how I feel about iPhone cases. You buy this $1000 state of the art pocket computer with beautiful industrial design engineered to fractions of a millimetre. Then you stick it in a $7.29 piece of bulky rubber for the entire time that you own it.

Funny, I don't want my $1000 state of the art pocket computer with beautiful industrial design engineered to fractions of a millimetre destroyed by dropping it once because it's far more fragile than a new born baby.
 
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Why even have a "Home" button? It seems like archaic technology to me, much more of a dinosaur than headphone jacks. Come on Apple, show some real courage.
 
My iPhone 7 has had issues at times the home button doesn't work and sometimes where the screen touch doesn't register. As a software engineer, it definitely seems like an OS freeze that has caused it to not work. In both instances, I just hard reset the phone and after the reboot everything is fine--very frustrating. Has anyone else had this happen?
 

But the real point here is:
This is NOT an article about a problem or recall!!!! Which made his comment even more ridiculous. The story is that- we have our very first report of a home button failure on a single unit out of the millions sold over the last 5+ weeks. Wow! Impressive! Great job Apple...
So, assuming the user didn't do anything to cause the failure; we have what? Like a one in five million chance of hardware failure on a new technology? Unless we hear tomorrow that dozens & dozens of other people have seen this warning message as well, due to home button failure- a LOT of people here completely missed the point of the story.
It was to let curious people know that they wouldn't be "screwed" if their home button failed for some reason. Apple put in some clever code that would realize the failure & allow you automatic continued access to your iPhone.
 
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But the real point here is:
This is NOT an article about a problem or recall!!!! Which made his comment even more ridiculous. The story is that- we have our very first report of a home button failure on a single unit out of the millions sold over the last 5+ weeks. Wow! Impressive! Great job Apple...
So, assuming the user didn't do anything to cause the failure; we have what? Like a one in five million chance of hardware failure on a new technology? Unless we hear tomorrow that dozens & dozens of other people have seen this warning message as well, due to home button failure- a LOT of people here completely missed the point of the story.
It was to let curious people know that they wouldn't be "screwed" if their home button failed for some reason. Apple put in some clever code that would realize the failure & allow you automatic continued access to your iPhone.

It is. One issue reported out of roughly 28,000,000 iPhone 7 units delivered. Mice nuts...

Those complaining about this are trying super hard to compensate for their hurt feelings due to their brand taking a worldwide monumental beating on the Note 7 disaster. Whatever works, I guess.
 
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I am. Mind you, not because I wanted one. Apple needs the competition to take them down a peg or two, and back into the ID labs to create something fascinating again. Or convincingly try to, at least.

While I agree with the part of your comment quoted below, I don't agree with the rest. You are making such a huge deal about one of the million devices that are sold, which may have some home button issues. Well, get this! When we are talking about tens or hundred of million devices, it should't come as a surprise that few may develop a fault or have hardware issues. Rather then waiting to see if this is a wide spread issue and not isolated issue, you are jumping your guns and calling it failure, which is not and you know it is not but you keep insisting it is. Suit yourself, believe whatever you want.
 



With the introduction of the iPhone 7, Apple did away with the classic click-mechanism home button in favor of a "solid-state" pressure sensitive one that uses haptic feedback to mimic traditional button presses.

The programming that controls the Taptic Engine-powered feedback is deeply integrated into iOS 10, so much so that it appears Apple's latest iPhone is able to automatically offer a temporary workaround when its diagnostic software senses that the technology is playing up.

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MacRumors forum member 'iwayne' shared the above picture of his iPhone 7 display after the device unexpectedly turned itself off while charging and the haptic feedback began malfunctioning after a restart. A dialog prompt warns that the home button is in need of repair, but presents an alternative onscreen home button for temporary use until the phone has been turned in to Apple for servicing.

MacRumors has previously noted that the Taptic Engine can become unresponsive if the OS freezes, which forced Apple to change the reset process for the iPhone 7 series. Apple has also apparently safeguarded against instances when the button's haptic sensor system breaks completely, but whether or not its failure rate is any better than a physical button remains to be seen.

Rumors suggest Apple will ditch the iconic home button entirely for next year's "iPhone 8" in favor of one built directly into an edge-to-edge display, but it's unclear if Apple intends to implement the same button-based recovery methods for instances in which devices freeze or stop responding completely.

Article Link: Apple Offers a Temporary Workaround if the Home Button Fails on an iPhone 7
[doublepost=1476636305][/doublepost]Are you people this stupid? Or do you just play one on TV?
This article does not say there is a "problem" with the new i7 it says "IF" the button ever goes bad here is the work around built into the new iOS.
Unreal no wonder we see so many mouth breathers walking around.
 
The physical button of the iPhone has constantly been a point of failure, to the point that in Far Eastern countries often it isn't used at all to preserve the resale value (they use Accessibility features instead).



In the car, touch controls are bad for a completely different reason: because you can't find them without looking.

This is an amazing and educated response I couldn't have put better.

In Jordan, I believe the third or fourth year the iPhone was out, I specifically had my translator ask why people are using accessibility instead of just pushing the dumb button....Not like you won't have a new iPhone in a few years right? Well I was somewhat young and naive to whole supply chain thing and how stuff doesn't reach every corner of the earth right away and noticed they were actually using this feature on what I remember to look like the iPhone 3G (could be wrong, it was a long time ago and I had more dangerous things on my mind than smartphone curiosities). Anyway, the rough translation given back to me was that the fine grit sand that all us Marines (and other military folk) just absolutely love to cover ourselves in for fun actually works its way into the mechanics of the home button rendering it useless much faster than in the luxurious country's environment we live in.

And about the car thing, I remember about a decade (ok almost 2 decades now) ago thinking I was the coolest kid in the parking lot because my aftermarket CD player had an EQ and touchscreen buttons. Well, may not be directly related to that head unit (do they still call them that?) but that truck didn't make it very long through my teenage years haha.
 
Love this post, as I've been telling everyone banging in about the Note 7, Apple has had more then it's fair share of faulty products... The majority under Steve Jobs as you say.
None if which exploded or have been banned from airplanes. And I'm wondering if you keep track of everything that goes wrong with Samsung phones in the same way as with iPhones.
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In addition to your comment, if the home button were to fail, at Least this alternative home button function would work until your in a position to have it replaced or repaired at your convenience. Nicely executed on Apple's behalf.
Really it's like the spare tyre in the back of your car. So a customer writes "my car tyre blew, but there was a spare in the boot of the car, I put it on and I drove home just fine". And then people scream "that car manufacturer can't make tyres that don't break".
 
Funny, that's how I feel about iPhone cases. You buy this $1000 state of the art pocket computer with beautiful industrial design engineered to fractions of a millimetre. Then you stick it in a $7.29 piece of bulky rubber for the entire time that you own it.
That's because there's the fairly big risk of looking at a €150-€200 screen repair drop your phone or at the very least a damaged casing.
 
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