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I don't think they're holding stuff from "me" but rather theres technology that's out there that isn't being put out to public yet. How do I know... There's a home button on the screen now. It's not a "halt of buying" thing for me but rather just a view of how I see it. If you don't agree, no issues.
I think we do agree, there is new tech coming it's just not ready yet. Everyone wants new tech now and rips Apple for not innovating, but personally I'd rather them get it right before it's released. The halt of buying for me is the limited stock, everyday I get 1 day closer to just waiting until next year.
 
I think we do agree, there is new tech coming it's just not ready yet. Everyone wants new tech now and rips Apple for not innovating, but personally I'd rather them get it right before it's released. The halt of buying for me is the limited stock, everyday I get 1 day closer to just waiting until next year.

I do agree that no company should rush to failure. Look at the Note 7. So yes there is tech out there but maybe it is to soon to break it out. On the contrast, how are we able to use it right now? Hmm, I think Apple has something up their sleeve.
 
I do agree that no company should rush to failure. Look at the Note 7. So yes there is tech out there but maybe it is to soon to break it out. On the contrast, how are we able to use it right now? Hmm, I think Apple has something up their sleeve.
I don't exactly know what you are calling new tech here. If you are still talking about that onscreen software button thats not new tech. When it's always under the screen and still reads your fingerprint, that's new tech. Apple for sure has big things coming.
 
i thought the whole point of replacing the physical home button was to prevent failures like this? what the hell, there is no moving parts on the home button so where is the point of failure???
 
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So we're writing off the iPhone 7 because of ONE report?

Wow guys. I don't think the iPhone 7 taptic button is any less prone to failure than a physical button, so who cares?

I'm sure millions of iPhones will be fine, but at least there's a safeguard that you can use so that the phone is at least still usable!
 
Just one more point of possible failure that will end up frustrating customers. The car manufactures began using touch controls for volume, temperature, etc a few years back until, unsurprisingly, they started returning to physical buttons shortly thereafter. Software is much more prone to bugs than hardware failure. Physical buttons are best in many instances!

not really - nowadays, physical buttons often just control software - especially so in cars or with car stereos - so, a physical button is just an additional point of failure - also, a touchscreen is sort of a physical button, because you have to touch it physically - unlike voice control. car manufactures probably went back to realmbuttons, because of the haptics - it's bad design, if you have to look away from the road. plus, as it's so often the case wih cars, they were designed poorly (e.g. didn't respond because the system needed time to boot up, didn't respond as directly as we're used from apple-products, had bad UI,...)
 
I don't exactly know what you are calling new tech here. If you are still talking about that onscreen software button thats not new tech. When it's always under the screen and still reads your fingerprint, that's new tech. Apple for sure has big things coming.

Well... hmm, I consider new tech as a feature not yet presented to the industry and/or product. This screen home button is a feature just now presented. The entire workings seemingly to be totally different though the end result/outcome is the same.
 
Anyone else think it's unlikely Apple will abandon the home button any time soon after investing in the tech to upgrade it for iPhone 7?

Also, what is the likelihood that they'd change the dimensions to a non 16:9 format?
 
i thought the whole point of replacing the physical home button was to prevent failures like this? what the hell, there is no moving parts on the home button so where is the point of failure???

The taptic engine? Is that any more reliable than the click button? I must say I've had every single iPhone made and never once had a button issue but maybe thats just because I changed them often.
 
You really did; you said: "plenty of issues here as well".
If you understand it like that then you understand it wrong and since i specifically stated that i'm still waiting for mine you don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to undersstand that i'm pointing to general public with 7th iPhone.
 
I firmly believed that the new Home button had no 'moving parts' and would therefore be less prone to failure.

I hope we get to hear back some details on the fix for this.

This could very well be the first and only 7/7+ home button to fail. Certainly isn't as widespread as any other reported issue, so a few affected devices at most, I would imagine.

Can't say that iPhone 7 release is stellar either. Plenty of issues here as well. Kinda happy mine hasn't arrived yet.

This is MacRumors, a site that regularly pops up on Google searches when people search for issues with their Apple products. That's a good thing, because it makes MacRumors somewhat of a hub for people to share their issues. On the other hand, that drastically inflates the number of people that come here with defective or malfunctioning devices. As a result, every single iPhone launch appears to be a catastrophic failure. In reality, the vast majority of people have perfectly functional devices. The ones that don't either come here or to the official Apple discussion forums.
 
Well... hmm, I consider new tech as a feature not yet presented to the industry and/or product. This screen home button is a feature just now presented. The entire workings seemingly to be totally different though the end result/outcome is the same.
I don't think you understand, it's not a feature it's a fail safe if the actual home button fails. Here's one example of why this is not a feature: You won't be able to just hit the home button when the device is in standby to light up the screen you will need to hit the power button and then enter a passcode.

Edit: from google, how to enable onscreen home button in iOS 9
This is how you do it:
  1. Open Settings.
  2. Go to General > Accessibility.
  3. Scroll down to the section labeled INTERACTION and tap on AssistiveTouch.
  4. On the next screen, toggle AssistiveTouch to the green On position.
  5. A white circle with a grey box will appear on screen. Tap this circle to expand it to a big box on screen.
 
When my girlfriend'a iPhone 5 home button stopped working, I had to text her prefs:// and guide her to the accessibility settings from there. This is much better.
 
Just one more point of possible failure that will end up frustrating customers. The car manufactures began using touch controls for volume, temperature, etc a few years back until, unsurprisingly, they started returning to physical buttons shortly thereafter. Software is much more prone to bugs than hardware failure. Physical buttons are best in many instances!

I had the same experience when purchasing a refrigerator last month. I wanted one without a computer to break. I wanted a mechanical thermostat. I wanted passive external radiation (no electric fan to break). Took me forever to find one.
 
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New home button isn't any more reliable than the old home button but it's getting more expensive and harder or impossible for DIY replacement. What was once a $7 fully replaceable part on iPhone 5 became $30 on iPhone 5s to 6s with Apple disabling touch ID. How much is the taptic engine home button for iPhone 7 going to cost if you can even buy one? If you can only go through Apple what is the out of warranty cost?
 
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I don't think you understand, it's not a feature it's a fail safe if the actual home button fails. Here's one example of why this is not a feature: You won't be able to just hit the home button when the device is in standby to light up the screen you will need to hit the power button and then enter a passcode.

Edit: from google, how to enable onscreen home button in iOS 9
This is how you do it:
  1. Open Settings.
  2. Go to General > Accessibility.
  3. Scroll down to the section labeled INTERACTION and tap on AssistiveTouch.
  4. On the next screen, toggle AssistiveTouch to the green On position.
  5. A white circle with a grey box will appear on screen. Tap this circle to expand it to a big box on screen.

Never knew this...interesting. So now I'm thinking whats the point of the home button at all?
 
New home button isn't any more reliable than the old home button but it's getting more expensive and harder or impossible for DIY replacement. What was once a $7 fully replaceable part on iPhone 5 became $30 on iPhone 5s to 6s with Apple disabling touch ID. How much is the taptic engine home button for iPhone 7 going to cost if you can even buy one? If you can only go through Apple what is the out of warranty cost?

I have used the new home button and it's definitely more durable then the old one.I actually love how it feels.Apple destroyed most Android handsets on this count .
 
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The physical button can obviously not fail. Unless it fails, of course. Ask any Samsung fan, and they will tell you that the home button on an iPhone 6 will inevitably fail. Just as inevitable as you will be able to warm your hands on a burning Note 7.
*groan* I did not say a physical button cannot fail, only that it is less likely.
Software is prone to bugs, but it doesn't break. Hardware breaks and stays broken until repaired.
My turn: tell it to the people who's phones were bricked after a software upgrade. ;)
 
Maybe the person who worked on the Home button is the same person that barfed out the atrocious iOS 10 Music app...
 
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