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Apple Offers Developers a Closer Look at the New Mac Pro

AZREOSpecialist said:
I had to delete the rest of your nonsense message because it really did make you look like a child. If this radical re-thinking of the desktop PC depresses you and offers you nothing you can use or want, clearly you need to move on and get a Dell, HP or whatever else you actually do find interesting.

I also suspect that you are not a very forward thinking person.
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Forward thinking.. like back to the daisy-chain disasters that we had in the 90's? Because that is where this is taking us..
 
While I think it's quite trippy looking, and the motion control lights are fantastic (man I could use those with my Macbook sometimes) I'm not sure I understand this.

It's kind of awkward. Is it supposed to be something people gawk at? It's for designers and sound engineers etc right? People crammed into cubicles or in big rooms with all sorts of crap plugged it and spagetti'd all over the place. Is it supposed to be portable? Like you can bring it home or to the office when you need mega power? Can you even upgrade it or does Apple expect you to have a line of Thunderbolt externals?

Same goes with the new Airport stuff. Way to make it so they need their own dedicated (and rather high) space. Just such odd choices.
 
esquared said:
Funny how all of a sudden everyone is concerned about cables. If you're a pro user and you don't have a bunch of cables dotting the horizon of your desk, you might not be a pro. There are NEVER enough ports or slots for a pro user, deal with it, Pro's do.
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That's my comment too. I have an all-in-one monster cased PC and pro-audio and graphics gear and I have insane cabling draped around the workstation area. USB, Firewire, power, USB extensions, power strips, Ethernet, USB hubs, and all the external hardware this stuff connects (scanner, Wacom, pro-audio interfaces, control surfaces, hard drives, etc). No avoiding it. In fact, I gave up on internal optical drives almost a decade ago, so I could avoid paying for them in new machine builds (reusing what I already have).
 
Shut up and take the money I don't have.

In Brazil, it'll cost around US$ 7000,00. But maybe I can bring it as hand luggage in a travel to USA. I would spend the same 7000,00 but at least I could have some tourism.
 
ChristianJapan said:
It's for sure a designer piece ... It will looks nice on my desk and I would have fun watching it; as a non-Pro. 🙂

But as soon you need to start enhancing it you have mainly/only TB. That means lots of cable around the desk. I think that will negative influence the design/appearance. 😕

Ah, and no optical disk as it looks like (not a big surprise) just another cable
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Except that out of the box, this Mac Pro will satisfy the needs of 95% of the pro user base without needing to expand anything. The remaining 5% is not worth losing any sleep over.
 
tevion5 said:
Industry standards have to change.

IDE became SATA.

Standard drives became SSD.

Floppy became CD/DVD's.

VGA became DVI became HDMI.

CRT became LCD.

Wifi B and G became N and now AC.

Serial cables and PS/1/2 ports became USB. Apple wants everything to be thunderbolt because it creates unity. It can carry any type of data. Imagine if audio video and data were all just one type of connection, nothing else. That would be amazing.

Things need to change for the better, and it's always Apple that gets attacked for leading such change.

Dropping optical drives for example. Discs are stupid like floppy disks. I'm sure the first computer not to have Floppy drives got a negative in it's review because of it.

Better technology will catch on, like always. Just wait. We can't use old tech just because it is widely supported and nothing else. This has expandable RAM and storage. PCIe is faster than SATA so that is good.

Embrace the future. My opinion. 🙂
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Bricked GPUs - you're right - how forward thinking! 🙄
 
ArtMooney said:
I won't know because I'll never buy one. Final Cut X forced me to Avid, which runs great on a PC (as do Photoshop and After Effects) - so if I'm gonna pour a ton of money into a professional workstation, the new Mac Pro is literally the last thing I would ever buy. If I were running a post facility and need rack mounting or shared storage via fibrechannel, I can't use this. Which reminds me, where's my RedRocket go? How do I encode BluRays and burn them for testing and protype deliverables? I'm also guessing it's going to be forced 60Hz like the rest of their crap so 3D is out - which it'd be out anyway because I can't get an Nvidia card in it to work with their glasses.

You fanboy, YouTube, FCPX kids are probably gonna love it. David Fincher and Walter Murch however, like me, are probably going to be forced to use something else.

This is an unmitigated disaster professionally speaking. My mom's gonna love it though.
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Wow, you compare yourself to David Fincher, really. PLease let us know what you have made, love to see your work.
 
dysamoria said:
That's my comment too. I have an all-in-one monster cased PC and pro-audio and graphics gear and I have insane cabling draped around the workstation area. USB, Firewire, power, USB extensions, power strips, Ethernet, USB hubs, and all the external hardware this stuff connects (scanner, Wacom, pro-audio interfaces, control surfaces, hard drives, etc). No avoiding it. In fact, I gave up on internal optical drives almost a decade ago, so I could avoid paying for them in new machine builds (reusing what I already have).
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And now you are adding at least 3 more, for the PCI chassis for video cards, another for another storage array, another for optical drive.. and power for all those.

And none of this stuff will stack on top of the MacPro like it does now.. gonna need a rack for it all.
 
a.gomez said:
yep - time to take better care of my old one... and if you don't have one, get one before they vanish- just like the 17ich macbooks last year.
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I guess you don't need any of the new Mac Pro's performance improvements. Cling to your boat anchor while the rest of us have the ability to power multiple 4k displays with limitless expansion options. And your comment about the 17" MacBooks shows that you're being ridiculous and acting hysterically.

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wildmac said:
You must be too young to remember SCSI drives then, right?
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You are comparing SCSI to Thunderbolt? Seriously, why are you here?
 
Not one of the people here who have posted negative stuff about this has seen it, or played with it or anything else. But you don't like it anyway. What a load! You'd complain if you won a million dollars! This is a true Apple product. Innovative, ground breaking and forward thinking in every sense of the word. Is it for you? Don't know and care even less. In fact I think it's really funny how some are getting their knickers in such twist over it. Hahahaha!
Don't like it...get a PC!
You all bitched about floppies, then SCSI, then whatever else Apple threw away...but you are still alive and getting your work done. I'll bet faster than ever. So give it a break. Stop bitching till you have something real to bitch about.
As for the "it's gonna cost too much" brigade....you know this because you're obviously clairvoyant right!
I am definitely not a fanboy at all....but this thing looks so cool and new. How could you not be even a bit excited?
Call yourselves Pro's? Indeed...Pro complainers 🙄
 
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wildmac said:
Sure, you can put $4000 of ram in your system, if you can afford it.. 🙄
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$4k of RAM isn't a lot for a professional workstation (if that's what this truly is). A company I worked with last year spent $60 million on a new workflow and related software and hardware for one of its key operations.

Most government clients I work with have single servers specced at $20k+.

$4k, heck, $10k for a new system is not a lot of money in many professional computing and hardware contexts.
 
design my azz

there is only one cooling plate that connects all the components and only one fan that cools down everything. If it fails everything burns. I wonder how they get along with this.
 
AZREOSpecialist said:
Seems like you're stuck in the past.
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AZREOSpecialist said:
If that's what you think, you've missed the whole point.
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AZREOSpecialist said:
You're clearly joking, right?
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AZREOSpecialist said:
I guess you don't need any of the new Mac Pro's performance improvements. Cling to your boat anchor while the rest of us have the ability to power multiple 4k displays with limitless expansion options. And your comment about the 17" MacBooks shows that you're being ridiculous and acting hysterically.

You are comparing SCSI to Thunderbolt? Seriously, why are you here?
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AZREOSpecialist said:
I had to delete the rest of your nonsense message because it really did make you look like a child. If this radical re-thinking of the desktop PC depresses you and offers you nothing you can use or want, clearly you need to move on and get a Dell, HP or whatever else you actually do find interesting.

I also suspect that you are not a very forward thinking person.
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Oh, the irony. Adults discuss things respectfully, productively, it's how we learn and progress. Personally insulting others serves no purpose other than making you appear foolish. So please, for those of us discussing an important update for hardware we make a living from, don't insult us with inflammatory and pointless diatribe and move on.
 
ArtMooney said:
I won't know because I'll never buy one. Final Cut X forced me to Avid, which runs great on a PC (as do Photoshop and After Effects) - so if I'm gonna pour a ton of money into a professional workstation, the new Mac Pro is literally the last thing I would ever buy. If I were running a post facility and need rack mounting or shared storage via fibrechannel, I can't use this. Which reminds me, where's my RedRocket go? How do I encode BluRays and burn them for testing and protype deliverables? I'm also guessing it's going to be forced 60Hz like the rest of their crap so 3D is out - which it'd be out anyway because I can't get an Nvidia card in it to work with their glasses.

You fanboy, YouTube, FCPX kids are probably gonna love it. David Fincher and Walter Murch however, like me, are probably going to be forced to use something else.

This is an unmitigated disaster professionally speaking. My mom's gonna love it though.
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Ok well good news for Apple is that youre a vanishingly small market of consumer. I doubt they will feel the loss, lmao. For real users who might use this for real work (not simulating gamma ray bursts like you apparently are), this will be a damn capable piece of hardware.
 
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