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This is something Steve Jobs will say.

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Apple's idea was to use one large coil to be able to do power delivery to as much devices you could fit on it.

So far, nobody has been able to do this.

Other multi-device charging stations use independent coils for each device that require specific placement.

I'll give em credit for trying to be innovative. unfortunately they picked something that we currently don't have the means to accomplish
I would think the way to do it would be to make a 2D array comprised of a lot of small coils and then, somehow detecting the location of the device to be charged, only energize those coils. Having one large coil would just result in a lot of wasted magnetic flux that didn't overlap with the device's coil.
 
A charging mat is functionally identical to a wired connection. The only difference is a slight convenience boost in not having to plug it in. Imagine your laptop was advertised with "wireless internet" but only if you kept it on top of the router.
It’s not a matter of imagining anything. I was asking what your cutoff is.

How far away must your phone be able to charge to be considered “real” wireless?
 
I would think the way to do it would be to make a 2D array comprised of a lot of small coils and then, somehow detecting the location of the device to be charged, only energize those coils. Having one large coil would just result in a lot of wasted magnetic flux that didn't overlap with the device's coil.

the depth of the tech is honestly beyond my understanding of electricity. So your guess in how they'd achieve it is probably better than mine.
 
You don’t understand what Apple was trying to do with AirPower. Nobody has been able to do it. Apple thought they had it. They didn’t.

It was a “charge anywhere” mat. Place three devices anywhere on the mat, not just in very specific spots. Not 3 isolated coils, 22 overlapping coils.

No one has done it, and now we know Apple has given up trying.

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If this image is from Apple it should have been posted in main article.
This would have eliminated a lot of the rant posting.
"Trillion dollar company can't even make wireless charging mat" and other such nif-nod comments.
 
Fair point. It just seems such a shambles and, I would have thought producing something that Belkin can produce (but better) wouldn't be too much of a stretch for Apple. I think it was a mistake to announce it without knowing when it would be ready.
Which Belkin wireless charging pad does what the image in post 909 shows?
 
What about the people who ordered AirPods with wireless charging under the assumption that AirPower was following. Seems like a cluster...

Yeah, let's bust out the violin for people who rushed to pre-order a product using an accessory that wasn't even released yet. You know what they say about people who assume things....
 
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I do wonder who was the final say on announcing this at the keynote? Was marketing pressuring engineering or did the hardware engineering teams promise something they couldn’t deliver? Dan Riccio made the announcement but we don’t know if he’s just the fall guy or if his team really did screw up.
Ultimately it's CEO who decides.
 
You don’t understand what Apple was trying to do with AirPower. Nobody has been able to do it. Apple thought they had it. They didn’t.

It was a “charge anywhere” mat. Place three devices anywhere on the mat, not just in very specific spots. Not 3 isolated coils, 22 overlapping coils.

No one has done it, and now we know Apple has given up trying.

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Well it is not 22 coils, Choetech makes a 5 coil that is probably 1/5 the cost of what the Airpower would have been and helps to solve the issue of having to precisely place the unit on the pad.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07MCZK6R9...olid=3R5VJUKBWH100&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

https://www.redmondpie.com/choetech...at-the-same-time-wirelessly-just-36.99-today/

For myself, the Apple Watch charging on a mat is totally useless because I use a Milanese loop which would not allow the watch to lay perfectly flat on a mat.
 
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It took this long to figure that out? Its like they had an idea for a product, made a big announcement about it, and THEN started working on it. Really bad scheduling.
 
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Sure. Technology does not advance overnight. I just say pad-based wireless charging is not true wireless charging. That is all. Maybe one day in the future we will get there, having a battery emitting electrical power to charge many devices within a range.
That's provably false though. Near-field charging (pad based wireless) is just as wireless as mid-field and far-field. They vary by the distance of effective charging. You may be mistaking near-field for contact charging. They aren't the same. Our old buddies Energous, with a helping had from Dialog Semi, are going to bring mid-field to market soon with some strategic OEM partnerships. Even then, the charge levels will be little more than trickle charge. But near-field is true wireless by any and every definition. If it wasn't you couldn't charge through cases.

On topic: AirPower. Awwwww. Apple's Icarus.
 
Yeah, let's bust out the violin for people who rushed to pre-order a product using an accessory that wasn't even released yet. You know what they say about people who assume things....

Uhhh ... so printing AirPower compatibility on the AirPods 2 packaging *and* including an AirPower diagram on the wireless charging case packaging is tantamount to an unreasonable assumption AirPower release was imminent? A LOT of people only ordered the wireless charging version after the packaging made the news circuits.
 
Obviously. But I haven’t seen one that’s elegant enough to charge all three of my devices. Buying individual chargers looks bad and looks like a cluster****.

Since I intended it to sit on my nightstand, I want it to match aesthetically with the rest of my home. Other Qi chargers don’t charge with an Apple Watch, unless you have one that has an Apple Watch charger built in, but I’ve yet to find a product that looks modern or minimalistic.

You realize how dumb that sounds? Lol.
 
10 years from now all your tech will charge from anywhere, all the time. No cables, silly pads, or other nonsense. Airpower will be as obsolete as a floppy drive.

I shudder to think of the health implications of such a scenario.
 
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