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My theory is, it comes when it comes, and there is nothing you can do about it.

But I do wish it would come sooner ;)
 
Slight ethnic bashing aside, this is my point.
I placed my order on launch day here in the US, and it's not expected to ship until April 1st. If Apple can't fill the back orders it has -- or keep up with demand in the ONE market they sell it in now -- how does launching in TWENTY FIVE more markets make sense?

Percentages are allocated for each territory.
That is how it works. If supply outstrips demand - some will have to wait.

You don't hose down all your other obligations just because one market is oversubscribed - that is poor business.
 
- Why would apple care if they sell to a US or a European customer, money is money, in fact they probably make even more money on th EU iPads than on the American ones

They make a ******** more. 499$ would be 350€, so they make a nice warm and cuddly extra 129€, on G3 even more. And thats not all tax, tax issent 30+%.


Still, kudos for the 20€ pricedrop, will use that money to go leather on the smartcover.


And don´t think in countrys, think in people. Europa issent 25 times america populationwise, more like 3 1/2 times.
 
Such is the problem with the western mentality. Sad really.

Why is that such a bad thing? I want something and I have the means to get it. Should I be happy that strangers get it instead of me? Of course we need to be aware that we can't have everything that we want, and that the world doesn't revolve around me because there are other people.

It's just human nature to be sad that we can't have it. Of course we need to be mature in how we react to these feelings.
 
I ordered mine at 4:39 AM on Friday March 11. My Ipad just got to Anchorage and is suppose to be in Charlotte NC on Wednesday. The way this is going people in other countries might get theirs before I get mine
 
So is it possible there are plenty of stock, just being hoarded for overseas?

It's not hoarding, it's called allocation. Apple can't just stamp out tons of iPads and ship them wherever they want. Every country may have different requirements on what packaging must disclose, a government agency that has to approve a device (the USA is no different), and units that will ship with manuals and IOS in a default language. So Apple has to allocate X number of units per model per country. The US got priority.

People always cry, why is this phone only out in Europe? Or why is this game system not out in the USA yet? Supply is only 1 of many factors.

Apple can't sell you a model made for another country if they wanted too.

Now for those who ordered on Apple.com, I'd be furious they're not filling orders that have been paid for before shipping to US Apple stores. That's a bunch of crap.
 
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This is one of three threads I have ever voted negative on. If you can't supply the initial country, how are you going to supply all of these? I am not one to believe the 'hoarding' concept that everyone else has complained of but this even has me suspicious. I know we are not the only country to get it but if you can't take care of the one that your company chooses to release it to first, how do you take care of all the others?

The only positive of this might be a few less scalpers since the device will now be available in some of the overseas places where they are being resold now. Hopefully this will help those who have been to Apple stores over and over again only to be let down because of the same few people buying over and over again to resell.

Shame on Apple for pulling this crap. I don't care if the packaging is different for the other countries. That's all smoke. The fact of the matter is that those of us that stood in a damn line only to be put on a waiting list because Apple couldn't (wouldn't??) stock the shelves properly on launch should be first in line to get theirs. I returned my original ipad the day of the launch cause I was told there would be plenty of ipad2's available. Guess what? I was the first joker in line to NOT get one. This is total *************. I'm going to cancel my reservation and get a Xoom instead. I think perhaps going Android might be a more reasonable approach to mobile computing. Steve Jobs can go take a flying leap.
 
It's not hoarding, it's called allocation. Apple can't just stamp out tons of iPads and ship them wherever they want. Every country may have different requirements on what packaging must disclose, a government agency that has to approve a device (the USA is no different), and units that will ship with manuals and IOS in a default language. So Apple has to allocate X number of units per model per country. The US got priority.

People always cry, why is this phone only out in Europe? Or why is this game system not out in the USA yet? Supply is only 1 of many factors. Apple has come to market with a lot more supply than they did with the first iPad. Again, demand is surprising.

Once Apple can begin to really forecast global needs, it aids in smoother production and allocation making the product get into the supply chain faster. Give it a month or two. No one's life is going to end if they don't have the iPad 2 today.

+1

To add... this is what other company's do as well. Just that no one cares with most other products. :)
 
Percentages are allocated for each territory.
That is how it works. If supply outstrips demand - some will have to wait.

You don't hose down all your other obligations just because one market is oversubscribed - that is poor business.
Correct.

Apple can't knock on everyone's door in Salina, Kansas and make sure everyone who wants an iPad got one before moving on to Bozeman, Montana.

Apple is a global company that derives over 60% of their revenue from international markets. Rolling out the iPad 2 to major international markets also sparks international app developers to improve their software.

If you want a high-demand product with limited availability, you will have to understand that you may end up waiting, whether it's an iPad or the newest roadster from Ferrari. The units are allocated by market territory.

Apple cannot appease everyone on the planet at the same time. The pervasive sense of entitlement by readers on this site and other tech sites is deplorable.
 
Shame on Apple for pulling this crap. I don't care if the packaging is different for the other countries. That's all smoke. The fact of the matter is that those of us that stood in a damn line only to be put on a waiting list because Apple couldn't (wouldn't??) stock the shelves properly on launch should be first in line to get theirs. I returned my original ipad the day of the launch cause I was told there would be plenty of ipad2's available. Guess what? I was the first joker in line to NOT get one. This is total *************. I'm going to cancel my reservation and get a Xoom instead. I think perhaps going Android might be a more reasonable approach to mobile computing. Steve Jobs can go take a flying leap.
Go for it. If you don't want to wait six months for your Ferrari to arrive, buy a Honda.

They're great cars.
 
It is ridiculous to throw your toys out of the pram because Apple is making an international release (which was always scheduled for 25/3) before you got yours.

Honestly its a bit ridiculous that Apple can't make a single international release on a single day, in this day and age. Then nobody would be having this tantrum about it...
 
Americans, please suck it up and for once realise there are other people who matter outside of the good ol US. The only reason the rest of us internationals were delayed for so long in the first ipad release was because of fulfilling the demands of gorged american consumers to the detriment of everyone else in the world.

Grats to Apple on rectifying the problem this time around. Guess you'll have to wait a few extra weeks for an ipad 2. Not to worry.
 
It is ridiculous to throw your toys out of the pram because Apple is making an international release (which was always scheduled for 25/3) before you got yours.

Honestly its a bit ridiculous that Apple can't make a single international release on a single day, in this day and age. Then nobody would be having this tantrum about it...
Sorry, your incredulity is misdirected.

The fact of the matter is that there are too few companies who can provide Apple with high-quality parts in volume to allow for a successful worldwide release on a single day.

While we feel your frustration, Apple cannot conjure up ten million additional touchscreen displays out of thin air. Some of the components are single-sourced from suppliers running at maximum capacity. In a dream world (well, at least to consumers), those manufacturers would have a half dozen competitors making products of equal quality and to Apple's high standards. But we don't live in that dream world, we live in a place where the real-world limitations of consumer electronics manufacturing cannot be randomly waived.

Apple might be able to squeeze out more yield out of the supply chain if they relaxed their standards, but then they'd probably have worse customer satisfaction.
 
Slight ethnic bashing aside, this is my point.

I placed my order on launch day here in the US, and it's not expected to ship until April 1st. If Apple can't fill the back orders it has -- or keep up with demand in the ONE market they sell it in now -- how does launching in TWENTY FIVE more markets make sense?

The only positive I can see out of this is that Apple will be able to stop saying:

"The iPad 2 has been so well received that we're now sold out across AMERICA"

and start saying:

"The iPad 2 has been so well received that we're now sold out across THE WORLD"

It makes sense because last year there was scalping going on for a good 3 months until the ipad was released everywhere.

Also demand is unprecedented, I hope you can agree to that. Apple have a plan for allocation and no matter what the circumstances they are sticking to their plan. Kudos to Apple for that.
 
Shame on Apple for pulling this crap. I don't care if the packaging is different for the other countries. That's all smoke. The fact of the matter is that those of us that stood in a damn line only to be put on a waiting list because Apple couldn't (wouldn't??) stock the shelves properly on launch should be first in line to get theirs. I returned my original ipad the day of the launch cause I was told there would be plenty of ipad2's available. Guess what? I was the first joker in line to NOT get one. This is total *************. I'm going to cancel my reservation and get a Xoom instead. I think perhaps going Android might be a more reasonable approach to mobile computing. Steve Jobs can go take a flying leap.

QUICK!! Someone call the WAAAAHHHHMBULANCE!
 
Sorry, your incredulity is misdirected.

The fact of the matter is that there are too few companies who can provide Apple with high-quality parts in volume to allow for a successful worldwide release on a single day.

While we feel your frustration, Apple cannot conjure up ten million additional touchscreen displays out of thin air. Some of the components are single-sourced from suppliers running at maximum capacity. In a dream world (well, at least to consumers), those manufacturers would have a half dozen competitors making products of equal quality and to Apple's high standards. But we don't live in that dream world, we live in a place where the real-world limitations of consumer electronics manufacturing cannot be randomly waived.

Apple might be able to squeeze out more yield out of the supply chain if they relaxed their standards, but then they'd probably have worse customer satisfaction.

Single international release on 25/3. Announcement on 16/3. The same amount of time to get the product together for international markets and a better US supply, and apparently the same difference between announcing and releasing...
 
Look, if they are releasing to 25 international markets, they need to change the packaging and overpack (basically the documentation and a different plug for the power adapter) as well as the software on the device (defaulting to the native language for the market in question). Certainly, in most cases, the 3G model will have a SIM tied to a specific carrier, even if the device is unlocked. All of this requires them to stop/reduce output of US-destined units. They can't throw a US iPad into a German-language box.

It's not like a manufacturing line can spit out two U.S. units, a UK unit, a Czech unit, a French-Canadian unit, a unit for France, then a couple more U.S. units. Let's say Apple's suppliers has ten lines; maybe two continue to churn out U.S. units, but the others are pumping out units for other markets.

Remember, there are eighteen different SKUs for the U.S. market alone: three sizes (16GB, 32GB, 64GB), in two colors (black or white), and in three network connectivity options (WiFi only, GSM/HSPA for AT&T, CDMA/EV-DO for Verizon). While there are no CDMA iPads for international markets yet (to my knowledge), most of these international markets have multiple GSM carriers which adds complexity (micro-SIMs and branding specific to the mobile operator).

Also Apple is not going to let 3-4 months worth of manufacturing accumulate in inventory before shipping; that's a big liability. The staggered international rollout is really the sanest way to release a hotly-desired consumer electronics product with constrained parts availability when your competitors are nipping at your heels.
 
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A quick question to any Americans who managed to buy the iPad 2 in line: How early did you line up outside of the Apple store? And when you did line up, how many people were already waiting there?

Just trying to fine-tune my strategy for the 25th :p
 
I'm guessing indignant americans who did not manage to obtain an iPad2 and now somehow feel wronged by the "injustice" that is 'sharing with the rest of the world'. :)

Maybe not. I ordered my ipad on the following week when it was 3-4 week delay. Expected receive date of 4/25. Just got updated now that its in prep to ship and the date moved to 4/10. Doesnt look like they are holding back for the international release at least in my case. :)
 
I'm guessing indignant americans who did not manage to obtain an iPad2 and now somehow feel wronged by the "injustice" that is 'sharing with the rest of the world'. :)

A touch harsh with that characterization. I've been indignant that Apple continues selling any in stores here in the States. I ordered mine launch morning; they have my money but won't send my iPad for (still) another two weeks.

EDIT: Just to clarify, my indignation is pretty low-level. More like "dang, that's annoying"
 
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Some of the arrogance and selfishness in this thread is amazing, it's quite easy to see how the world has built this image of America.
I know it is frustrating not getting your iPad when you want it, but see from Apple's perspective, a profit maximising firm.
They couldn't predict the huge demand of the iPad in america, also in Europe there is a lot of tablet competition arriving in April. If apple don't have a tablet on the shelves they will loose to so many potential customers.
Take a step back, and look at the situation from anybody but your own perspective.
 
It may just depend on if there's any manufacturing or product differences unique to each market. We can't assume there's anything being "held back" - they may have been making some for other countries already. The same iPad sold in, say, the UK, may not be able to be sold in the US, obviously.

This is one of three threads I have ever voted negative on. If you can't supply the initial country, how are you going to supply all of these? I am not one to believe the 'hoarding' concept that everyone else has complained of but this even has me suspicious. I know we are not the only country to get it but if you can't take care of the one that your company chooses to release it to first, how do you take care of all the others?

The only positive of this might be a few less scalpers since the device will now be available in some of the overseas places where they are being resold now. Hopefully this will help those who have been to Apple stores over and over again only to be let down because of the same few people buying over and over again to resell.

Not cool as far as I am concerned. We ordered 5 iPad2s on March 7 via our educational institution account (could order ahead of time with it), estimated ship time was 1 to 2 weeks. Yesterday made 2 weeks and we now have an estimate of April 5. So, that would put us at 4 weeks, yet they are still launching internationally?

Am very interested in the HDMI/VGA mirroring option for our teachers to hook up to projectors, but can't test the feature out until they arrive.

Not cool Apple.

lol international stock doesn't affect US stock, it's not like they've taken x amount of boxes of iPads from the US as each country has different chargers. the international stock was already seperated ahead of time. so it has NO bearing on the US peeps. plus you've had your chance, we had to wait 2 weeks to get ours so sod you lot! :p
 
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Did no one else but me notice the poor choice of words in the article?

Japan had been set to see the iPad 2 debut with the first wave of international launches,
 
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