For those who are unaware, the 30" Cinema Display is still available for sale in the Apple online store. If you want one new, I suggest you buy one now.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Officially Discontinues 30-Inch and 24-Inch Cinema Displays
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Few years ago, when massmarket for lcd's were booming, industry realised that cheap low quality lcd's would look better when glossy. Nevermind that qualitywise they were nowhere near "right". Display's would appear to have more brightness, lower blacks and more saturation especially in brightly lit conditions, where available light would wash matte screen's blacks more than glossy's.
Of course you'd get much more reflections, but it would be easy to explain consumer that reflections are not display's fault.
If you compare $300 lcd panel 5 years ago and now, you'll notice that today's panel has 10x contrast & brightness and much wider gamut. So there is no need for cheap display being glossy anymore. Other thing is that there's not even need for those cheap low-quality displays (TN) anymore. Good quality displays are so much cheaper today. But because price is so overrated factor in consumer behavior, most products are manufactured to save the last dollar newermind how bad the quality is. Apple used to be different and in some ways they still are.
And for those who want a monitor with better gamut, more connections, and cutting edge technology and resolution, from a company that will be MAKING monitors instead of fad toys for the foreseeable future, there's the Dell and a handful of others.
Dell is coming out with a new 30" U3011, so maybe Apple will bring it back later.
http://vr-zone.com/articles/dell-ultrasharp-u3011-release-soon-/9523.html
http://vr-zone.com/articles/dell-ultrasharp-u3011-release-soon-/9523.html
I sure hope the 27" will have a longer cable. The pathetic little stump of a cable on the back of the 24" just barely reaches my MBP 17" on its Rain Design stand. How the hell are you supposed to use these with a Mac Pro if you need a dual monitor setup? Put the Mac Pro in the middle and the monitors on each side of it?
Darn, I was going to return the 24" LED I just bought in case they run out as it's discontinued and buy two Dell U2410 to flank the 24" LED I already have. I want to flank my 24" with two displays as I need a three display system, got an ATI Radeon HD 4870 and just ordered the GT 120 to add an additional MDP, so I'll have two MDP and two DVI ports.
However, I can get two Dell U2410's for about $1000, and return the 24" LED for $800.
What do you guys think? Are the Dell displays good? I've read so many mixed reviews I'm worried now, and surprisingly I've read more positive reviews on the 24" LED. Ideally I want a 24" IPS LED LCD, but for ~$500 I'd take a Dell IPS CCFL LCD.
Thoughts?
Man, this sucks.. I've been patiently waiting for the next 30" Apple display with an LED backlight to upgrade my existing monitor. The 30" is the perfect size and resolution for the work I do (I already have one of their discontinued 30" displays and it's great, I just wish it had an LED backlight).
It seems Apple is almost abandoning the professional market.. I really don't want a flimsy plastic Dell 30" .. they look so.. "blah"
Very disappointed..
It seems Apple is almost abandoning the professional market.. I really don't want a flimsy plastic Dell 30" .. they look so.. "blah"
Very disappointed..
I took a quick look through this thread today for one reason; I am kinda excited about the new 27" display. But I have also learned a few things:
1. The 24" ACD is discontinued
2. The 30" ACD is discontinued
3. xbjllb really needs to get laid......really.
1. The 24" ACD is discontinued
2. The 30" ACD is discontinued
3. xbjllb really needs to get laid......really.
My first 30" Apple was DOA, I took it back to the Apple store and a week later they gave me a replacement that was packed in a new box, however when I opened it, it was also clearly used, there were finger prints and smudges all over the screen (it looked like they'd wiped it over with a dirty old rag), some small scratches on the metal and even some tiny dead bugs that had fallen down between the frame and the LCD. I took it back and complained, they said Apple had supplied a refurb as the replacement. I said that wasn't good enough as I bought an expensive brand new monitor and was effectively given a second hand monitor. They said they'd clean it up for me.. gee great, thanks. Not sure how they planned to remove the scratches. Anyway, Apple replaced it with a new one when I made a scene over it.
I wouldn't be convinced by their story as I'm pretty sure they would pack the new monitors in their protective boxes as soon as they leave the factory. I'd try and get them to replace it as passing off refurbs as new is rude (and possibly illegal?). I love most Apple stuff but stuff like this bugs me.
I am LOVING my Dell 30" with my new 2009 Mac Pro. I'd never buy an Apple CD, because Jobs is hell bent on keeping them behind the times and probably phasing them out like the entire desktop computer line. Also, after pro calibration with spyder, I've NEVER seen colors like this on my prior iMac display, even after calibration. And that's a big deal, colleagues were always complaining about my over-saturated graphics I was producing to compensate.
No more. And the size is perfect for me, I can have apps running side-by side and easily access them now. And it was plug-and-play, a cinch to set up, and I've never even fussed with the controls even to experiment.
I like rewarding companies that give me the best bang for my buck with the big bucks, and the 30" is big bucks for a monitor, but still slightly under where the 30" Apple CD was.
I am LOVING my Dell 30" with my new 2009 Mac Pro. I'd never buy an Apple CD, because Jobs is hell bent on keeping them behind the times and probably phasing them out like the entire desktop computer line. Also, after pro calibration with spyder, I've NEVER seen colors like this on my prior iMac display, even after calibration. And that's a big deal, colleagues were always complaining about my over-saturated graphics I was producing to compensate.
No more. And the size is perfect for me, I can have apps running side-by side and easily access them now. And it was plug-and-play, a cinch to set up, and I've never even fussed with the controls even to experiment.
I like rewarding companies that give me the best bang for my buck with the big bucks, and the 30" is big bucks for a monitor, but still slightly under where the 30" Apple CD was.
hmn.. Dell 30" wide gamut calibrated with Spyder.. not a good combination. Did you know spyder calibrator are not really compatible for wide gamut lcd? they also have the most inter instrument variation between each of the spyder.
http://lists.apple.com/archives/colorsync-users/2009/Nov/msg00175.html
Funny that the pros are the ones complaining about the gloss. Pros, you would think, work in rooms where the light could be controlled. I would.
Amateurs have their devices out on the kitchen table, on the couch, in a bedroom, all lit up with windows, lightbulbs, the tv blaring away..., they are the ones who suffer the most from the glare.
Funny that Apple stores are lit up like the interior of the sun and the displays look especially shiny there.
Still, the Apple store is usually the most active store in a mall...
Amateurs have their devices out on the kitchen table, on the couch, in a bedroom, all lit up with windows, lightbulbs, the tv blaring away..., they are the ones who suffer the most from the glare.
Funny that Apple stores are lit up like the interior of the sun and the displays look especially shiny there.
Still, the Apple store is usually the most active store in a mall...
Apple should add in a built in blu ray drive as well as ports like HDMI and a port for a TV antenna/cable TV and keep the price! That would be a fair trade. Although, I don't see how that would happen considering it's just a display, not an actual computer. Maybe they should add that to the iMacs! And if they don't have it already, add wireless functionality for being a secondary or external display. Wireless is the future.
I love it when experts who've never worked in a glass-walled office building a day in their lives weigh in. It's easy to control light in the car you live in, and in the shade side of the unemployment line too.
Besides, who gives a damn about that million-dollar view you're paying for? Steve has spoken, draw the blinds and light the red candles at his shrine and live in a windowless garret the way his minions do.
Thank you Dell for PROFESSIONAL matte screens.
maybe Apple's just holding off on producing many new displays because they have a series of multitouch displays looming in development.
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_0_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/532.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 Mobile/8A400 Safari/6531.22.7)
I would consider myself a "pro-sumer" and my wife a consumer, yet we both very much prefer the Matte screen. also, everytime I take my MBP to the office I get several comments about my screen not getting glare, and not looking like it has fingerprints etc.
I know there's plenty of folks perfectly happy with the glossy, and that's great! I just think there should continue to be the option for matte or glossy on all of Apple's display offerings. that really would be best for everyone sine all of our needs and wants will vary. that doesn't make anyone right or wrong just with differing needs/wants. I personally will look at other display manufacturers due to Apples current offerings. but I certainly don't fault someone if Apple offers a display in size and features (like glossy) that meets their needs/ wants.
I would consider myself a "pro-sumer" and my wife a consumer, yet we both very much prefer the Matte screen. also, everytime I take my MBP to the office I get several comments about my screen not getting glare, and not looking like it has fingerprints etc.
I know there's plenty of folks perfectly happy with the glossy, and that's great! I just think there should continue to be the option for matte or glossy on all of Apple's display offerings. that really would be best for everyone sine all of our needs and wants will vary. that doesn't make anyone right or wrong just with differing needs/wants. I personally will look at other display manufacturers due to Apples current offerings. but I certainly don't fault someone if Apple offers a display in size and features (like glossy) that meets their needs/ wants.
Wait... what?
If Apple discontinued the 30" display... why can you still buy it from them?
http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9179LL/A?fnode=MTY1NDA5OQ&mco=MTA4MzU1OTQ
If Apple discontinued the 30" display... why can you still buy it from them?
http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9179LL/A?fnode=MTY1NDA5OQ&mco=MTA4MzU1OTQ
I can't believe that they are charging 2x the price of the 24" display for the 30" though if they want to get rid of the old stock...
I can believe it if they're still selling them (I mean, people are still buying them at that price). There are probably many people with 30" displays who want a second one, and will pay the price.
Businesses don't slash prices right away during a liquidation - they slowly lower the price until all stock is gone.
A monitor is a fairly stable item - it doesn't need software or other things that being discontinued might affect.
I love it when experts who've never worked in a glass-walled office building a day in their lives weigh in. It's easy to control light in the car you live in, and in the shade side of the unemployment line too.
Besides, who gives a damn about that million-dollar view you're paying for? Steve has spoken, draw the blinds and light the red candles at his shrine and live in a windowless garret the way his minions do.
Thank you Dell for PROFESSIONAL matte screens.
Yikes! I tremble at your thunderous sermon. You are very important indeed. How do you have time to post on places like this when you are busy creating the next Avatar in the middle of a glass-walled room?
Besides, Job's home rotates with the sun, thus he is not aware of glare issues. This along with the truck-mounted 900' AT&T cell tower that follows him everywhere (although there is some argument as to whether he is aware of this or not).
Too bad (an)other monitors are so blatantly ugly and distract you from your work.
P.S. Really saddens me to see how Apple is slowly leaving the pro desktop sector.
I think Apple's monitors look nicer (design wise), but othr moniters that don't have the
logo still don't distract me from doing work.
It's really hard for a company to juggle two divergent product strategies. Apple=highly differentiated product, high margins. Dell=commodity products, low margins, high volumes, great logistics. Dell excels at managing inventory and thus can offer a wider variety of options and still maintain their margin goals. For some things (laptops, integrated desktops, total user experience) the Apple model excels; for others (lots of monitor choices, lots of I/O and CPU options, products at all more slots in the price spectrum) the Dell model wins.