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This 27" display is basically the same move as the 1920x1200 screens going to 1920x1080 widescreen**

Yes, if you see the 27" as replacing the 30". But pricewise it replaces the 24" so you get some more width and a lot more pixels. Similarly, the smaller iMac went from 1680x1050 to 1920x1080. Maybe something will replace the 30" or maybe the market wasn't big enough. Or the panel manufacturer just got tired of it.
 
Nonsense.

The company changed it's name to reflect that it no longer just sells computers. The iTunes music store became the iTunes store, it still sells music, it's just that it now does MORE. Apple now do MORE than they did in the 90s. Would you rather they were a struggling company again with machines costing $7000 + ?

Apple computers are now more affordable, more accepted in business and are in more consumer homes than at any time in history. The OS is still far in advance of windows, including 7. Windows 7 is good because it emulates what has gone before and has the sort of features Mac users have been experiencing since the early days of OSX.

Apple now have a larger market share and higher public profile than at any time in their history - you think this happened because jobs doesn't care about the market share of his company? Get serious.

Market share means didily-shyt when the company is now, due to Mr. Jobs, FINALLY perceived as the new Wham-o Mattel making cheap fad portable crap overpriced toys that DON'T EVEN WORK RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX.

Jobs isn't taking Mac Pros and shrinking them and their usage to the size of iPhones; he's taking iPhones and TRYING to somehow imbue them with the full function of Mac Pros, and since THAT doesn't fool ANYONE, he's just going to STOP MAKING CUTTING EDGE FLAGSHIP COMPUTERS PERIOD.

And you know how long Wham-o lasted as king of the heap?

Really, at this point despite my investment in Apple, I'm all for it. The sooner Apple quits making cutting edge flagship computers the sooner they disappear.

Oh that's right. They've already done that.

Tick... tick.... tick....

Steve-o... I told you when I started this two YEARS ago you don't want to be ignoring the tip of the iceberg.

Well Honey... Titanic! full speed ahead.


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Really, at this point despite my investment in Apple, I'm all for it. The sooner Apple quits making cutting edge flagship computers the sooner they disappear.


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I don't like Apple's decision to concentrate solely on the iOS, passing on the MacPro's and not maintaining the computer line-up as well as they did.

Having said that, you really are talking a load of cobblers.
 
i am sad to see the 30" go, and kinda surprised that the 24" is going also
I guess that even tha last Apple display would go very soon the way of dodo just like Apple's printers, if only they wouldn't need displays to sell computers. There has to be a display in ad photo with MP or mini. There has to be displays in Apple Stores.
You can sell and advertise headless computer without printer, but not without display.

So why the last one is 27"?
I guess if they have to have one last model, with glossy 27" they can make best profits. Most people (=consumers) like glossy. Smaller are too cheap. Bigger is too expensive.
 
Sad shame

A real shame to see the 30" ACD discontinued. :confused:
It's a sweet display with DVI connector.

Not sure what I'll connect to my 2008 Mac Pro when my existing ACD goes out. I really would have loved to keep all the hardware Apple.

Could it be that Apple has a Retina Display for the ACD up it's sleeve?
 
Market share means didily-shyt when the company is now, due to Mr. Jobs, FINALLY perceived as the new Wham-o Mattel making cheap fad portable crap overpriced toys that DON'T EVEN WORK RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX.

Don't work right out of the box? I'd like to know what you mean.

Jobs isn't taking Mac Pros and shrinking them and their usage to the size of iPhones; he's taking iPhones and TRYING to somehow imbue them with the full function of Mac Pros, and since THAT doesn't fool ANYONE, he's just going to STOP MAKING CUTTING EDGE FLAGSHIP COMPUTERS PERIOD.

I don't understand where you got the impression that iOS was supposed to have the same function of a Mac Pro. Apple's argument is that most people don't need that amount of power Mac Pro offers, it is basically an engineering and video production workstation now. Heck, some 3D modeling classes are being taught using iMacs. iPad is like a Star Trek PADD, where the Mac Pro would be the ship's main computer.

Really, at this point despite my investment in Apple, I'm all for it. The sooner Apple quits making cutting edge flagship computers the sooner they disappear.

Wow, someone's seeing what they want to see. Apple's computer growth has shown no signs of abating, they beat their record every quarter, and usually sell at least 30% more machines than the same time last year.

Whatever investment you have, maybe it's best you sell it off to make your point. I hope you mean stock because electronics and software aren't investments, anyone that got that impression is wrong.

Steve-o... I told you when I started this two YEARS ago you don't want to be ignoring the tip of the iceberg.

Since when do you have a line of communication with Steve Jobs?

Two years later, your alleged iceberg still hasn't hit. Ever consider that it's moved on and melted?
 
Since when do you have a line of communication with Steve Jobs?

He thinks Steve and most of the staff at Apple regularly read these forums just to see what he has to say. :D :D :D

Don't try to tell him otherwise. He will insult your intelligence and insist Apple's reading every character on your monitor right now. :eek:
 
steve: put your money where your mouth is

no screens smaller than 27", no matte option.

no wired magic mouse or magic trackpad.

concerning mac peripherals it's steve's way or the highway.

They say they love their customers?? please. What BS.

Apple should start to take the wishes of their mac userbase - those that helped them survive the dark days - serious if steve'd truely mean what he said.
 
Shocking news: :apple: discontinues the 27" already. Behold the matte 40" cinema!
 

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He thinks Steve and most of the staff at Apple regularly read these forums just to see what he has to say. :D :D :D

Don't try to tell him otherwise. He will insult your intelligence and insist Apple's reading every character on your monitor right now. :eek:

I never said or intimated for a moment Apple reads everything here.

Why would they bother with the fanboi accolade nonesense? They have the bottom line bubble to tell them how well they're doing.

That said and done, I am LOVING THIS NEW DELL 30" once I calibrated it with my Spyder. Now it looks BETTER than the mac display.

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I guess that even tha last Apple display would go very soon the way of dodo just like Apple's printers, if only they wouldn't need displays to sell computers. There has to be a display in ad photo with MP or mini. There has to be displays in Apple Stores.
You can sell and advertise headless computer without printer, but not without display.

So why the last one is 27"?
I guess if they have to have one last model, with glossy 27" they can make best profits. Most people (=consumers) like glossy. Smaller are too cheap. Bigger is too expensive.

Seriously, does anyone understand why Apple is pushing glossy and why many "consumers" prefer it? It isn't just Apple doing this either. The new 27" would be a competitive monitor if it had antiglare. Frustrating.
 
Seriously, does anyone understand why Apple is pushing glossy and why many "consumers" prefer it? It isn't just Apple doing this either.

Some consumer prefer glossy because it "pops", or they don't like the grainy appearance of antiglare coatings. I am not one of those. I hate reflections. But I have had discussions with Glossy fanatics:
This guy went so far as too peel the AG coating off his Dell 27". That is all it is; a coating, you can coat your glossy ACD easier than this guy peeled it off his Dell.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/42236618@N07/tags/u2711/

The new 27" would be a competitive monitor if it had antiglare. Frustrating.

Not really. It still has no controls and only one input. IMO pros are going to use EIZOs and NECs pro series monitors anyway.

Heck, I am just a consumer, but I have an NEC 90 series with Spectra View kit. The NEC has three inputs, has 12 Bit internally calibrated LUT, and a myriad of image controls. There is simply no contest between an Apple monitor and a decent pro series monitor.

To me this is much ado about nothing. Apple has never provided highly capable (multi inputs, high features) or pro feature monitors (internal calibration, colorcomp, 12 bit LUTs).

Apples Monitors have always been very good quality simple monitors. Nothing has changed. If you want more you buy another monitor elsewhere.
 
this is so sad.

Apple is so in love with 16:9 and 27-inch,i would say the majority of consumers -at least here-are not.

listen Apple,you need to get this right:

21.5-inch iMac is too small but maybe it's fine for high school and college kids,so i'm fine with it but i rather not buy it,it's a bit too small for me.

27-inch is WAY TOO BIG..WAY TOO BIG...WAY TOO BIG...i swear to god i probably read this 1000 times over here too,27 is RIDICULOUS and UNNECESSARY for the majority of consumers ,GET IT?


24-inch is:

1-the perfect size.
2-16:10.
3-perfect for everyday use,watching movie AND ppl who want to edit or use other heavy stuff on it.

the 24-inch cinema display is the best most underrated product you've ever released.

X2
ledzeppelin
 
the 24-inch cinema display is the best most underrated product you've ever released.
I actually went out and bought the 24" today. The clerk said "You know the 27" is coming, right?" and I said "that's exactly why I wanted to get this one before it's too late".

While 27" would be nice, the 24" matches the resolution of my MBP 17" and this saves me from a lot of pesky window resizing and workspace rearranging. Plus the graphics card is kinda weak and 1920x1200 is easier to manage than 2560x1440.

It's a pricey monitor but let's not forget that it features an iSight camera, 2.1 speakers, USB hub, IPS and a power supply for MB/MBP.

On the downside, it sucks that there are only 3 USB ports on the hub (what is it with Apple and odd numbers of USB ports? The old Mac Mini had 5...) even on the 27", and the fixed connector cable is a bit daft. It happens to be just what I need for my MBP, but why force Mac Pro users to have a useless MagSafe connector dangling on the back of the computer? The cable is pretty damn short for a Mac Pro, too. It should come with two detachable cables, a long one with USB and Mini DisplayPort connector only, and a shorter one with all three connectors.

Also, why doesn't it automatically dim when you haven't used the computer for a while, like the iMac and MBP displays do?
 
I never said or intimated for a moment Apple reads everything here.

Why would they bother with the fanboi accolade nonesense? They have the bottom line bubble to tell them how well they're doing.

That said and done, I am LOVING THIS NEW DELL 30" once I calibrated it with my Spyder. Now it looks BETTER than the mac display.

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Interesting - my Dell 3008 broke twice. First dead pixels, the replacement went out the day it arrived (was a refurbished one for a new monitor on top of it). Never again.
 
Interesting - my Dell 3008 broke twice. First dead pixels, the replacement went out the day it arrived (was a refurbished one for a new monitor on top of it). Never again.
I've had 6 or 7 Dell monitors over the years and all of them worked splendidly. If we start basing opinions of a manufacturer on a single lemon, I guess I should never buy a Mac again since my iMac has been in for repairs three times... nevermind the fact that my two other Macs work flawlessly.
 
Seriously, does anyone understand why Apple is pushing glossy and why many "consumers" prefer it? It isn't just Apple doing this either. The new 27" would be a competitive monitor if it had antiglare. Frustrating.

Couldn't be simpler. Most consumers live in houses with tiny windows either built before 1960 (when Frank Lloyd Wright modernism really took hold) or styles slavishly copying the crappy pre-modern designs. Right now the big fad is 1910 pre-Wright "arts & crafts" bungalows. With tiny windows, often on only one wall, it's easy to not be distracted by window light. Most consumers who live like that can easily shift the screen.

Most professionals, on the other hand, work in glass walled office buildings or post-1950 modern houses with glass walls. Light is abundant is so are reflections. Most pros HATE glossy screens with a passion, and have a valid reason.

Are consumers stupid? No, just ignorant of the needs of pros and people who really do live in glass houses and work in glass offices.

Does a glossy screen LOOK cooler? Sure, anything shiny LOOKS cooler.


Interesting - my Dell 3008 broke twice. First dead pixels, the replacement went out the day it arrived (was a refurbished one for a new monitor on top of it). Never again.

First mistake: Buying refurbished. Second mistake: Thinking that one bad anecdote about Dell on here is going to make up for the THOUSANDS of APPLE CINEMA DISPLAY PROBLEM POSTS on Apple's own website.


I've had 6 or 7 Dell monitors over the years and all of them worked splendidly. If we start basing opinions of a manufacturer on a single lemon, I guess I should never buy a Mac again since my iMac has been in for repairs three times... nevermind the fact that my two other Macs work flawlessly.

Just base it on the problems on the Mac forums on Apple's own website, and no one would ever buy a Mac again.


Don't work right out of the box? I'd like to know what you mean.

Ah. The first guy on the planet that's never heard of the iPhone debacle.

Welcome to earth, friend!!



I don't understand where you got the impression that iOS was supposed to have the same function of a Mac Pro.

Perhaps it's been all those fanbois jumping on me with "You can edit a video with it" baloney. Maybe.




Apple's argument is that most people don't need that amount of power Mac Pro offers, it is basically an engineering and video production workstation now. Heck, some 3D modeling classes are being taught using iMacs. iPad is like a Star Trek PADD, where the Mac Pro would be the ship's main computer.

Yes, and woe to the ship whose shields are down because Steve "Scotty" Jobs, in paying more attention to the captain's clipboard, thought the shields didn't need attending to.

"I canna change the laws of physics, Captain!" as the ship goes into a million pieces. But hey... that was SOME clipboard, wasn't it?


Wow, someone's seeing what they want to see. Apple's computer growth has shown no signs of abating, they beat their record every quarter, and usually sell at least 30% more machines than the same time last year.

iCrap BUBBLE.

Whatever investment you have, maybe it's best you sell it off to make your point. I hope you mean stock because electronics and software aren't investments, anyone that got that impression is wrong.

When YOU have over high five figures socked into Apple hardware and software as I do, and the software would have to be switched over to Windows if I change platforms completely, talk to me.

Until then.

Since when do you have a line of communication with Steve Jobs?

Since after all the problems with Tiger (including having to turn off spotlight for optimum audio and video performance) and Leopard early adopters, I'm the only one on here and on the Apple boards with a record of almost a hundred posts asking for a streamlined AND WELL BETA-TESTED OS instead of one with "wow" new features that only got in the way of performance.

Oh look... it's snowing.

Two years later, your alleged iceberg still hasn't hit. Ever consider that it's moved on and melted?

FULL SPEED AHEAD, CAPTAIN SMITH!! ALL CLEAR!!

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I've had 6 or 7 Dell monitors over the years and all of them worked splendidly. If we start basing opinions of a manufacturer on a single lemon, I guess I should never buy a Mac again since my iMac has been in for repairs three times... nevermind the fact that my two other Macs work flawlessly.

What would you do if you had two lemons in a row? The first one (new) replaced not by another new but a refurbished one that craps out within 5 hours. Give that company again your trust? I would not - and did not. No Dell for me.
 
First mistake: Buying refurbished. Second mistake: Thinking that one bad anecdote about Dell on here is going to make up for the THOUSANDS of APPLE CINEMA DISPLAY PROBLEM POSTS on Apple's own website.

First: I bought a brand new one. Dell replaced it in its generosity with a refurbished one, which I only realized 5 hours later when that one went down the drain. I have an ACD 23 inch since 5 years with no problem what so ever, had another one in the office. So, I agree with you only on one thing, that it is anecdotal circumstantial experience. Mine is very bad for the Dell and good for the ACD
 
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