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You are by far the biggest cry baby I have ever seen on these forums. You really need to man up and stop whining. Uneducated? You have no idea who you are talking to. You need a lesson in logic and reason. Go sell your computer and delete your macrumors account. You shouldn't even be online. Go buy a box of tissues and a dress.

hahaha fuunnnny
 
Yes but with clever programing you can visually remove the issue the. It will all lie back on AT&T for already having mad droped calls. Apple is getting thousands of emails a day in regards to this issue they need to give us something. So they make it seem as if it was something simple, like I said if it's not hardware then why with a case one does it not drop signal? Because your fingers Cary electrical signals within them and it's causing the antennas to cross frequencies. I dorm believe apple. They lie all day. Jobs was quoted as saying it isn't even an issue and he has no idea of why customers are talkin about.....


This is what I have been saying, they are masking it (maybe) and pushing it back to att.. this is not a software issue - period. Attenuation of 19db vs 1.9 of the 3gs isn't software... unless it's systemic shutdown if the phone thinks it has no bars - which they specifically didn't mention - they said it was cosmetic.
 
Wha...wait!, Are you being serious?

Yes deadly serious. I used to repair radio equipment including analogue mobile phones for Vodafone in the UK and later on early digital mobile phones, but this is pretty basic antenna tuning knowledge
 
It's not spamming in simple logic it's not fanboyism or trolling or any other geek term. It's just simple logic if you buy a faulty item of any kindnthen return it, stop crying and return it. Some of us are really enjoying our phones and the crying is annoying. Return it get a droid.

In this thread you have posted "return it" how many times? That's spamming. It's also against forum rules. You aren't adding anything new to the conversation. You just like to use your "witty" retort.

Who's crying? I'm not. My phone is USABLE. Doesn't mean there's no issue. I have a case on it. I'm keeping mine. But just because it works under certain circumstances and/or I can live with the shortcomings doesn't mean there isn't an inherent problem.
 
If Apple says people aren't happy they can return it and people aren't happy with it - why should they pay .01 let alone 10 percent?

Sorry - spam the board as much as you want with "return it" (something I've alerted the moderators to) - but no one but Apple should be paying for their mistake.

People returning their phones should get 100 percent of what they paid. Why should Apple (ATT is kinda screwed here) get a 10% TIP?

Why sue it's a phone what the hell is with all this lawsuits over a phone. Get a life lawsuits are for real issues.
 
You know little about PR. As someone who's been in the industry for over 20 years - let me assure you. There IS such a thing as negative press. You don't want customers or potential customers BADMOUTHING you.

See how quickly Apple's PR made sure that the email supposedly from Steve was immediately debunked?

Well, obviously they will fight back. I never said I am a PR specialist. And I was talking about something called advertizing... And it's huge
 
Funny... Standing in the same room as my Microcell, I go from full bars down to "Searching" in 15 seconds...

Made an appointment at 4:10 today exchange my iPhone. The reception is an issue, and my proximity sensor is screwed up. Now I'm scared I might get a phone with yellow screen spots, and a bad camera on top of my two issues...
 
Forget the contract - that applies to a working phone

Because you signed a contract that says there is a 10% restocking fee.

That contract applies to a phone that is fit for purpose. Any phone that has dropping calls and lost wifi connection issues fails to qualify as such. There is a breach of terms on the seller's part.

I'd recommend everybody to ask the resellers to put their reason for refusal to issue a full refund into writing.
 
Cross country

I just went from the west coast to the east constantly going from cities to rural areas in and out of 3G,edge,the o(whatever that is) and sometimes just bars and my iPhone 4 never once dropped a call and when I was in 3G data was faster then ever. And btw I was in and near San Fransisco as well. Guess I lucked out my signal quality has been better then good far better then my 3G
 
In this thread you have posted "return it" how many times? That's spamming. It's also against forum rules. You aren't adding anything new to the conversation. You just like to use your "witty" retort.

Who's crying? I'm not. My phone is USABLE. Doesn't mean there's no issue. I have a case on it. I'm keeping mine. But just because it works under certain circumstances and/or I can live with the shortcomings doesn't mean there isn't an inherent problem.

Have you read the responses they all say the same thing. Return is the only smart thing that anyone has said. Your complaining about a
Phone that you are keeping how dumb is that?
 
Just tried the following 'deathgrip' tests:

GSM = no loss
GSM + BT = no loss
GSM + BT + WiFi = no loss

So for you this isn't really a problem?
(I have no opinion on this yet)

OR is there loss when it is only GSM and WiFi on? (no BT)
 
Why sue it's a phone what the hell is with all this lawsuits over a phone. Get a life lawsuits are for real issues.

Do you have a reading comprehension issue? Where - ever - have I said the word SUE or referenced any form of litigation.

Perhaps you meant to reply to someone else. Or perhaps you just want to start throwing random comments in to have a straw man discussion.
 
Apple has officially turned into lying and conniving pieces of *****. Luckily news outlets are onto their lying and are reporting that Apple's claimed fix is not really a fix. The phone was poorly designed from an antenna standpoint. I implore people to continue posting videos and on websites to keep this issue at the forefront. Apple is refusing to admit what is really wrong and no company should be allowed to get away with it.
 

"To start with, gripping almost any mobile phone in certain ways will reduce its reception by 1 or more bars. This is true of iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS, as well as many Droid, Nokia and RIM phones. But some users have reported that iPhone 4 can drop 4 or 5 bars when tightly held in a way which covers the black strip in the lower left corner of the metal band. This is a far bigger drop than normal, and as a result some have accused the iPhone 4 of having a faulty antenna design."

The signal drop is a hardware issue. The sofware issue is the indication of how much signal is dropping. Apple are fixing the indicator so that when it drops it'll be one or two bars not four or five.
 
I have never had any problems at all with the signal or dropped bars. I bet over half of the people on this site who complain don't even have an iPhone 4.
 
I bought a car recently, and spent a lot of money on it.

When I started to drive it regularly, I heard a "popping" noise every now and then coming from the dashboard. When I contacted the dealer, turns out there was an "known" issue with something expanding inside the dash, which would then make a popping noise when pressure was released. Obviously I was upset, so I brought it back, they fixed the issue as best they could, however still to this day every now and then, certain parts of the dash will "creak" or slightly pop when I touch them. It's a lot better, but not completely alleviated.

To avoid this problem, I now simply try not to touch those area's of the dash. Is it ideal? No, but I like the car a lot overall so I decided to keep it. Bringing cars back is very hard to do too, so even if I didn't like it, I'd most likely be screwed into keeping it.

The point? With this iPhone antenna issue you CAN bring the phone back, or you can adjust how you use it if you like the phone a lot. Simple, and non stressful in the grand scheme of things.
 
I don't really see how it can just be a misrepresentation of the signal strength if people are reporting dropped calls and data grinding to a halt.

Why? You never get dropped calls with other phones?

I think, and i could be wrong:
1-Only few iPhones 4 have a reception problem
2-The rest is paranoia as always
3-Reception is better than 3GS with serves me very well already.
 
You know little about PR. As someone who's been in the industry for over 20 years - let me assure you. There IS such a thing as negative press. You don't want customers or potential customers BADMOUTHING you.

See how quickly Apple's PR made sure that the email supposedly from Steve was immediately debunked?
+1 on that answer. I wanted to type but was bored...
 
I bought a car recently, and spent a lot of money on it.

When I started to drive it regularly, I heard a "popping" noise every now and then coming from the dashboard. When I contacted the dealer, turns out there was an "known" issue with something expanding inside the dash, which would then make a popping noise when pressure was released. Obviously I was upset, so I brought it back, they fixed the issue as best they could, however still to this day every now and then, certain parts of the dash will "creak" or slightly pop when I touch them. It's a lot better, but not completely alleviated.

To avoid this problem, I now simply try not to touch those area's of the dash. Is it ideal? No, but I like the car a lot overall so I decided to keep it. Bringing cars back is very hard to do too, so even if I didn't like it, I'd most likely be screwed into keeping it.

The point? With this iPhone antenna issue you CAN bring the phone back, or you can adjust how you use it if you like the phone a lot. Simple, and non stressful in the grand scheme of things.

The point is that you bought a defective car and decided to not grow a pair and take a stand. You are openly admitting to the fact that you just bent over and took it.
 
Then, don't return the phone.
The phone is fine as it is. You don't even need a case.


By the way guys, did it ever occurred to you that all this publicity good or bad it doesn't matter will eventually skyrocket i4 sales?
Apple has managed something that other companies would die for:
Everyone is talking iphone 4. Free world domination publicity...

So, if you're now advocating that returning the phone is not a good option for some people, you should be equally pro-active telling people giving that advice that it's poor advice.
 
Have you read the responses they all say the same thing. Return is the only smart thing that anyone has said. Your complaining about a
Phone that you are keeping how dumb is that?

I'm discussing the press release. I'm discussing the solution. That's what this thread is about. Where have I said anything remotely about being pissed off about my phone and it's issues or that I wanted to return it.

Clearly I AM reading responses - sadly it's all to evident that you're not. You're much happier just posting the same thing over and over.
 
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