Apple on iPhone Battery Locking Issue: We Want to Make Sure Battery Replacement is Done Properly

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    Last week, iPhone repair site iFixit highlighted a new iPhone feature described as a "dormant software lock" designed to prevent customers who get unauthorized battery repairs from seeing the battery health of their devices.

    On an iPhone XS, XS Max, or iPhone XR, getting a repair from a non-Apple authorized source results in a message that says "Unable to verify this iPhone has a genuine battery," with the iPhone refusing to display battery health information.

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    Apple today provided a statement on the issue to iMore, confirming that it did indeed introduce "a new feature" last year that brings up the aforementioned message when a non-authorized battery repair is made, with the aim of protecting customers from "damaged, poor quality, or used batteries."
    On an iPhone XR, XS, or XS Max that has a battery replaced outside of an Apple Store or an Apple Authorized Service Provider, the iPhone will simply read "Service" and will provide the messaging about a battery that can't be verified.

    The battery health feature that lets customers see the health of their batteries is blocked and not available, with no measurement of maximum capacity or peak performance capacity.

    iFixit discovered that this message pops up regardless of the battery being used. An unauthorized repair from a shop using a genuine Apple battery from another iPhone displays the warning message just as a third-party non-Apple battery does.

    According to Apple, the notification about the non-genuine battery does not affect a customer's ability to use the phone after the repair, but it is of course going to make customers wary of third-party repair shops that are not authorized by Apple.

    The only way to avoid the messaging when getting a battery replacement on an iPhone XS, XS Max, XR (and presumably future iPhones) is to get that repair done through Apple. Apple charges $69 for an out-of-warranty replacement battery in its newest iPhones, which is more expensive than many third-party repair shops.

    Repairs are free with AppleCare+ and when iPhones are under the one-year standard warranty, but as these iPhones age and are no longer covered, customers will need to shell out more money for an Apple-certified repair or live with a non-functioning battery health feature.


    Research from YouTube channel The Art of Repair suggests that Apple's newest iPhones use a Texas Instruments microcontroller on the battery, which is designed to authenticate the battery.

    Repairs from Apple and Apple Authorized Service Providers likely use Apple's proprietary RepairCal diagnostics software to reset the "Service" status when doing a battery replacement, something that can't be replicated by non-Apple repair shops without the required equipment.

    Article Link: Apple on iPhone Battery Locking Issue: We Want to Make Sure Battery Replacement is Done Properly
     
  2. JPack macrumors 601

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    "We want to make sure we are remunerated correctly."

    Seriously, the battery warning should not pop up with a genuine OEM battery salvaged from another iPhone.
     
  3. nerdAFK macrumors 6502

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    Full of BS!
    Replacing battery is NOT HARD AT ALL!
    So Apple basically thinks everyone is stupid enough to not be capable of doing a very easy thing.
    How dare you
     
  4. Slippery Gimp macrumors regular

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    As opposed to the ones they use which get recalled.
     
  5. Wilson1313 macrumors member

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    Ahhh, yes, replace the battery "properly". Well that "properly" was about to cost me $750 to replace a bulging battery in my 13" Macbook Pro from 2015 that otherwise was working fine. #RighttoRepair
     
  6. Hieveryone macrumors 68040

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    Maybe they want us to be secure. Maybe they want more profits. Maybe they want to make more profits by ensuring we'll be secure.
     
  7. ScreenSavers macrumors 6502a

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    This is such nonsense and so dissapointing. Like battery replacement is hard? Give it another year or two and we won't be able to replace broken screens either. I guess they've already sort of done it by disableing True Tone regardless.

    Starting with Touch ID on the 5S... getting worse and worse.
     
  8. mattster16 macrumors 6502a

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    Apple doesn't want to report a battery health metric of a battery for which they don't know the exact specs and/or quality. Makes perfect sense to me. That being said, is there a technical reason the phone can't identify a genuine battery on its own without relying on a service status 'reset' using proprietary software?
     
  9. robjulo macrumors 65816

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    Lol....”a new feature”.

    The arrogance is beyond reproach.
     
  10. jontech macrumors 6502

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    What of the countless unscrupulous dealers and repairs shops who put subpar wares in your device?
     
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    Sure it can. MacBooks have been doing it for years. It's a basic calculation of the cycle cound and how long it takes to drain to calculate the maximum number if MAh the battery can hold.
     
  12. VulchR macrumors 68020

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    Seems like a very user-vindictive policy. Shame on Apple. My nearest authorised Apple Centre is more than an hour away. I replaced the battery on my iPhone 4S and funnily enough it didn't explode or have 'performance issues'.
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    So.... Apple components are perfect then. My kid has a MacBook that suggests not.
     
  13. NY Guitarist macrumors 65816

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    I see a class action lawsuit in the making here. It seems like Apple is using a scare tactic to reduce competition.

    A replacement battery doesn't automatically mean the phone needs 'service'.

    Unless there is an obvious and verifiable service issue, battery status should indicate nothing more than the battery may not be an Apple factory replacement.
     
  14. JPack macrumors 601

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    Except a genuine OEM battery salvaged from another iPhone presents the same warning.
     
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    Only "quality" batteries are allowed in our Apple products. Like the iPhone 6S and the 2015 MacBook Pros.
     
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    Or Apple is being greedy. I mean it can't be impossible to replace the battery, otherwise their own "Geniuses" would flop as well. All about $$$
     
  17. jona2125 macrumors 6502a

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    That's the problem, if the part is not directly sourced from Apple or it's authorized providers, it is considered counterfeit. Even if you go to an Apple store, buy a brand new iPhone and take the battery out and put it in a different phone, that battery is now mind-numbingly not considered genuine now.
     
  18. Motawa macrumors 6502

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    Does this mean that it cant use high performance mode?
     
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    Why? What reason could there be to take a battery from one iPhone and install it into another iPhone?

    There is none. Except that the donor iPhone is a stolen iPhone being salvaged for parts. This identifies such a practice.
     
  21. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    That’s not what Apple is saying at all, if you want to replace your own battery, then by all means, do so. But some prefer Apple to take initiative for the battery replacement and warranty their work.

    For the record, what’s ‘easy’ for you may not be easy for someone else, for those who don’t have the basic knowledge or tools to replace the battery. Again, it’s a ‘safe bet’ to allow Apple to make the replacement given the circumstances.
     
  22. jwzimm macrumors member

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    Does that battery have the ability to report the number of cycles on it? If not it is the same problem. The battery health is determined based on several factors, including current cycle count. If the phone does not know the cycle count on the replacement battery, it cannot accurately assess the health of that battery.

    As stated in the article and release, the phone will work perfectly fine. The only effect is that the health status reporting function will be disabled as Apple is not able to properly assess battery health. Seems like a reasonable approach to me. Rather than reporting potentially false data, do not report anything.
     
  23. realtuner macrumors 65816

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    So? Swapping a genuine OEM transmission from one BMW to another identical BMW not only presents a warning, but the vehicle won’t even drive.
     
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