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Sack the megapixels.

I want some decent lens!

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People just don't get it. All MP lets you do is large prints. I'd take a 1MB camera with a good lens over a 10MP camera with a crummy fixed lens.
 
I think the sensors will be used in Apple's computers. Possibly the iPhone as well.

I would dearly love to see the iSight return. With the same (or an equally) iconic design, lower price, and USB interface. The FW iSights are still going for hundreds on eBay, proving there is still a market for a tastefully designed external webcam.
 
Can you say...

...video conferencing [hopefully on both the iPhone and iPod Touch] - as long as they put a camera on the display side of the device. What would be cool is a hidden camera that sits behind the LCD display - the cam can see you but you can't see the cam.

Now, can you say... Skype Video Chat / iChat Video?!!!!!!!!
 
Camera phone defense

Dude I've got an N95 8GB. Its got a 5mp Autofocus with LED flash. Sure indoor shots still don't come out that well but outdoors anytime and day shots look great. I took this while jogging downtown Denver(file is at 75% quality of original). Although the interface is nowhere near the iPhones' I have really enjoyed these features in addition to Apple.

WiFi Hot spot using edge/utms
Bluetooth/USB Tethering
FM Radio
IR Port
Two cameras both capable of live streaming to the web on 3G or WiFi
Flash camera with 30fps video auto focus, and stereo mic
BT Keyboard and and dialing support
Awesome battery life

The only problem is the N-Series will never come to full fruition in the US. in my opinion this is due to the fact that this phone can do too many things for free. Take a look at an N97.

The quality of most camera phones I've used recently (Nokia N73 and iPhone 3G) remains poor at best.

The photos are so grainy they're practically useless, except for 'emergency' use.

If camera phones start achieving the quality of entry level P&S cameras, I'll care to listen... IF it EVER happens due to size and energy constraints.

Until then, a cell camera remains to me at least, a pretty useless feature.
 

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People just don't get it. All MP lets you do is large prints. I'd take a 1MB camera with a good lens over a 10MP camera with a crummy fixed lens.

You lens advocates really need to get some examples if you want to compel the public. Get a photo taken with a 1MP awesome lens camera and get a photo of the same thing (same lighting etc) taken with a 10MP crummy lens and let people be the judge.
 
this is quite amusing, whilst sony ericsson is gearing up to put their 12MPX idou on the market apple is putting a 3.2 sensor in their newest product... no offence apple but you should seriously catch up with the competition

Megapixel myth. Learn it, and don't buy into it...

I really don't care for the 12mp peice of rubbish optics in the Idou. I'd rather have an excellent 3.2mp lens with high-grade optics which will always take better pictures.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/08/technology/08pogue.html
 
this is quite amusing, whilst sony ericsson is gearing up to put their 12MPX idou on the market apple is putting a 3.2 sensor in their newest product... no offence apple but you should seriously catch up with the competition

Maybe apple will stack the 3.2 and 5 together to get a 16MP camera?
:p
 
I also think that Apple will use a fairly decent lense. They won't just bump the MP a small amount and call it significant upgrade.
 
maybe a new iSight? A new iSight would sure be nice. Most features on third party webcams won't work with OS X..........
 
Of course the lack of common sense around here has everyone "concluding" that 3.2 is for the iPhone and 5.0 for something unknown. Just logical right? No not at all.

Out of 9" touch Mac and an iPhone, which is the point and shoot camera? Which would actually benefit?

Pervasive mental deficiency around here. :confused:
 
The camera on the 3G is fine, it takes more than decent enough pictures. Even if megapixels are increased, it still may deliver grainy images because the sensor needs to be enlarged to support it. If that's not done, the camera may be worse. If it is done, then expect bulkier i phones with not enough reason for it. :cool:
 
Well I really can't see the camera will be the reason I upgrade my iPhone.

Even if its 5MP with a semi decent autofocus lens it wont be a patch on my P&S let alone DSLR.

I think (for myself at least) camera phones will only ever be any good for messing about with or for the odd occasion you see something and wish you had your camera with you.

You could give it 100MP but unless it has a decent lens and the sensor is a decent size (which lets face it in a phone your never going to get a very big sensor unless you increase the size of the phone) then it will never be as good as a point and shoot/SLR
 
You lens advocates really need to get some examples if you want to compel the public. Get a photo taken with a 1MP awesome lens camera and get a photo of the same thing (same lighting etc) taken with a 10MP crummy lens and let people be the judge.

This isn't something only a purist or a photography buff would see, the difference in quality is plain-as-day obvious. My cell phone camera is 2 megapixels, but the lens is tiny and there's no flash. My first digital camera was a Canon S100, which also had a 2 megapixel camera. The difference is night and day. Maybe in optimal conditions they might be comparable, but in real world usage, they're not.

It's basic physics. A phone camera lens is, what, 1/8" across? The entire glass is no more than 1/4" wide. My P&S camera is easily 2-3 times bigger, and that means 4-9 times more light (surface area to collect light increases exponentially with the width). And a DSLR lens area is even larger. You simply cannot get the same quality photo with a fraction of the light, even with all other factors being equal.
 
5mp iProd?
I'm hoping some sort of multi touch tablet that has a stylus for note taking in class.

As for the iPhone:
Still hoping for a verizon capable device and preferably a physical qwerty keyboard. They would have to make the phone different than the current iPhone in order to not violate the contract with AT&T anyways, and I've grown accustom to the keyboards on my last phones. I know there are many against a physical keyboard, but I'm sure a lot of current Verizon users would agree.
 
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Of course the lack of common sense around here has everyone "concluding" that 3.2 is for the iPhone and 5.0 for something unknown. Just logical right? No not at all.

Out of 9" touch Mac and an iPhone, which is the point and shoot camera? Which would actually benefit?

Pervasive mental deficiency around here. :confused:

... And two of us...
 
Video chat is absolutely, positively worthless. To say that 5% of users would use it regularly is giving it too much credit.

Agreed. Can you imagine trying to videochat with someone that is holding the phone in their hand? Even with image stabilization the picture would jump around so much that it would be useless. You could put the phone on a stand, but that would even further limit the number of people that would use the feature. It wouldn't be anything more than a novelty.
 
Perhaps one camera is forward facing, the other backwards, for video chats and such? Too much hope there maybe? I'm not too fussed on video chats anyway.

No, other phones have front and back mounted cameras but they're the same photocells (what Apple is ordering in this news story), with two lenses (one on front, one on back) and a mirror switch system, to save money.
 
Why can't the 3.2 be for the Macs (iSight) and the 5 for the iPhone/Touch?

Do all of you think they will actually put TWO cameras in ONE phone? C'mon. The iPhone can't even capture video yet or do voice dialing...

...and you are all talking about TWO cameras?!?!?!!?

The 5MP will be for the iPhone, and the 3.2 for the new netbook. Think about it, Apple needs to keep the cost of the netbook down, and it's not for taking pictures, just audio/video conferencing.
 
I would LOVE to see this in the new iphone and it is a 3.2MP camera from the same lens maufacturer for the next-gen lens.
http://www.ovt.com/products/truefocus.php
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much thanks to kerryn over at appleinsider for this!

Would explain why they might be going with a 3.2Mpixel, if that's the only one they do it on currently (OV3632 with the OV630 dedicated image signal processor).
 

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