The iPhone takes worse photographs than most £60 PAYG phones. For it's price, the iPhones camera is MASSIVELY below par.
Anything they're doing to improve that, is well overdue.
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Apple Ordering 3.2 and 5-Megapixel Camera Sensors for iPhone and Future Product?
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The iPhone takes worse photographs than most £60 PAYG phones. For it's price, the iPhones camera is MASSIVELY below par.
Anything they're doing to improve that, is well overdue.
Honestly I think the 5 megapixel camera will be for the netbook. 3.2 megapixels is fine for a phone, 10 megapixel cameras in phones are plain retarded. Seriously you shouldn't go beyond 3.5 megapixels without optical zoom. Also the screen resolution of the iphone would be useless for 5 megapixels that why I think a 9-10" screen netbook would have a 5 megapixel camera.
And that is why when you buy a cheap camera, it is absolutely impossible to find out what the sensor size of the camera is. And the sensor size is the most important factor on any camera. For the typical cheap cameras that you get today, the optimal resolution would be about six megapixels. Anything above that, and you just increase the amount of noise and actually reduce the quality. And what do the camera manufacturers do? Build twelve megapixel cheap-ass-sensor cameras with reduced quality, and people buy them because they think more is better, and because you actually can't get anything with the lower resolution.
For once I agree with you. I couldn't care less about a 5mp image that looks like it was shot with vaseline on the lens with ISO 3200 film (for those of you that remember the film days).
I'd want a 2mp pic that's sharp, clear, and with proper color balance as well as density. At that point I could easily print a 5x7, maybe 8x10 with interpolation software like S-Spline.
Do people really print that much out anyway to need a 5mp image? I know a huge factor in camera shops like Ritz Camera going under is due to lack of people printing their photos out. They just upload to Flickr, Facebook, etc.
That would be cool, higher res camera and video capture is what I really need for my work. Videos captured by the iphone should have the ability to get emailed otherwise it is useless to me.
With everyone talking about video chat and stuff, how many of you actually use video chat on your Macbooks? I've used that function maybe 3 times in the life of my MBP. It's cool yes, but necessary? No.
There's a point, the cameras could be for the new XServes, one attached to the centre of each hard-drive, so you can watch your data spin-round
Here comes the mini-tablet!
Indeedy. And I am solely responsible for the height of my hopes on that!
why?
because its not subscribing to the megapixel myth?
a 3.2 megapixel camera with a really good quality lens is absolutely fine for a mobile phone....
its like the consumer myth of HD being on products marketing them as High Definition...when in reality the people buying them probably have an over 6MP camera already...which is....HD!
we dont need high megapixels on a phone camera....too much noise for the sensor size.
in other words you dont want the iPhone... lol
you want a phone like the iphone on Verizon,with a physical Keyboard.
Keyboard + Verizon =/= iPhone
... it may be possible but not in the near future... if you hold out for those two things ... you will be holding out for a while... at least that is my opinon.
i have to back up some of the others in here who are correct when they raise the issue of sensor sizing and the megapixel myth.
It really does annoy me when people talk about camera phones and mention '5mp' and '8mp' or whatever...they are NOT true 5 or 8mp cameras..they are simply 2 or 3mp which have been essentially scaled up poorly and lost a lot of their detail and quality.
The best camera I have seen from a phone was a 2mp one and I have seen most of the so called good ones. So if Apple put in a good quality 3.2mp sensor in to their next iphones, then they could well become the best out there.
If people want to print off phone photos (which i think is crazy but anyways) then they should upscale them with proper interpolating software and not buy a crappy 5mp camera phone that has upscaled things poorly.
It really does annoy me when people talk about camera phones and mention '5mp' and '8mp' or whatever...they are NOT true 5 or 8mp cameras..they are simply 2 or 3mp which have been essentially scaled up poorly and lost a lot of their detail and quality.
The best camera I have seen from a phone was a 2mp one and I have seen most of the so called good ones. So if Apple put in a good quality 3.2mp sensor in to their next iphones, then they could well become the best out there.
If people want to print off phone photos (which i think is crazy but anyways) then they should upscale them with proper interpolating software and not buy a crappy 5mp camera phone that has upscaled things poorly.
the lens makes such a big difference in picture quality, the mp count can only help the lens, and the pictures can only be as good as the lens. with the amount of compromises they have to make for cell cameras - does it really matter at all? yeah the pictures of you and your buddies cooking a bunch of wooden russian made ski s you found in the alley on the fire last night might look a little better, but i mean really....
There's a point, the cameras could be for the new XServes, one attached to the centre of each hard-drive, so you can watch your data spin-round
Thanks for the chuckle.If they include 3.2, which was on my wishlist, I wish they'll make it with autofocus, a flash and possibly zoom? Nowadays, there are camera phones with higher MP. Sure, sometimes it may not matter, but it would be nice nonetheless.
Also, people are saying, (even friends of mine) that a camera isn't necessary for a phone. And I say "Televesion isn't necessary for you!" But the iPhone is already badass, I just wouldn't want to carry a separate camera, and an MP3 player, and a video camera. Why have all those separately, when you can have the iPhone! =D
Also, people are saying, (even friends of mine) that a camera isn't necessary for a phone. And I say "Televesion isn't necessary for you!" But the iPhone is already badass, I just wouldn't want to carry a separate camera, and an MP3 player, and a video camera. Why have all those separately, when you can have the iPhone! =D
+1 While I don't mind the wretchedness for those times when I'm not carrying a camera around, I want a real camera for things like concerts, etc.
Case in point: when I was at the R.E.M. concert, I had a devil of a time getting decent shots of Mike and Peter.
What's worse is that I was standing so close to the stage. Bottom line: it's nice if the iPhone gets a 3.5 or 5 MP camera, but it wouldn't be worth upgrading for.
Not saying that this rumor isn't feasible, but this is from DigiTimes. You know the people who said there will be quad-core iMacs or that Apple was making AMD notebooks in 2006 or there'll be a 15" MacBook in 2007. Pffft. Yeah DigiTimes.
I didn't buy the 1st gen iPhone since I had just bought myself a brand new Sony Ericsson phone.
One day I couldn't stand it anymore. I needed to experience all that touch mojo. So I bought the iPod Touch. And I love it. I love having the internet with me when I'm on the go (finding WiFi doesn't seem too hard these days). I love it for checking mails. I love it for the music and all the lovely apps.
When the 2nd gen iPhone came out I didn't really have a need for that either. My regular mobile phone + iPod Touch combo serves me well. I'm starting to feel tempted, though.
But when the 3rd gen iPhone comes out, I'll definately buy it. My mobile phone is getting old. I simply can't resist the new OS 3 + hopefully a better camera. 3.2 MP is fine with me - it's picture quality - not MPs that matter.
One day I couldn't stand it anymore. I needed to experience all that touch mojo. So I bought the iPod Touch. And I love it. I love having the internet with me when I'm on the go (finding WiFi doesn't seem too hard these days). I love it for checking mails. I love it for the music and all the lovely apps.
When the 2nd gen iPhone came out I didn't really have a need for that either. My regular mobile phone + iPod Touch combo serves me well. I'm starting to feel tempted, though.
But when the 3rd gen iPhone comes out, I'll definately buy it. My mobile phone is getting old. I simply can't resist the new OS 3 + hopefully a better camera. 3.2 MP is fine with me - it's picture quality - not MPs that matter.
Or maybe the 3.2 for the new iPhone and the 5 for???
Or hell, even 5mp for the new iPhone and the 3.2 for upcoming Cinema Displays or next years' iMac refresh?
The Apple Online Store doesn't include specs for the built in cameras, only calls them "built in iSight", but some research on their forums shows many folks pointing towards only 1.3mp for all the built in iSights. Would 3.2mp be the next bump? Why would they go from 1.3 to 5 on a new netbook/tablet, that we don't even know is coming out?
It seems the 3.2 could be a logical bump for both the iPhone and their computer lineup with built in iSight... so that begs the question, what's the 5mp lens for? They could throw the 5 in the iPhone just to market it as a 5mp camera to get folks jazzed up, even though without including focus it won't really mean anything, just larger, potentially fuzzy pictures if you email them to someone. LOL.