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Ok, truly curious here.
What do you use? Cash?
I work with a guy who uses cash for everything and he literally carries thousands of dollars with him.
I always joke that I hope I'm near him when he gets in an accident.
Just doesn't seem worth the hassle of loss or theft.
And everything I've read about debit cards says that they're absolutely worthless when it comes to buyer protection so you may as well just use cash.

Cash and debit. Haven't had trouble so far...
 
I cannot fault German consumers for having the right mentality towards their finance choices. I think it's brilliant and the rest of the world should follow that example. A debt is a debt whether a 0% loan or a credit card purchase with a great rate.

first time i saw commercials on american tv was rather interesting for me to see. things like "get the latest whatever car for only 100$ a month

*tiny footprint at the end"

blew my mind why anyone would go far things like that.

i remember as a teen i forgot to put my money on the bank account and got a letter in the mail from my phone company cuz they couldnt charge me for the bill of 19€. when my mum found out world war 3 broke out at home.
 
... or the vendors are that type of cheap person who thinks they are saving a penny by throwing away a dollar. two sides to every argument.

I don't know anyone who ONLY has an AMEX card - the retailer ain't missing out on anything. AMEX has the highest point-of-sales fees in the biz THAT's why retailers shy away from them.

Credit Card usage is everywhere in Europe, but if YOU go, don't count on many places taking AMEX.
 
From Daily Tech: "It looks as though Apple has signed up the “big three” when it comes to payment processors for its new mobile payments system. Jason Del Rey of Re/code earlier today reported that Apple has signed up American Express, while a follow-up report from Bloomberg said that Apple also managed to snag both Visa and MasterCard."

Maybe MacRumours should update the article.
 
I don't know anyone who ONLY has an AMEX card - the retailer ain't missing out on anything. AMEX has the highest point-of-sales fees in the biz THAT's why retailers shy away from them.

Credit Card usage is everywhere in Europe, but if YOU go, don't count on many places taking AMEX.

and i shy away from retailers who don't accept amex... in the end they are missing out on something.
 
I have two minds on this...

Visa: You, Square, you are so small! You will do my bidding!
Apple: You, Visa, you are so small! You will do my bidding!

The funny thing would be, with a market cap of $132B, Apple just buys them.

Yea, that would be hysterical.
 
I never use a bank card. Don't want fraudsters getting access to that cash. Credit Card i'm covered, and as a bonus you get extra warranties with purchases of electronics and appliances etc.
 
Oh come on surely you knew what I meant? We are 8 days away from the apple event. iPhone 6 will no doubt go on sale alittle after. I'm not buying this one.
You didn't clearly specify anything. :)
 
Ugh I would have thought a company so large and so global as Apple would realise the stupidity of partnering with Amex.
Amex is either not accepted or attracts a massive surcharge across the large majority of the rest of the world.

For example here in Australia most vendors simply don't accept Amex, or charge a 3-5% surcharge on any purchase. Surprisingly we are MasterCard's largest contactless payments market, with almost every shop I go to having RFID/NFC terminals. And yet with such huge potential for the use of mobile payments, Apple would partner with a provider that Australia and many, many other countries deliberately avoid.
 
Occasionally I see someone post about not using credit cards, and while I applaud the concept of “not buying what you can’t afford to pay for with cash”, I wonder how you navigate around modern life and activities? Hotels? Flights? Large purchases?

Debit cards. If you have a decent income, with a large overdraft. Say one monthly salary. Having a savings account helps as well.

6. It builds your CREDIT SCORE. This enables you to get LOANS in the future. Good luck getting one, or getting one with a decent interest rate, with NO credit history.

I'm curious as to how Germans handle loans, credit scores, and online purchases if no one uses credit cards. Or were you just being sensationalist in your description of how little they are used there.

Well, the concept of "credit score" is something totally alien to a German. And the concept of entering into debt and paying it back in order to be allowed to enter into more debt is just totally bizarre. If you want a loan, you go to your bank, or you use your overdraft. And they look mostly at your income, and if there is value corresponding to the loan.
 
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Apple could shake up this market in the same way PayPal and Square have by offering merchants an alternative to Visa, MasterCard and Amex with lower fees. Simply scan your iPhone to pay directly from your iTunes account and Apple charges the merchant a 1% fee for example. It wouldn't replace the current system as merchants would still have to cater for everyone but it would probably make a lot of money for Apple.

Apple wouldn't even have to charge for transactions. Visa, MasterCard etc. give you a card for free. Apple charges $600. Quite a different business model.

I have had a pretty interesting thought on that too. What if the wearable is somehow biometrically linked to the user. That way if it were stolen it would become useless. It would make mobile payments pretty secure. (Disclaimer: I am talking out of my @$$ and have no idea what the technical feasibility of such a system would be)

There are lots of possibilities. One is fingerprinting. One simple one would be that your phone must be nearby. So a thief would have to steal both the phone and the watch. One possibilty would be to check what you are paying for and apply different rules. Thieves would likely buy items that are easy to sell. So buying eggs + tomatoes = low security, buying gift vouchers = extreme high security.
 
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amex was a no-brainer decision. they already have the infrastructure and systems in place because they already serve the android community thru isis wallet powered by amex serve card.
 
There are lot's of concerns when using credit card and paying by touch id. I believe Apple has security for fingerprints which will only be stored in your device, but still, if someone has my fingerprints somehow - this could end up really bad.:confused:

Seems like the possibility of stealing both your phone and fingerprints is a lot less than stealing your card number and 3 digit code from the back or a PIN number for a debit card. If done right (which Apple has a good track record of doing) this will be a lot more secure than current payment systems.
 
people in Germany have yet to adopt to credit cards let alone mobile payments lolol.

credit cards to us means you buy things you cant actually afford

Shoe stores in DE take credit cards. This must say something but I know not what.
 
Debit cards. If you have a decent income, with a large overdraft. Say one monthly salary. Having a savings account helps as well.

Well, the concept of "credit score" is something totally alien to a German. And the concept of entering into debt and paying it back in order to be allowed to enter into more debt is just totally bizarre. If you want a loan, you go to your bank, or you use your overdraft. And they look mostly at your income, and if there is value corresponding to the loan.

Yeah, we covered debit cards in several previous posts. :)

It’s not all that bizarre, it’s the idea of establishing a pattern of repayment for smaller loans, before committing to a larger loan.
 
Good old AMEX, the card nobody accepts outside the US of A. Apple really are struggling these days. iTunes Radio is still unavailable in most countries, Apple Store app on iPad never made it outside the US of A. Apple Maps is pretty crap in most countries outside the US. Apple TV is pointless outside the US. Tim has to change this, people are running away from Apple at this rate. The USA are not the only market for Apple, they really are losing it. It makes me cringe how bad they are in the UK. They are a waste of time here, shockingly embarrassing!!!

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Shoe stores in DE take credit cards. This must say something but I know not what.
Just got back from a holiday in Germany, I didn't have any problems using cards.
 
first time i saw commercials on american tv was rather interesting for me to see. things like "get the latest whatever car for only 100$ a month

*tiny footprint at the end"

blew my mind why anyone would go far things like that.


Same with subsidized iphones. I actually had an epic discussion with a guy from the US who really thought that an iphone in the US only costs 100$. A lot of people really don't understand that they pay a lot more when they pay off their stuff in 24 months or that the prices for the monthly rates are including a "smartphone tax".
 
I don't have an Amex but those who has try to convince me Amex is amazing. I suspect Amex brainwash users.
 
I think you're right that the push needs to come from the banking side but I'm trying to imagine how. Many retailers purchase the card readers and many have integrated POS systems that cost a fortune to upgrade. Maybe the banks can pull card transactions off of these systems and only authorize against trusted readers.

Subsidized hardware? Just a supposition.
 
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