Our national debt, global warming, and high divorce rate has me much more worried than a fingerprint scanner.
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Apple Patent Application for Combination Fingerprint Scanner and NFC Circuitry Surfaces
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Our national debt, global warming, and high divorce rate has me much more worried than a fingerprint scanner.
To be fair though, Apple aren't planning to add all those things in the home button of the iPhone. Well except maybe the electricity, but not directly to the user's finger, one hopes. Although that could be a great security feature worth patenting!
Ironically, biometrics are probably your best defense from intrusion. The government can have your password/passcode in 5 minutes just by calling Apple/Google/Verizon/AT&T/etc, but biometrics requires that they physically obtain your device in order to get into it. Furthermore, biometrics aren't used for anything that can be exploited presently. A thief can't just email your bank a copy of your thumbprint and clear out your account...no institution would ever accept anything other than you being physically present to enter your print. I often wonder if the people warning us about the perils of the fingerprint scanner actually believe what they say, or merely want the rest of us to believe it. Fact of the matter is, even if the government could figure out a way to "use" your prints it would mean that they wouldn't even need to bother as they would probably already have all the info about you that they wanted.
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LOL. Good point. Hell, if the government really wants your fingerprint and if you've ever touched a doorknob...guess what?
I can't wait till the 5S is here. Never having to remember my numerous passwords anymore (simply scan my fingerprint to log in) is worth it's weight in gold
Do you only use your iPhone? Or does your mac also have a finger print scanner? How can you just forget your passwords? What if you need to access the account on another device???
5S is gonna be a bore.
Do you only use your iPhone? Or does your mac also have a finger print scanner? How can you just forget your passwords? What if you need to access the account on another device???
5S is gonna be a bore.
What if he doesn't? What if he decides to perform all of his transactions on his iOS device for now on knowing that it has an added level of security not found on his other devices?
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Do you only use your iPhone? Or does your mac also have a finger print scanner? How can you just forget your passwords? What if you need to access the account on another device???
5S is gonna be a bore.
It would just mean he can sign into things much easier on his phone than computer.
We'll know once they announce it. the same company did both sensors, but I suspect that Apple is adding more features.
It doesn't matter unless Apple does it.
Amirite guys?
In this case, yes... yes you are.
We have a litmus test to prove you're right!
Here it is: Atrix, as you said, tried a fingerprint sensor three years ago and NOBODY followed suit. CLEARLY, it did NOT matter.
Let's see if anybody follows up 5S & adds it on as a feature in the next 3 years. If so..... clearly they WILL have made it matter.
I'm super excited about ^^^this^^^. Rumors, for the most part, neglected to even think about this part of it. There has been rumors before on how Apple would do NFC. I think this is brilliant. Not just NFC payments, but NFC payments with biometric security. Brilliant!
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And I did forget that the Atrix had it too. So honestly, they had a brilliant idea. But for some reason, they didn't put the force behind it necessary to make this matter. Let's hope Apple does. I don't care who does it, I just want it to happen!
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Okay, okay. I do care. Because if Android made this happen (any manufacturer) and I own an iPhone that can't do it, then I'd still be screwed. I'm happy in the Apple ecosystem and wouldn't switch phones
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I'm super excited about ^^^this^^^. Rumors, for the most part, neglected to even think about this part of it. There has been rumors before on how Apple would do NFC. I think this is brilliant. Not just NFC payments, but NFC payments with biometric security. Brilliant!
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And I did forget that the Atrix had it too. So honestly, they had a brilliant idea. But for some reason, they didn't put the force behind it necessary to make this matter. Let's hope Apple does. I don't care who does it, I just want it to happen!
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Okay, okay. I do care. Because if Android made this happen (any manufacturer) and I own an iPhone that can't do it, then I'd still be screwed. I'm happy in the Apple ecosystem and wouldn't switch phones
I never owned an Atrix, but I know why it failed to take off. For one, Android never officially supported biometrics when the phone launched. Motorola built their own APIs for it, and this limited it to just unlocking your device and nothing else.
It was also physically designed poorly. The cover would peel off if you used it consistently.
NFC circuits are much too large to house in a home button alone because of the frequencies they use. That's why the patent discusses coils being embedded in the bezel or ear piece. If you look at android smartphones, their NFC circuits tend to be housed over the battery in the rear of the device.
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Also, it's difficult to route them because you risk interfering with the cellular, wifi and Bluetooth antennas depending upon placement, just like metal enclosure are difficult.
The reason the patent discusses common routing is because they would both likely need to be routed through some ARM TrustZone IP block for obvious security reasons.
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Also, it's difficult to route them because you risk interfering with the cellular, wifi and Bluetooth antennas depending upon placement, just like metal enclosure are difficult.
The reason the patent discusses common routing is because they would both likely need to be routed through some ARM TrustZone IP block for obvious security reasons.
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I've gotta ask Mr. Jenkins, what is your career? Seems like you have a ton of nitty gritty technical information that most others don't.
There are plenty of people here that exceed my technical knowledge (I am an EE), but simply aren't as motivated to post on the topics. It is very kind of you to say so.
Phandroids in the internet and real life are the most frightening, lol jk, I just can't resist.
I'm super excited about ^^^this^^^. Rumors, for the most part, neglected to even think about this part of it. There has been rumors before on how Apple would do NFC. I think this is brilliant. Not just NFC payments, but NFC payments with biometric security. Brilliant!
Edit:
And I did forget that the Atrix had it too. So honestly, they had a brilliant idea. But for some reason, they didn't put the force behind it necessary to make this matter. Let's hope Apple does. I don't care who does it, I just want it to happen!
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Okay, okay. I do care. Because if Android made this happen (any manufacturer) and I own an iPhone that can't do it, then I'd still be screwed. I'm happy in the Apple ecosystem and wouldn't switch phones
Hear, hear.
i personally would have preferred a wireless charging than an NFC. then again, wireless charging tech is still a long way to go...
i personally would have preferred a wireless charging than an NFC. then again, wireless charging tech is still a long way to go...
I use a phone for work with wireless charging. It's nifty, but not really life changing. Besides, I prefer to dock my phones on my nightstand next to my bed.
Really. People still are not able to use the proper word even after getting an education.
Care to elaborate? What about fingerprint sensor worries you? After all, just like Siri... I would assume there would be an option not to use it if you are to worried about it.