Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Patent Offers Sketch of Possible Notch Implementation in New MacBook Pros
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
I know its a bit of a first world problem, but these MBP‘s will not be cheap, at least £2,500 for the 16” version, so people have a right to to be concerned. Yes one can hook up to an external display, but isnt that what the Mac mini is for?
You will still have a 16:10 screen below it, just like you have now. This actually gives you more space all up.
It’s full screen because that’s not screen. Not trying to be argumentative but I’m not sure why it’s not clear. There is a “full-screen” below the notch. The area aside the notch is bonus screen.
Weird. I check both “Dock & Menu Bar” and Accessibility and couldn’t find it. Care to share where is it?
I suspect they will introduce the Pro with the notch fully black, talk about the “gorgeous” retina 16-10 display, show some content. Then, after everyone is comfortable with that, Boom! bonus content area on both sides of this really awesome (best ever) camera/mic combo.
Not sure what it will be called. Magic-Bar? Liquid Notch?
Not sure what it will be called. Magic-Bar? Liquid Notch?
And that's something I just didn't "get" at first when I saw this on Twitter - possibly because of the janky graphics used. Now its been explained as to how it could work, with it effectively being "bonus" screen, I have no problem with it.
My only disappointment will be if it doesn't also offer FaceID, but I know I'm probably in the minority with that.
I also hope for Face ID. I believe it’s possible it will exist here even without the flood illumination. The phone has to use the illumination to operate in all conditions, even pitch blackness. Perhaps they are planning to just use normal, ambient light here for Face ID as the computer will typically be used in more reasonable conditions. For when that’s not possible, you have Touch ID and Apple Watch unlocking as backup.
People on here seem to have it twisted. Full screen apps will obviously still be full screen … there will be simply the option to have additional information shown on either side of the notch but once you enter full screen mode (e. g. watching a movie) it will simply turn black, basically leaving you with a „digital bezel“. The notch on the iPhone isn’t covering your content either (unless you zoom in on videos). The content, e.g. on Safari starts BELOW the notch.
Here's a quick and dirty shop of how I think they are going to implement the notch. So instead of a big top bezel that does nothing but house the webcam, they are going to use that space to free up the menu bar and provide additional information, maybe allow apps to use it. So I don't think the notch is even going to be visible, everything under the notch area stays the same, we just get one more row of info on top of the existing interface. Win-win if you ask me.
Edit: Here's a more refined idea of the implementation. The menu bar could always be black or hidden with a wallpaper vignette. In edge cases where apps have a lot of menu items, a Safari tabs approach could be used to condense the spacing between them and shorten names (...).
Edit: Here's a more refined idea of the implementation. The menu bar could always be black or hidden with a wallpaper vignette. In edge cases where apps have a lot of menu items, a Safari tabs approach could be used to condense the spacing between them and shorten names (...).
Last edited by a moderator:
Yeah, I think those renders are incorrect. This will not be what it looks like in practice.
Technically, by definition, no it will no longer be full screen. The notch on the iPhone was the most ridiculous design decision Apple ever made and brining it to mac is quite frustrating. Full screen = FULL SCREEN. Any circle or rectangle that obstructs the display from showing content takes away from that experience. Instead of working around the problem just don't CAUSE the problem in the first place. We could get a little more height in our content if they did not include the notch, or just make the bezels thicker.
Finally someone thinking out of the box. Touch Bar for sliders and dynamic content can easily be broken by a notch. "Touch Bar" content accessible via the cursor/short cuts.
What's the difference between a physically thicker bezel and a "digital bezel" though? Either way, that space would not have content in it while in "full screen". At least with a "digital bezel", it can have content other times.
the "fly on my screen" patent. I get annoyed if people touch my screen with their sticky fingers as it is. This would drive me insane.
Because it obstructs the flow of content. Something essentially blocks the flow of content when you are looking left to right. Where as a thicker bezel will NOT obstruct the flow of content as nothing will block the horizontal reading/viewing experience.
I’m certain the decision to bring the notch to the MacBook will have the exact same deleterious effect on MacBook sales that it has had on iPhone.
So there's a notch, but now there's a "faux bezel." 🙄
If this MBP was supposed to come out at WWDC back in June where was all of this notch jazz back then?
If this MBP was supposed to come out at WWDC back in June where was all of this notch jazz back then?
It is probably a fake rumor, if we're all being realistic. But, this has been a fun 48 hours or so here.